Your Featherweight Rankings

All this Featherweight talk has got me curious, whats y'alls featherweight rankings look like?

FW
1. Jose Aldo - no explanation
2. Hatsu Hioki - I believe he is the clear number 1 contender at this point.
3. Pat Curran - good all around fighter, I think will win the Bellator FW title.
4. Chad Mendes - good wrestler and physically imposing but that loss to Aldo sends him down a few pegs.
5. Tatsuya Kawajiri - 3-0 since dropping to the weight class including win over Hellboy
6. Kenny Florian - I guess this is where he is , maybe lower though
7. Joe Warren - only loss at featherweight was to a top level Bibiano Fernandes.
8. Marlon Sandro - top level fighter who can beat you in multiple ways.
9. Diego Nunes - ya some might say this is to low, but whatever
10. Erik Koch/ Bart Palaszewski - some could also say Chan Sung Jung but I think its more than likely Koch.

my b

No Poirier?

Koch, Porier, Jung and Palazweski are a conundrum for me, all 4 are kind of in the same bout and its near the bottom of the top 10 or right on the cusp

Well KenFlo is never fighting at FW again if he ever even fights again so you can get rid of him

Strauss gave Pitbull Freire a tough fight though as well.

I hate ranking FWs because of how low I want to rank Sandro vs what the universe thinks of him.

nothing wrong with that wolf

You really wanna stump some people. Ask them to rank the Flyweights.

1 Aldo
2 Hioki
3 Mendez
4 Curran
5 Sandro
6 Kawajiri
7 Freire
8 Poirier
9 Koch
10 Jung
11 Alcantara
12 Nunes
13 Warren
14 Peralta
15 Hominick
16 Takaya
17 Pearson
18 Palaszewski
19 Lamas
20 Mann

OU wrote:

You really wanna stump some people. Ask them to rank the Flyweights.

Flys haven't been a very big stage. I only ranked 5 in the past rankings based on what I've seen/read. If it isn't on UFC, SF, or Bellator then it is difficult to watch. Even the Jap shows have died down.

Farmer1906 wrote:

OU wrote:

You really wanna stump some people. Ask them to rank the Flyweights.

Flys haven't been a very big stage. I only ranked 5 in the past rankings based on what I've seen/read. If it isn't on UFC, SF, or Bellator then it is difficult to watch. Even the Jap shows have died down.

Tachi has been the home of the best flys for awhile now. That is where the UFC will go to get their talent...well if they are really looking for the best in the World.

OU wrote:

Farmer1906 wrote:

OU wrote:

You really wanna stump some people. Ask them to rank the Flyweights.

Flys haven't been a very big stage. I only ranked 5 in the past rankings based on what I've seen/read. If it isn't on UFC, SF, or Bellator then it is difficult to watch. Even the Jap shows have died down.

Tachi has been the home of the best flys for awhile now. That is where the UFC will go to get their talent...well if they are really looking for the best in the World.

Tachi had like 8 flyweight fights last year. Even if they were all different fighters (which they weren't) that means 16 fighters. Not exactly a huge talent pool. Plus you have to factor in guys coming down weight.

Farmer1906 wrote:

OU wrote:

Farmer1906 wrote:

OU wrote:

You really wanna stump some people. Ask them to rank the Flyweights.

Flys haven't been a very big stage. I only ranked 5 in the past rankings based on what I've seen/read. If it isn't on UFC, SF, or Bellator then it is difficult to watch. Even the Jap shows have died down.

Tachi has been the home of the best flys for awhile now. That is where the UFC will go to get their talent...well if they are really looking for the best in the World.

Tachi had like 8 flyweight fights last year. Even if they were all different fighters (which they weren't) that means 16 fighters. Not exactly a huge talent pool. Plus you have to factor in guys coming down weight.

Farmer, if you are interested in the fights, it is not hard at all to have seen multiple fights from the best 20 flyweights in the world.

Farmer1906 wrote:

OU wrote:

Farmer1906 wrote:

OU wrote:

You really wanna stump some people. Ask them to rank the Flyweights.

Flys haven't been a very big stage. I only ranked 5 in the past rankings based on what I've seen/read. If it isn't on UFC, SF, or Bellator then it is difficult to watch. Even the Jap shows have died down.

Tachi has been the home of the best flys for awhile now. That is where the UFC will go to get their talent...well if they are really looking for the best in the World.

Tachi had like 8 flyweight fights last year. Even if they were all different fighters (which they weren't) that means 16 fighters. Not exactly a huge talent pool. Plus you have to factor in guys coming down weight.

Creepy fought 3 times in 2011 at TPF. Da Silva fought twice(once against Creepy), Yamaguchi fought twice in TPF last year(once against Da Silva). Dustin Ortiz fought twice(once against Creepy). Useless Gomez fought 3 times. Mongoose fought 4 times(once against Creepy, once against Useless). Don't think they were all at fly but most of them. There are more. All flyweights, all fights mentioned happened under the Tachi banner in 2011.

I'm not ranking flys for a while until it becomes clear who's moving down and their performances in doing so

ya on the flyweights I won't rank someone in the fly division till they fight there

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no flyweight

All of these dudes have multiple fights for you to watch right now online.


It has almost been a week since the introduction of the UFC flyweight division at UFC on FX 2, and it’s clear that the weight class needs more fighters. While many UFC Bantamweights such as John Dodson (12-5) and Louis Gaudinot (5-2) will likely cut down to 125 pounds, the flyweight division is still sparse, and there is a myriad of talent outside of the UFC that could add depth to UFC’s newest division. I’ll help the UFC out and let them know about ten flyweights that they should sign.

Jussier "Formiga" da Silva (12-1)

Now that Ian McCall (11-2-1) has been signed by the UFC, Jussier da Silva has become the top flyweight not yet signed to a ZUFFA contract. "Formiga" is a consensus top 5 flyweight on just about anybody’s rankings, and his wins over top fighters Mamoru Yamaguchi (26-6-3) and Shinichi Kojima (12-4-5) validate that. Da Silva uses his elite BJJ, slick submissions, and speed to defeat the majority of his opponents.

Rambaa "M16" Somdet (9-2)

It may not be likely for Somdet to compete in the flyweight division due to the fact that he primarily fights at strawweight (115 lb.). Despite being small for the weight class, it would still be a pleasure to see the 5 ft 2 in Thailand native in the UFC. Somdet is talented on the ground, but his ability to incorporate his speed with his technically sound striking game is where Somdet shines.

Mamoru Yamaguchi (26-6-3)

Yamaguchi doesn’t just make this list based on his awesome Afro, but I’d be lying if I said it didn’t help. He is dripping with charisma that could garner him a cult-like audience. Coming off a loss to Jussier da Silva in August, Yamaguchi should be hungry for a win as he has never lost back-to-back fights in his career. Yamaguchi is a dangerous flyweight that prefers to strike where he is able to showcase his powerful looping hooks.

Dustin Ortiz (8-1)

Continuing the trend of fighters with fantastic hair, Dustin Ortiz has potential to really be a top fighter in the flyweight division. Still in the early part of his career, Ortiz has been impressive recently with a win over Josh Rave (18-9). Ortiz is one of the most fun fighters to watch as he is hyper-aggressive and is relentless with the pressure he forces on his opponents.

Darrell "The Mongoose" Montague (9-2)

Montague’s impressive six fight win streak which features a victory over Ulysses Gomez (9-2) was abruptly snapped by Ian McCall at Tachi Palace Fights 10. Despite the defeat, Montague is a talented fighter that should easily resonate with the UFC audience as he is one of the few top American flyweights. Montague is a well-rounded fighter that usually wins the stand-up battle with his long reach.

Shinichi "BJ" Kojima (12-4)

Shinichi Kojima's last two wins have left more to be desired, but Kojima still remains a top ranked flyweight. Kojima is a scrappy fighter that deserves a shot in the UFC to test his ability. Kojima has quality stand-up, and he’s able to put together painful combinations. Prior to any UFC fight, he is first scheduled to take on Nam Jin Jo (6-3) on March 10th in Korakuen Hall in a fight that Kojima needs to look impressive in.

Jose Maria "No Chance" Tome (28-3 2 NC)

After a loss to Jussier da Silva in early 2008, Tome went on to not lose in his next sixteen fights, the only blemishes being two no contests. Tome has dominated the Brazilian flyweight scene with his grappling game. Finishing four of his last five opponents in the first round, Tome is due for an upgrade in competition, and the UFC should give a "No Chance" a chance.

Ulysses "Useless" Gomez (9-2)

Gomez is currently the Tachi Palace Bantamweight Champion. He is a fighter that has embarrassed inferior completion, but has faltered when facing some of the top fighters in his weight class. If the fight hits the ground then it should favor Gomez who is one of the more talented BJJ fighters.

Roy "The Punisher" Docyogen (10-0)

Roy Docyogen is another fighter that fights at strawweight, but could fight in the flyweight division if push comes to shove. Docyogen is a prospect from the Philippines with legitimate potential. The ground is where Docyogen thrives as he beats his opponents by wearing them down with ground and pound and eventually submitting them with a slick transition into a submission.

Alexis "The Exorcist" Vila (11-1)

Vila’s contract situation with Bellator is unclear, so it’s possible that UFC wouldn’t be able to sign the 40 year-old that took the MMA world by storm with a 1st Round KO upset over Joe Warren (7-2). While his Bellator fights have been in the bantamweight division, fighting in flyweight isn’t a stretch for the Olympic Bronze Medalist wrestler. The combination of powerful striking and elite wrestling is a deadly one for the Cuban fighter

I tried to tell em
https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/t14080-learn-to-fly?highlight=learn

Ninja wrote:

The problem with Dodson in the past is that he would just take rounds off and dance around for no reason...he did this in his fights with Pat Runez, Mike Easton, and the John Moraga. Recently Dodson has been showing a killer instinct.

I truly would favor him to wreak Ian McCall. McCall sucess stems from the fact that he is in a weight class that at the moment is not quite developed. As elite fighter who were forced to fight at 135 start to cut to 125, guys like McCall will be phased out.

He would beat Mighty Mouse, but it would be close.

Joe would beat him by UD.

Noted.

Ian used to fight only 135 pound fighters, many of whom dropped down from 145 to fight at 135... it's all reciprocal in the end.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Ian used to fight only 135 pound fighters, many of whom dropped down from 145 to fight at 135... it's all reciprocal in the end.

For example, he fought Dom Cruz in Cruz's 2nd fight at BW. Cruz was actually a LW at one point.

His only two losses came to guys who were withing two fights from dropping down from higher weight classes. If you do MMAth Ian>Fedor also. And 4-time state wrestling champ not to mention James Beard Award winner for stash loops.