EITHER THE BEST OR THE WORST

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

LOL I admire your fandom. Seems like you are the one in denial about this bud. The tapes REALLY happend, it wasn't a myth. If those wins YEARS later somehow give you comfort or validation who am I to take that from you? Keep cheering your team bud, that's what makes sports great.

Nothing to be taken. The Pats tapes had no meaningful impact.

Now if you want a serious debate, ask how much steroids helped my beloved Red Sox win the 2004 and 2007 titles.

My answer? A LOT!

Says the Pats fan LOL

Now to part 2. Really? Do you honestly think there were more Sox then Yanks on roids that year? EVERYONE was still on roids at the time. It played no more part in their season then it did for every other team that year. I see no competitive advantage in that because they other teams had the same advantages canceling everything out. LOL how bout that? I say NO COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE for the Sox

Manny and Ortiz drove that team. Without those two in top steroid form the Sox don't get close. The Yanks weren't nearly as reliant on just two guys.

Pats are still gold, my beloved Sox? Not so much [grumble, grunmble]

Yea what about the pitching for the Yanks? Roger and Andy are the only 2 that juiced on the roster? Highly unlikely. I agree your 2 sluggers are huge but isn't Curt just as big of a factor? It was still a team effort. It's not like the Yanks didn't have STAR players also juicing at the time. Your Sox didn't cheat anymore then the Yanks, I don't believe that for 1 second.

Sadly I think the stuff had more of an impact on my beloved Sox. No way to prove it of course.

You are really confusing me here man LOL, I don't get it. It's not like major Yanks haven't also been busted with roids. It's not like the entire league didn't have the same thing going on. Everyone was cheating and this isn't an opinion it is a proven fact at this point. I personally think the Sox had zero advantage due to illegal substances compared to the rest of the league. This is coming from someone who hates both the Yanks and Sox and would much rather say FUCK THOSE CHEATERS THEY DIDN'T WIN!

In the "No surprise" department, the Fins fired their special teams coach.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5651160

What choice did they have?

marbleheadmaui wrote:

In the "No surprise" department, the Fins fired their special teams coach.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5651160

What choice did they have?

I dunno....block someone??? Fire the players who missed the blocks?

Bears have a similar issue on a different part of their team.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-pompei-film-oct5,0,3440494.column

Coaches or players? Right answer is both sometimes.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

In the "No surprise" department, the Fins fired their special teams coach.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5651160

What choice did they have?

I dunno....block someone??? Fire the players who missed the blocks?

The Fins failings were NOT physical. The wingbacks didn't know what they were doing, used the wrong technique and neither did the tackles. Technique failure is a matter of coaching.