THE FIGHT

if you want to call it that..its not that wlad looked that good it wass peter who looked extra bad.pahetic sorry..he threw litterly no punches.hes the slowest legit heavyweight contender ive ever seen including films going back to day 1..he bobed and weaved the first few rounds but did not punch off the weave like dempsey and marciano or even frazier..he closed no distence doing that when the others did..hes hand speed moves in extra slow motion his body relexes are like a statues and his feet are glued to the canvas..during the third round i saw defeat on his face..no grit no spirit no heart..hes as i said many times a very overated fighter but i thought if he threw punches he could possibly pull an upset..i thought id never say this but david haye would of ate peter up far better then wlad..wlad was there to be hit but peter tossed nothing..
look wlad had only a 4 inch reach advantage and peter could hit him off the weave but threw nothing nor did he shorten distence..after 5 rounds he was out of gas..wlad took what peter gave him which was everything..it was petes ineptness not wlads skill that made wlad look good..
you may think im crazy but david haye should be very encouraged in what he saw tonight..im sure im in the minority here but peter was a joke..haye adamek would of slapped him silly...wlad as usual was in peak condition but yes but..i also several times got frustrated with the ref allowing weak clinches to last forever..bully the guy in the clinch make him work..marciano did basilio did ..opps i forgot they knew how to fight..peter does not...im not saying haye would of won tonight but he would of held his own..wlad won every second of the fight except for 15 seconds...its easy to look good against a guy who dont punch ..no grit no spirit little skill ..its was peter himself that was soo pathetic..he made wlad look good on a night where someone else maybe a haye would of made the fight competitive...at least for 8 rounds anyway.peter was competitive for 8 seconds...sorry.

oh man Alis gonna love this post haha

lol lol bird its true..so is your statement

i didint get to see the fight so i cant comment but sounds like Peter looked like crap and Wlad did his usual bang bang boom routine

i 100% agree with you dmar. a while ago i watched foreman's pro debut and the guy that he was fighting wasnt that great obviously since it was foremans debut but the guy threw punches and looked like he was at least trying to win. the reason i bring him up is because peter reminded me of that guy kind of except for the fact that the other guy had more heart and actually tried to win. i seriously see peter as a fighter that would be the guy that you put an olympic gold medalist in with in his debut or at least his first 5 fights.

wlad is fighting guys that are just terrible. i know that it isnt klits fault but peter was just terrible. none of these HWs would even be noticed if they were in any other weight class.

Sam Peter was very very disappointing

Wlad is on another level compared to the rest of the HWs right now...

Vitali is really his only competition

Wlad didn't do the normal routine. He was throwing alot more power punches than normal. Peter's plan was to stand there, get pummelled, and then dive in. He had no real shot. Wlad landed alot of right hands on Peter's mug. Peter might want to think about another career after the beatings Vitali and Wlad handed him.

dmar5143 wrote:

if you want to call it that..its not that wlad looked that good it wass peter who looked extra bad.pahetic sorry..he threw litterly no punches.hes the slowest legit heavyweight contender ive ever seen including films going back to day 1..he bobed and weaved the first few rounds but did not punch off the weave like dempsey and marciano or even frazier..he closed no distence doing that when the others did..hes hand speed moves in extra slow motion his body relexes are like a statues and his feet are glued to the canvas..during the third round i saw defeat on his face..no grit no spirit no heart..hes as i said many times a very overated fighter but i thought if he threw punches he could possibly pull an upset..i thought id never say this but david haye would of ate peter up far better then wlad..wlad was there to be hit but peter tossed nothing..
look wlad had only a 4 inch reach advantage and peter could hit him off the weave but threw nothing nor did he shorten distence..after 5 rounds he was out of gas..wlad took what peter gave him which was everything..it was petes ineptness not wlads skill that made wlad look good..
you may think im crazy but david haye should be very encouraged in what he saw tonight..im sure im in the minority here but peter was a joke..haye adamek would of slapped him silly...wlad as usual was in peak condition but yes but..i also several times got frustrated with the ref allowing weak clinches to last forever..bully the guy in the clinch make him work..marciano did basilio did ..opps i forgot they knew how to fight..peter does not...im not saying haye would of won tonight but he would of held his own..wlad won every second of the fight except for 15 seconds...its easy to look good against a guy who dont punch ..no grit no spirit little skill ..its was peter himself that was soo pathetic..he made wlad look good on a night where someone else maybe a haye would of made the fight competitive...at least for 8 rounds anyway.peter was competitive for 8 seconds...sorry.

A couple of thoughts.

1. I think you are overestimating Peter's bobbing and weaving. It didn't make it out of round one
2. David Haye lasts less than three rounds against the Wlad who fought tonight unless he behaves the way he did against Valuev and runs and throws twelve punches a round.
3. I agree Wlad won every minute of every round, left Peter's face looking like dogfood, and finished him off. I am really not sure what else we are supposed to ask for.

The issue is not Wlad. It is THE OTHER GUYS! If Wlad is so limited, how does he keep winning in dominating, unscathed fashion.

I mean It CAN'T be that everyone else stinks! They are superior athletes, have access to all these miracle nutritional benefits and magical never seen before training methods and they use all sorts of in-ring techniques that didn't exist 25 years ago, don't they? DON'T THEY??????????

Cobb was a speed demon compared to Peter.

captainanddew wrote:

Wlad didn't do the normal routine. He was throwing alot more power punches than normal. Peter's plan was to stand there, get pummelled, and then dive in. He had no real shot. Wlad landed alot of right hands on Peter's mug. Peter might want to think about another career after the beatings Vitali and Wlad handed him.

It was getting really uncomfortable to watch there at the end. Peter showed he was very tough and very fit. But there is no way to train the brain to take repeated concussive blows from a huge man like that. I wonder if he'll ever compete at the championship level again. Wlad may have ruined him.

WinstonSmith wrote:

Cobb was a speed demon compared to Peter.

Is it possible that the Tex Cobb of say 1980 might be the third best heavyweight on the planet today?

I mean would you pick Adamek or Haye over him?

I am BEGGING you to tell me I sound like Hatton mid-binge.

As limited as Cobb was,I must say I would have to agree with you.Tex would have laughed at Klitschkos punches.

Vitali has to fuck the cheerleader and make Wlad mad so they'll fight.

Currently watching Tyson-Holmes.For the first time that I can remember,Larry looked like he'd rather be somewhere else.

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WinstonSmith wrote:

Currently watching Tyson-Holmes.For the first time that I can remember,Larry looked like he'd rather be somewhere else.

I remember reading an interview before the fight where he said (paraphrase) If I get hit I'll look for a spot to lie down. I'm not taking a beating here.

Made me sad. he was in it for the payday...then the rope reached out and grabbed his right arm just as he was about to hurt Tyson [rolling eyes]

the classic Holmes quote from that fight

for 4 million dollars you would get your ass kicked

marbleheadmaui wrote:

WinstonSmith wrote:

Currently watching Tyson-Holmes.For the first time that I can remember,Larry looked like he'd rather be somewhere else.

I remember reading an interview before the fight where he said (paraphrase) If I get hit I'll look for a spot to lie down. I'm not taking a beating here.

Made me sad. he was in it for the payday...then the rope reached out and grabbed his right arm just as he was about to hurt Tyson [rolling eyes]

I still can't believe he got up after that first KD,the man went out like a warrior.I agree with you,I think Larry took it for the money.

"Screw up in tennis,and it's 15-love,screw up in boxing and it's your ass."-Cobb

Wlad can't win. He gets no credit no matter what happens. I disagree with you dmar. I think Peter looked the best he has ever looked. Wladimir was just so dominant that Peter was destroyed mentally and physically.

I thought the champ looked absolutely fantastic.

Canvas wrote:

Wlad can't win. He gets no credit no matter what happens. I disagree with you dmar. I think Peter looked the best he has ever looked. Wladimir was just so dominant that Peter was destroyed mentally and physically.

I thought the champ looked absolutely fantastic.

The sheer data makes the case to some degree doesn't it?

That's what? Nine ranked guys he's faced in the last 4-5 years and he has 8 KO's and has lost very few rounds. He is obviously willing to fight anybody. He has vastly improved and perfected a style suited to his natural gifts. He is alwways in shape.

I mean the guy can't do much more can he? I mean I suppose he could fight dumb to make things more competitive, but that makes no sense at all.

Now is he great? I don't think so. But he is doing EVERYTHING one can reasonably ask of a fighter.

The stats are deceiving.

Ali_1748 wrote:

The stats are deceiving.

In what way?

peter mentality gave up before the end of round 3.he mentality gave up against vitali in about the fifth round and the same round against chambers.to defeat peter mentaly is not a great feat..hes a frontrunner..i was never that impressed by him soo please if thats the best he ever looked then he far worse then i thought..i was expecting a go for broke effort from him..he did the oposite and played follow the leader...i agree wlad did what he had to do with ease..peter co operated..outside of being tagged and briefly stunned by a left hook wlad never took a step backwards that i can remember...it was target practice against a very slow stationary fighter who offered no offense in return..
i dont believe haye can beat wlad..but lets look at what we are saying about hayes fight against valuez..first valuez dwarfs wlad..hes 7 inches taller and outweights him by 75 pounds..thats huge and wlad is a huge fighter..he was more agressive then wlad coming in at haye then wlad was last night..everyone here including i felt hollifield won against valuez in what i will call a non fight..we praise evander...haye did the same fightplan as hollifield only he executed it better and we crtizise haye who was outweighed by 100 pounds and was what almost 9 inches shorter..he fought a boring but tacticaly correct and smart fight..he does have some talent fluid movement good boxing skills speed afoot and with his hands and ring intelligence all which peter lacks..he can give angles counter punch effectively and maybe even slip some punches all which peter did not do..
wlads power of course against hayes chin in all likelyhood will result in a ko win for him..haye will give him some problems though unless a shot hits him very very early..haye can execute a game plan..peter had none.he plodded..this is not a case of wlad dominating a fighter with skill.its a inept very limited fighter whos slow in everything including thinking that wlad dominated.haye adamek also would of dominated peter..chambers did and hes light hitting..
wlad has a good skill level and against a peter type fighter will look very impressive..soo did chambers..every fighter looks impressive in training hitting the heavy bag..thats all peter was..is wlad the class of the heavys today..yep.is he worthy of a hall of fame status..yep..is he a near great..yep..all those compliments hes earned..is peter inept in many things..yep..his ineptness was not a result of wlads skills its a result of peters non skills..just like the heavy bag..