2000 mosley vs today's pacquiao at 147

thinking about this fight i think about shane's chin and his powerful right hand. i really believe that mosley wrecks his ass because i think mosley's chin will take pacquiao's shots. i dont think pacquiao can take mosley's right hands. looking at mosley vs collazo shane didnt have a problem with the left hand really. the only time collazo would consistently catch shane was when collazo used his right jab and that was the same story for winky wright only winky did it almost the whole fight.

pacquiao has no consistent right jab. hes an offensive machine. mosley's jab is mediocre but if theres one thing about pacquiao is that if you even throw a mediocre jab he just backs up and looks lost. this was very evident in the pacquiao vs hatton fight when hatton used his jab in it and it backed pacquiao up. even a mediocre jab gets pacquiao to be vulnerable.

i say mosley TKO 9

i knew that mosley would beat pac if they fought a year or 2 ago. thats why pac or roach wanted no part of him. he was too fast and strong and would be able to take punishment. i think that a lot of people will disagree with us but mosley at 147 would wreck manny. especially a more prime mosley at 147 like the one that fought oscar.

My bet is Manny puts up a gallant fight for 3-4 rounds before Shane just wears him out. These really are two different sized guys and Shane was a pretty freaking good athlete himself. Shane has a SEVEN inch reach advantage and probably outweighs Manny in the ring by 10 pounds.

powerpuncher wrote:

i knew that mosley would beat pac if they fought a year or 2 ago. thats why pac or roach wanted no part of him. he was too fast and strong and would be able to take punishment. i think that a lot of people will disagree with us but mosley at 147 would wreck manny. especially a more prime mosley at 147 like the one that fought oscar.

i dont think many will disagree

its obvious why mosley was ducked by roach. roach knows mosley is strong and a big puncher with that right hand.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

My bet is Manny puts up a gallant fight for 3-4 rounds before Shane just wears him out. These really are two different sized guys and Shane was a pretty freaking good athlete himself. Shane has a SEVEN inch reach advantage and probably outweighs Manny in the ring by 10 pounds.

shane was pretty athletic in his prime. shane against southpaws has a decent jab actually as shown in the collazo fight. in the winky fight shane was just too small against him and winky's defense plus his great right jab made it hell for shane. shane used his jab in the rematch only that winkys was better hence why he still lost.

Shane struggled with better technicians: Wright, Forrest, Floyd. An athletic fast guy who is smaller (Pac) is going to be in the fight, but only for about 15 minutes max. Mosley too big, too strong, and equally fast in his prime.

I picked Pacquiao to lose about ten times over the past ten or so years and he's proven me wong quite often. I wouldn't make the same mistake here. I say pac takes him with no other explanation than he's proven me wrong so many other times.

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

I picked Pacquiao to lose about ten times over the past ten or so years and he's proven me wong quite often. I wouldn't make the same mistake here. I say pac takes him with no other explanation than he's proven me wrong so many other times.

LOL at least you gave an explanation

captainanddew wrote:

Shane struggled with better technicians: Wright, Forrest, Floyd. An athletic fast guy who is smaller (Pac) is going to be in the fight, but only for about 15 minutes max. Mosley too big, too strong, and equally fast in his prime.

not only that but can hit with both hands and has a decent jab against southpaws as proven in the collazo and wright fights.

this is the thing that people dont understand about the fighters pacquiao is fighting recently.

hatton - left hand dominate fighter that relies on his left hook to much, doesnt use a jab, and his right hand is not great technically

cotto - left hand dominate fighter with a good jab and great left hook but no great right hand

de la hoya - de la hoya was a dead man walking, nuff said

clottey - good right hand, decent jab, good left hook, but doesnt do it enough however he did prove what im trying to tell you guys that a great straight right hand and a decent jab gives you the best opportunity to beat pacquiao and we saw that when clottey did let go he landed a good amount of shots on pacquiao. obviously clottey is doesnt throw enough so that was his downfall

all this is the reason why morales and marquez had great success against pacquiao

both can hit with both hands and have a great straight right hand with a good jab. some will say "aiolos barrera could hit with both hands and look how pacquiao wasted him". barrera is not on par with morales and marquez in boxing ability.

its about styles and i believe shane's style plus his chin wrecks pacquiao. now some will say "aiolos shane doesnt have boxing ability of morales and marquez either so what about that"

thats a good point but shanes chin and size will compensate that, barrera on the other hand cant take it and give it while shane can.

Pac fights hard and hits mosley with power early because of Pac's speed but it wouldnt matter. About round 7 Mosley is doing a bunch of damage and Pac's corner stops the fight if not the ref.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

My bet is Manny puts up a gallant fight for 3-4 rounds before Shane just wears him out. These really are two different sized guys and Shane was a pretty freaking good athlete himself. Shane has a SEVEN inch reach advantage and probably outweighs Manny in the ring by 10 pounds.

thats my biggest reason is that shane was just too big. manny is definitely a better fighter but its not a good style for pac and shane would just be too big and strong. i think that shane would nullify almost every one of pac's strengths at welter.

Shane decapitates Pacquiao.

powerpuncher wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

My bet is Manny puts up a gallant fight for 3-4 rounds before Shane just wears him out. These really are two different sized guys and Shane was a pretty freaking good athlete himself. Shane has a SEVEN inch reach advantage and probably outweighs Manny in the ring by 10 pounds.

thats my biggest reason is that shane was just too big. manny is definitely a better fighter but its not a good style for pac and shane would just be too big and strong. i think that shane would nullify almost every one of pac's strengths at welter.

How good do you guys think Shane was? I think he is one of the greats skill wise. I would dare to say that he could hold his own with any WW.

soonermark890 wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

My bet is Manny puts up a gallant fight for 3-4 rounds before Shane just wears him out. These really are two different sized guys and Shane was a pretty freaking good athlete himself. Shane has a SEVEN inch reach advantage and probably outweighs Manny in the ring by 10 pounds.

thats my biggest reason is that shane was just too big. manny is definitely a better fighter but its not a good style for pac and shane would just be too big and strong. i think that shane would nullify almost every one of pac's strengths at welter.

How good do you guys think Shane was? I think he is one of the greats skill wise. I would dare to say that he could hold his own with any WW.

i definitely think that shane was and is underrated as a fighter. he isnt by any means unstoppable but i believe that he could hold his own against many WWs, not all of them. remember that he was a dominant lightweight, not welterweight. we saw that he had troubles with forrest and i think that there are other fighters at WW that he would probably have troubles with, but overall, i think that he could at least hold his own against most WWs in his prime.

Yup, I agree with the points on here. The 2000 version of Shane is too big, strong, fast and has too much chin for Pac. Also good point that the only fighters Shane has trouble with are slick, technically gifted guys like Floyd and Winky.

He beats down a puncher like Pac over the distance, IMO. I think that Shane is one of the best I've seen at 147, so no real slight to the smaller Manny.

powerpuncher wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

My bet is Manny puts up a gallant fight for 3-4 rounds before Shane just wears him out. These really are two different sized guys and Shane was a pretty freaking good athlete himself. Shane has a SEVEN inch reach advantage and probably outweighs Manny in the ring by 10 pounds.

thats my biggest reason is that shane was just too big. manny is definitely a better fighter but its not a good style for pac and shane would just be too big and strong. i think that shane would nullify almost every one of pac's strengths at welter.

How good do you guys think Shane was? I think he is one of the greats skill wise. I would dare to say that he could hold his own with any WW.

i definitely think that shane was and is underrated as a fighter. he isnt by any means unstoppable but i believe that he could hold his own against many WWs, not all of them. remember that he was a dominant lightweight, not welterweight. we saw that he had troubles with forrest and i think that there are other fighters at WW that he would probably have troubles with, but overall, i think that he could at least hold his own against most WWs in his prime.

Good point on Forest. I will say very few would beat him badly.

Prime Mosley at welter murders him imo.