Japan's Hasegawa moving up to featherweight

According to these two articles he could either be facing Juan Carlos Burgos or Emilio Rojas at featherweight. I'll do you guys a favor and not mention any trinkets that may or may not be involved.

I really wanted to see Hasegawa get back into the bantamweight picture because that division is excellent right now.. and at first I thought, "hmm maybe he's running out of the division because of its depth.." but then I said to myself... Guess who is at featherweight?! Lopez, Gamboa, John, Caballero.. yikes.

Talk about out of the snake pit and into the acid pool.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/sports/view/hasegawa-to-move-up-to-featherweight
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/burgos-hasegawa-nov-26-59946

He should acquit himself well at feather.

captainanddew wrote:

He should acquit himself well at feather.

I dunno. If a career 115 like Montiel can take him out? Why do you think he can take punches all the way up at 126?

marbleheadmaui wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

He should acquit himself well at feather.

I dunno. If a career 115 like Montiel can take him out? Why do you think he can take punches all the way up at 126?

i was thinking the same thing. unless he was just cutting so much weight that it totally affected him. he is a good fighter but i dont see him making much noise at feather. i hope that he proves me wrong.

Honestly, I think it's too big a jump for him...especially if he faces any of the elite at feather.

powerpuncher wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

He should acquit himself well at feather.

I dunno. If a career 115 like Montiel can take him out? Why do you think he can take punches all the way up at 126?

i was thinking the same thing. unless he was just cutting so much weight that it totally affected him. he is a good fighter but i dont see him making much noise at feather. i hope that he proves me wrong.

I'm sort of hoping maybe he's like Manny who basically starved himself then jumped right from 112 to 122 that seemed to work out ok

marbleheadmaui wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

captainanddew wrote:

He should acquit himself well at feather.

I dunno. If a career 115 like Montiel can take him out? Why do you think he can take punches all the way up at 126?

i was thinking the same thing. unless he was just cutting so much weight that it totally affected him. he is a good fighter but i dont see him making much noise at feather. i hope that he proves me wrong.

I'm sort of hoping maybe he's like Manny who basically starved himself then jumped right from 112 to 122 that seemed to work out ok

Hasegawa is only a couple years younger than Pacboy and he's been fighting at around the 118s for a decade ever since he turned pro at 19. I doubt it. He's gonna be in deep shit at feather IMO. We'll see.

Hes a tall guy, he looked way taller than Montiel, so he can probably carry the weight well. I think he should only move to as far as Super Bantom, but hes a good fighter and I think he could handle himself at feather. Hes probably not as dangerous as he was at 118, but he could still make a splash. I just wonder why the move to feather? I thought he wanted the Montiel rematch.....

This is too big of a jump IMO. Caballero should take him out.

Diego408 wrote:

Hes a tall guy, he looked way taller than Montiel, so he can probably carry the weight well. I think he should only move to as far as Super Bantom, but hes a good fighter and I think he could handle himself at feather. Hes probably not as dangerous as he was at 118, but he could still make a splash. I just wonder why the move to feather? I thought he wanted the Montiel rematch.....

The article(s) say the negotiations didn't work out right. Big surprise. WTF does that even mean nowadays anyway... What's up with Cochulito now anyway? He beat Raf. Concepcion and isn't entering Showtime's tournament.

Groundhog_Day wrote:

Diego408 wrote:

Hes a tall guy, he looked way taller than Montiel, so he can probably carry the weight well. I think he should only move to as far as Super Bantom, but hes a good fighter and I think he could handle himself at feather. Hes probably not as dangerous as he was at 118, but he could still make a splash. I just wonder why the move to feather? I thought he wanted the Montiel rematch.....

The article(s) say the negotiations didn't work out right. Big surprise. WTF does that even mean nowadays anyway... What's up with Cochulito now anyway? He beat Raf. Concepcion and isn't entering Showtime's tournament.

Says he can makebetter fights and more money without the tourney.

Hasegawa didn't posses all that much power at Bantam, so I don't see him damaging featherweights too much.

flapanther2001 wrote:

Hasegawa didn't posses all that much power at Bantam, so I don't see him damaging featherweights too much.

He won't have anything to keep a 6 foot freak like Cabby off of him.

Groundhog_Day wrote:

Diego408 wrote:

Hes a tall guy, he looked way taller than Montiel, so he can probably carry the weight well. I think he should only move to as far as Super Bantom, but hes a good fighter and I think he could handle himself at feather. Hes probably not as dangerous as he was at 118, but he could still make a splash. I just wonder why the move to feather? I thought he wanted the Montiel rematch.....

The article(s) say the negotiations didn't work out right. Big surprise. WTF does that even mean nowadays anyway... What's up with Cochulito now anyway? He beat Raf. Concepcion and isn't entering Showtime's tournament.

yeah I didnt read the article, but I dunno about Montiel right now. He was suppose to fight Mijares this month and Donaire in December, but both were scratched. Montiel atleast keeps himself active and Im pretty sure he'll have 1 more fight by the end of the year. He also said he was never given anything about fighting Nonaire. I just think it was Arums way of keeping Donaire relevant. Im pretty sure Arum didnt want both his guys in the tourney (in house money) and he was just fucking with us with that Donaire-Montiel showdown. Donaire is a huge let down, he always talks a big game and then nothing. He said he was going to fight the Hasegawa-Montiel winner but nothing. Im just thinking Arum isnt letting his boys fight because hes making enough cash having Montiel keep fighting in Mexico and Donaire in those Pony PPV BS cards.

Montiel's win over Hasegawa is still relatively fresh in my mind, so right now "stay-busy fights" from him are perfectly acceptable IMO. Not wanting to take part in what will be an epic series of fights on Showtime is not a good look though.

I agree on Donaire. The win over Darchy is getting stale. Darchinyan has actually done a lot more than Donaire since that loss IMO, and now he's getting another chance.

I just wonder who will Arum put Donaire with in that December card if Cotto vs Chavez actually goes down. Im sure if HBO is going to pay Donaire big bucks, he at least needs to fight someone relevant for once. This guy is too much protected. Hes a champion, he should be fighitng way better opposition.

Groundhog_Day wrote:

Montiel's win over Hasegawa is still relatively fresh in my mind, so right now "stay-busy fights" from him are perfectly acceptable IMO. Not wanting to take part in what will be an epic series of fights on Showtime is not a good look though.

I agree on Donaire. The win over Darchy is getting stale. Darchinyan has actually done a lot more than Donaire since that loss IMO, and now he's getting another chance.

I don't mean to be a jerk BUT THAT WAS OVER THREE FREAKING YEARS AGO! How long ago was that? That was BEFORE BHOP beat Mr. Ronald Wright and BEFORE Manny beat MAB for the second time.

Since Nonito KO'd Vic, Manny has beaten MAB, JMM, Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey.

I eman Nonito has simply wasted three prime years.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Groundhog_Day wrote:

Montiel's win over Hasegawa is still relatively fresh in my mind, so right now "stay-busy fights" from him are perfectly acceptable IMO. Not wanting to take part in what will be an epic series of fights on Showtime is not a good look though.

I agree on Donaire. The win over Darchy is getting stale. Darchinyan has actually done a lot more than Donaire since that loss IMO, and now he's getting another chance.

I don't mean to be a jerk BUT THAT WAS OVER THREE FREAKING YEARS AGO! How long ago was that? That was BEFORE BHOP beat Mr. Ronald Wright and BEFORE Manny beat MAB for the second time.

Since Nonito KO'd Vic, Manny has beaten MAB, JMM, Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey.

I eman Nonito has simply wasted three prime years.

I think Flod might have retired and unretired a couple times during that period

Groundhog_Day wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Groundhog_Day wrote:

Montiel's win over Hasegawa is still relatively fresh in my mind, so right now "stay-busy fights" from him are perfectly acceptable IMO. Not wanting to take part in what will be an epic series of fights on Showtime is not a good look though.

I agree on Donaire. The win over Darchy is getting stale. Darchinyan has actually done a lot more than Donaire since that loss IMO, and now he's getting another chance.

I don't mean to be a jerk BUT THAT WAS OVER THREE FREAKING YEARS AGO! How long ago was that? That was BEFORE BHOP beat Mr. Ronald Wright and BEFORE Manny beat MAB for the second time.

Since Nonito KO'd Vic, Manny has beaten MAB, JMM, Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey.

I eman Nonito has simply wasted three prime years.

I think Flod might have retired and unretired a couple times during that period

And heck, Floyd could have stolen dozens of cell phones in that period for all we know!

Seriously, Nonito might as well have decided not to join the military and gotten banned from the sport. Voluntarily doing effectively NOTHING with three years in your mid 20's after a big win like the one over Vic? Shocking!

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Groundhog_Day wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Groundhog_Day wrote:

Montiel's win over Hasegawa is still relatively fresh in my mind, so right now "stay-busy fights" from him are perfectly acceptable IMO. Not wanting to take part in what will be an epic series of fights on Showtime is not a good look though.

I agree on Donaire. The win over Darchy is getting stale. Darchinyan has actually done a lot more than Donaire since that loss IMO, and now he's getting another chance.

I don't mean to be a jerk BUT THAT WAS OVER THREE FREAKING YEARS AGO! How long ago was that? That was BEFORE BHOP beat Mr. Ronald Wright and BEFORE Manny beat MAB for the second time.

Since Nonito KO'd Vic, Manny has beaten MAB, JMM, Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey.

I eman Nonito has simply wasted three prime years.

I think Flod might have retired and unretired a couple times during that period

And heck, Floyd could have stolen dozens of cell phones in that period for all we know!

Seriously, Nonito might as well have decided not to join the military and gotten banned from the sport. Voluntarily doing effectively NOTHING with three years in your mid 20's after a big win like the one over Vic? Shocking!

....and "ludacrith....

I like Hasegawa a lot. So him getting back in the ring is a good thing. I'd love to see him at 118, but let's see how he handles 126.

He has a lot of boxing skills so if he can carry the weight and maintain his athleticism I think he'll be a factor wherever he ends up. Part of why Montiel dropped him is because he's been hitting like a mule these days with those hooks and he broke Hasegawa's jaw early if I recall.

This saddens me for two reasons. 1. I just don't think Hasegawa, a quality fighter, can cut it at featherweight with the beasts that lie within that division. 2. This weakens an exciting and deep bantam division. Hasegawa was in talks with Moreno which would have given us 4 fights among the top 8 bantams or at least close to it. If Hasegawa had fought Moreno and Donaire ever fought Montiel, we'd have those two winners face off and then face the winner of the bantam tournament for a lot of quality fights. Now Moreno is left without a dance partner and Donaire and Montiel will probably not fight until the end of the Mayan calendar.

Hasegawa moving up old school style Bantamweight to Featherweight.

Ali_1748 wrote:

Hasegawa moving up old school style Bantamweight to Featherweight.

And how often does that work out well for a guy who gets KO's by a 115?

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Hasegawa moving up old school style Bantamweight to Featherweight.

And how often does that work out well for a guy who gets KO's by a 115?

We'll find out when Hasegawa debuts at 126lb.

Hozumi's got the frame for the weight, and he's been fighting at Bantamweight since he turned professional so for all we know the cut could have been weakening him.