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PostSubject: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 2:56 am

kotelnik's the frontrunner to face vic in the undercard to maidana-kahn dec. 11
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=31468
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 3:14 am

Woo. That's a nice fight. If Ortiz wins that paves re way for the Maidana rematch if he loses we see him and Paulie in the spring.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 6:46 am

Paul McCloskey Called out khan last night hehe
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 9:04 am

I had a feeling this would happen, tough challenge for Ortiz.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 9:04 am

sugarrayhatton wrote:
Paul McCloskey Called out khan last night hehe

And was met with the sound of crickets chirping.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 10:10 am

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sugarrayhatton wrote:
Paul McCloskey Called out khan last night hehe

And was met with the sound of crickets chirping.
Amir Khan is ducking Paul McCloskey.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 11:55 am

kbyte wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
sugarrayhatton wrote:
Paul McCloskey Called out khan last night hehe

And was met with the sound of crickets chirping.
Amir Khan is ducking Paul McCloskey.

LOL yeah just like he's ducking John Murray Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 11:57 am

well december and january will be big for the junior welterweight division but i really want to see that kid tim coleman again. with roger mayweather in his corner now it should be a riot.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 12:23 pm

Kotelnik UD
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 12:45 pm

Great fight. If Kotelnik wins, what next? A rematch with the Khan-Maidana loser or fight with the Bradley-Alexander loser?
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 12:48 pm

Gumby wrote:
Great fight. If Kotelnik wins, what next? A rematch with the Khan-Maidana loser or fight with the Bradley-Alexander loser?

A Maidana or Alexander rematch would make the most sense.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 1:20 pm

Kotelnik better win big or he'll get shafted like the Alexander fight.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 3:52 pm

Good fight...good match up. I don't know if Kotelnik has enough power to ward off Ortiz or make him respect him. If not, Ortiz wins a dec. I'm noticing Ortiz is waaaay more cautious in his approach now. Even against a washed up Vivian Harris he hesitated when Harris was throwing. His skills are good but he needs to be a little tougher.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 5:30 pm

Legit fight. Can Ortiz replicate what Amir Khan did? Kotelnik is a tough mofo.. decisioned Maidana and arguably beat Alexander.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 8:21 pm

Golden Boy would be making a mistake by keeping Kotelnik in the picture.

He's just too sturdy for Ortiz. Kotelnik is too persistent for Victor.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 8:49 pm

This is the type of match ups I want to see in a HBO card. Whos the underdog in this bout? it should be Ortiz, Kotelnik is as tough as they come and i could see him dominating a timid Ortiz. The again Ortiz is a real puncher, not high volume puncher like Maidana. Ortiz can change a fight with one punch and is wise with his attack selection. This can end up becoming an entertaining fight, if Ortiz grows a pair during the fight. Ortiz killer instict is in question though, he just too cautious when he has his opponent hurt (kind of like Wlad in that aspect). Ortiz could of knocked out Campbell, but decided to run for 10 rounds instead. Im think that maybe the Ortiz we may see everytime he steps up in competition.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptySun Oct 03, 2010 11:16 pm

The Quitter Ortiz by dominant UD.Kotelnik doesn't throw enough or have much pop to Keep Vic honest.The defense he has wont work like it did with Alex,Vic will punch right thru it.
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PostSubject: Re: victor ortiz vs kotelnik   victor ortiz vs kotelnik EmptyMon Oct 04, 2010 12:34 pm

type of fight Ortiz needs, a tough guy who doesnt hit hard enough, might be a good night for Ortiz

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