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 Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ?

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PostSubject: Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ?   Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ? EmptyWed Sep 15, 2010 10:06 pm

The long-awaited rematch between WBC middleweight champion Sergio Martinez and Paul "The Punisher" Williams should get finalized for November 20, according to sources who are close to the negotiations. The fight will take place in Atlantic City or Washington, D.C. HBO will televise the fight, along with the replay of Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito, which takes place on November 13. Last December Williams won a twelve round majority decision over Martinez in a fight where both boxers went down in the first round.

The contracts have not been signed but sources inidcate "there are no outstanding deal points" and "everything has been hammered out and everything has been agreed to." There will be a catch-weight of 157-pounds. Williams last appeared in the junior middleweight division and wants to return at some point to the welterweight limit of 147-pounds. Martinez's last two bouts have been at middleweight.

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PostSubject: Re: Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ?   Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ? EmptyWed Sep 15, 2010 10:09 pm

In this particular case that weight limitation is odd. I mean neither guy has ever come close to busting 160. These two can make 157 in their sleep and 154 with only a modicum of effort.
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PostSubject: Re: Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ?   Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ? EmptyWed Sep 15, 2010 10:11 pm

Williams wants it because he still has delusions of returning to 147 for a big fight.

It doesn't make any difference, it's a comfortable weight for both men.

Hopefully Sergio gets some justice for the decision in the first fight and Williams' feet-dragging since then.


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Weird decision to have it at 157lb, maybe Paul's team think the extra couple lb's will strain Sergio's 35 year old body.
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Canvas wrote:
Williams wants it because he still has delusions of returning to 147 for a big fight.

It doesn't make any difference, it's a comfortable weight for both men.

That's kinda why I don't get it.
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I supect it's gamesmanship, ego driven BS from Williams...
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PostSubject: Re: Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ?   Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ? EmptyWed Sep 15, 2010 11:44 pm

See now this is what I don't get about Paul Williams. He claims he can fight across three divisions comfortably. Asking for a catchweight of 157 to me means that Paul is uncomfortable fighting guys who are allowed to fight at the max middleweight limit. I don't have a problem with the cathweight just don't call yourself the most avoided man and claim that youre comfortable fighting across three divisions.
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It depends...it would seem like Williams doesn't want to put his title on the line. If they fight at 157, it can't be for the title.
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flapanther2001 wrote:
It depends...it would seem like Williams doesn't want to put his title on the line. If they fight at 157, it can't be for the title.

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flapanther2001 wrote:
It depends...it would seem like Williams doesn't want to put his title on the line. If they fight at 157, it can't be for the title.

Williams has no titles at the moment, and as long as it's over 154lb Martinez's middleweight title will be on the line.
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Ali_1748 wrote:
flapanther2001 wrote:
It depends...it would seem like Williams doesn't want to put his title on the line. If they fight at 157, it can't be for the title.

Williams has no titles at the moment, and as long as it's over 154lb Martinez's middleweight title will be on the line.
I thought PW had a WBO trinket?
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PostSubject: Re: Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ?   Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ? EmptyThu Sep 16, 2010 12:00 am

flapanther2001 wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
flapanther2001 wrote:
It depends...it would seem like Williams doesn't want to put his title on the line. If they fight at 157, it can't be for the title.

Williams has no titles at the moment, and as long as it's over 154lb Martinez's middleweight title will be on the line.
I thought PW had a WBO trinket?

He was stripped of that bogus interim Jr Middleweight trinket ages ago.
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I don't buy any of the "just needs to be signed" stuff anymore because of Flod/Pacboy.

Next: PW says "the negotiations never happened."
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PW's maximum weigh in amount is 157. So he doesn't want Martinez above that. Stupid to me as Martinez weighs 159 for the 160 fights and making 157 won't affect him.

Dumb.
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PostSubject: Re: Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ?   Sergio Martinez vs Paul Williams rematch to be at a catch weight ? EmptyThu Sep 16, 2010 8:40 am

Catch Weights need to be banned. Either you're challenging for the 160 title, or you're not.
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If it helps the fight get done, do it!
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I'm guessing it's coming from the Williams side. The higher they go up in weight, the more advantages Sergio has because he's stronger. And Sergio has made comments that he's used to the added weight at 160.
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If the weight is above 154, then you are challenging for the 160 title.
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fingers crossed it takes place in atlantic city so i could go
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gomez1012 wrote:
If it helps the fight get done, do it!
lmao gomez isn't that mayorga?? regardless of what anybody says the dude's hillarious.