New Ninjas Place Divisional Rankings Coming Soon

freakzilla wrote:

Yeah but he's back there now and that's where I think he will be about.

Has he said he's going back there? Last I heard he was being told by doctors to retire due to back problems or something like that.

He said once his back his healthy he will only be fighting at Lightweight.

If he ever fights again it will be LW but that is a big ? mark at this point. I doubt we see him back

1 JDS
2 Cain
3 Overeem
4 Barnett
5 Cormier
6 Werdum
7 Silva
8 Carwin
9 Mir
10 Fedor

1 Jones
2 Shogun
3 Henderson
4 Machida
5 Evans
6 Cavalcante
7 Lawal
8 Mousasi
9 Gustafsson
10 Bader

1 Silva
2 Belfort
3 Munoz
4 Sonnen
5 Lombard
6 Stann
7 Rockhold
8 Khalidov
9 Boetsch
10 Bisping

1 GSP
2 Condit
3 Diaz
4 Hendricks
5 Ellenberger
6 Koscheck
7 Fitch
8 Kampmann
9 Shields
10 McDonald

1 Melendez
2 Maynard
3 Henderson
4 Edgar
5 Aoki
6 Chandler
7 Miller
8 Alvarez
9 Guida
10 Pettis

1 Aldo
2 Curran
3 Hioki
4 Mendez
5 Sandro
6 Kawajiri
7 Freire
8 Poirier
9 Koch
10 Jung

1 Cruz
2 Faber
3 Barao
4 Torres
5 McDonald
6 Fernandez
7 Bowels
8 Jorgenson
9 Ueda
10 Makovsky

1 McCall
2 Benazidez
3 Silva
4 Johnson
5 Urushitani
6 Montague
7 Yamaguchi
8 Somdet
9 Kojima
10 Ortiz

We can't do a ranking here in anymore.

7 people in 4 months did rankings. It's not good enough.

Just wanted to remind you people that you're an embarrassment

I've been updating mine!

1 JDS
2 Cain
3 Overeem
4 Barnett
5 Cormier
6 Werdum
7 Silva
8 Mir
9 Fedor
10 Hunt

1 Jones
2 Shogun
3 Henderson
4 Machida
5 Evans
6 Gustafsson
7 Cavalcante
8 Lawal
9 Mousasi
10 Bader

1 Silva
2 Belfort
3 Munoz
4 Sonnen
5 Lombard
6 Stann
7 Rockhold
8 Khalidov
9 Boetsch
10 Bisping

1 GSP
2 Condit
3 Diaz
4 Hendricks
5 Ellenberger
6 Koscheck
7 Fitch
8 McDonald
9 Kampmann
10 Shields

1 Melendez
2 Maynard
3 Henderson
4 Edgar
5 Chandler
6 Alvarez
7 Miller
8 Guida
9 Pettis
10 Diaz

1 Aldo
2 Curran
3 Hioki
4 Mendez
5 Sandro
6 Kawajiri
7 Freire
8 Poirier
9 Koch
10 Jung

1 Cruz
2 Faber
3 McDonald
4 Barao
5 Dantas
6 Fernandez
7 Bowels
8 Torres
9 Nogueira
10 Jorgenson

1 McCall
2 Benazidez
3 Silva
4 Johnson
5 Urushitani
6 Montague
7 Yamaguchi
8 Somdet
9 Kojima
10 Ortiz

UPDATED
1.JDS
2.Cain
3.Reem
4.Barnett
5.Cormier
6.Mir
7.Werdum
8.Bigfoot
9.Carwin
10.Fedor

LHW
1.Jones
2.Hendo
3.Shogun
4.Rashad
5.Rampage
6.Machida
7.Gus
8.Feijao
9.King Mo
10.Mousasi

MW
1.Spider
2.Sonnen
3.Munoz
4.Vitor
5.Lombard
6.Stann
7.Rockhold
8.Jacare
9.Bisping
10.Boetsch
I really feel bad leaving off Belcher, Okami and Storm. MW has really filled out.

WW
1.GSP
2.Nick
3.Hendricks
4.Condit
5.Fitch
6.Ellenberger
7.Rory MacDonald
8.Kampmann
9.Kos
10.Ben Askren

LW
1.Bendo
2.Melendez
3.Edgar
4.Chandler
5.Diaz
6.Pettis
7.Maynard
8.Alvarez
9.Guida
10.Hawn

FW
1.Aldo
2.Curran
3.Hioki
4.Crusher
5.Sandro
6.Mendes
7.Freire
8.Zombie
9.Poirier
10.Straus

BW
1.Cruz
2.Faber
3.Macdonald
4.Barao
5.Dantas
6.Jorgensen
7.Fernandes
8.Makovsky
9.Torres
10.Luis Alberto Nogueira

1 JDS
2 Cain
3 Overeem
4 Barnett
5 Cormier
6 Werdum
7 Silva
8 Mir
9 Fedor
10 Hunt

1 Jones
2 Shogun
3 Henderson
4 Machida
5 Evans
6 Gustafsson
7 Cavalcante
8 Lawal
9 Mousasi
10 Bader

1 Silva
2 Belfort
3 Munoz
4 Sonnen
5 Lombard
6 Stann
7 Rockhold
8 Boetsch
9 Khalidov
10 Belchar

1 GSP
2 Condit
3 Diaz
4 Hendricks
5 Ellenberger
6 Kampmann
7 McDonald
8 Koscheck
9 Fitch
10 Shields

1 Melendez
2 Maynard
3 Henderson
4 Edgar
5 Chandler
6 Alvarez
7 Diaz
8 Guida
9 Pettis
10 Miller
11 Hawn

1 Aldo
2 Curran
3 Hioki
4 Mendez
5 Sandro
6 Kawajiri
7 Freire
8 Poirier
9 Koch
10 Siver

1 Cruz
2 Faber
3 McDonald
4 Barao
5 Dantas
6 Fernandez
7 Bowels
8 Torres
9 Nogueira
10 Jorgenson

1 McCall
2 Benazidez
3 Silva
4 Johnson
5 Urushitani
6 Dodson
7 Montague
8 Somdet
9 Gaudinot
10 Elliot

When is the next deadline?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

When is the next deadline?

vote or GTFO.

Somdet is a 115 pound fighter.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Somdet is a 115 pound fighter.

All of his opponents fight between 125 and 145 though so??

GDPofDRC wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Somdet is a 115 pound fighter.

All of his opponents fight between 125 and 145 though so??

Shooto flyweight is 115.


Throws you off when you wikipedia.

Consider this. I know that.

You really think Luis Gaudinot or John Linker stands a chance against this guy?

Somdet was the hyped name back when flyweight was mysterious but he has 0 takedown defense and his KO power isn't there. He is also small at 125. He isn't in the weight class and would get crushed by wrestlers in the UFC.

And spare me lip about not watching him fight, I posted on this dude while we were still at ESPN and saw his whole career years ago. He's only had one fight a year for the last like three years. No, this dude isn't a top ten flyweight in 2012.

Still no list? I suggest you go do some reading.

So basically no, "Cause UFC. Whatever."

You're good. Wrong of course, but you're not supposed to know that.

You heard about this guy from me probably GDP. And Louis has been a hyped fucking prospect for years(I also posted about him in 2010) and is much more well rounded and fits this division better. Somdet doesn't have good wrestling, is 37, doesn't hit hard. He just isn't a good match up for modern flyweights. I like the fighter for sure, number 1 straw weight, but there is no case for him to be ranked at 125. Useless would beat him in a rematch, he'd lose again to Darren Uyenoyama. I bet he would lose to several of the good TPF guys too. He's too small, doesn't hit hard enough, not good enough wrestling.

I appreciate you guys trying to keep the anti-Zuffa monopoly, Pride spirit alive, but this is a flawed ranking. Somdet just isn't in this conversation anymore.

Again, someone not willing to give his own rankings has no room to criticize the list of others with the current knowledge to put a list together.

OU wrote:

Again, someone not willing to give his own rankings has no room to criticize the list of others with the current knowledge to put a list together.

I gave my flyweight rankings. You didn't. Step off. I'd have to spend an hour or two watching tape to give a full accurate list. I'm not going to do it now.

Fly
1.Creepy
2.Mouse
3.Joe
4.Da Silva
5.Mongoose
6.Dodson
7.Urushitani
8.Gaudinot
9.Elliott
10.Ochi

Wolfgangsta wrote:

OU wrote:

Again, someone not willing to give his own rankings has no room to criticize the list of others with the current knowledge to put a list together.

I gave my flyweight rankings. You didn't. Step off. I'd have to spend an hour or two watching tape to give a full accurate list. I'm not going to do it now.

LOL wow, watch hours of fights just to throw a list together? Give me a rough draft. You can edit it. Show me what you got.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

You heard about this guy from me probably GDP. And Louis has been a hyped fucking prospect for years(I also posted about him in 2010) and is much more well rounded and fits this division better. Somdet doesn't have good wrestling, is 37, doesn't hit hard. He just isn't a good match up for modern flyweights. I like the fighter for sure, number 1 straw weight, but there is no case for him to be ranked at 125. Useless would beat him in a rematch, he'd lose again to Darren Uyenoyama. I bet he would lose to several of the good TPF guys too. He's too small, doesn't hit hard enough, not good enough wrestling.

I appreciate you guys trying to keep the anti-Zuffa monopoly, Pride spirit alive, but this is a flawed ranking. Somdet just isn't in this conversation anymore.

Uyenoyama is a 135er Somdet fought ten years ago.

Too small yet all of the opponents he has beaten since back in the sport have been fighters who are staples of divisions with limits at 120, 123, 125 and 135. If he is too small why does he keep beating all theses fighters bigger than him?

Strawman of the day. May 7th 2012.