THR RING A-Z

Ali asked that I encapsulate the Ring.com Best Ever by letter so it can become a permanent feature.

The list was compiled by Michael Rosenthal with limited input from Bert Sugar. The criteria included accomplishments in the ring with a heavy emphasis on strength of opposition as well as impact on the sport and thrills provided. The honorable mentions are in parenthesis.

A-Henry Armstrong (Alexis Arguello, Muhammad Ali, Lou Ambers, Sammy Angott and Abe Attell)

B-Charley Burley (Marco Antonio Barerra, Carmen Basilio, Wilfredo Benitez, Jackie "Kid" Berg and Jack Britton)

C-Ezzard Charles (Tony Canzoneri, Cassius Clay, Marcel Cerdan, Julio Cesar Chavez and Billy Conn)

D-Roberto Duran (Jack Dempsey, Jack Dillon, George Dixon, Jim Driscoll and Johnny Dundee)

E-Flash Elorde (Hiroyuki Ebihara, Frank Erne, Sixto Escobar, Cronelius Boza-Edwards and Antonio Esparragoza)

F-George Foreman (Bob Fitzsimmons, Jackie Fields, James Figg, Bob Foster and Joe Frazier

G-Harry Greb (Mike and Tommy Gibbons, Joe Gans, Kid Gavilan and Emil Griffith)

H-Marvelous Marvin Hagler (Fighting Harada, Evander Holyfield, Larry Holmes, Tommy Hearns and Bernard Hopkins)

I-Ike Ibeabuchi (Luis Ibarra, Hiroki Ioaka, Guts Ishimatsu and Johnny Indrisano)

J-Jack Johnson (Eder Jofre, Jim Jeffries, Lew Jenkins, Beau Jack and Roy Jones jr.)

K-Stanley Ketchell (Peter Kane, Louis Kid Kaplan, Johnny Kilbane, Frank Klaus and Pone Kingpetch)

L-Joe Louis (Jake LaMotta, Benny Leonard, Ray Leonard, Ted Kid Lewis and Sam Langford)

M-Archie Moore (Rocky Marciano, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Terry McGovern, Jimmy McLarnin and Carlos Monzon)

N-Jose Napoles (Azumah Neslon, Kid Norfolk, Battling Nelson, Kenny Norton and Terry Norris)

O-Ruben Olivares (Manuel Ortiz, Carlos ortiz, Philadelphia Jack O'Brien and Carl "Bobo" Olson)

P-Willie Pep (Manny Pacquiao, Aaron Pryor, Billy Petrolle, Pascual perez and Eusabio Pedroza)

Q-Dwight Muhammad Qawi (Ike Quartey, Jerry and Mike Quarry, Robert Quiroga and Vincenzo Quero)

R-Ray Robinson (Barney Ross, Luis Manuel Rodriguez, Maxie Rosenbloom, Tommy Ryan and Jose Luis Ramirez)

S-Sandy Saddler (Salvador Sanchez, Michael Spinks, John L. Sullivan, Max Schmeling and Freddie Steele)

T-Gene Tunney (Dick Tiger, Bud Taylor, Lew Tendler, Felix Trinidad and Mike Tyson)

U-Paolino Uzcundun (Franco Udella, Yasutsune Uehara, Juan Urango, Alfredo Urbina and Jose Manuel Urtain)

V-Pancho Villa (Rodrigo Valdez, Fernando Vargas, Israel Vasquez, Wilfredo Vasquez and Benny Valger)

W-Mickey Walker (Jimmy Wilde, Barbados Joe Walcott, Pernell Whittaker, Freddie Welsh and Ike Williams)

X-Alfredo Xeque (why bother)

Y-Teddy Yarosz (Myung Woo Yuh, Jimmy Young, Hiroshi Yoshino, Yasuei Yakushiji and Don Kyun Kim)

Z-Tony Zale (Carlos Zarate, Fritzie Zivic, Daniel Zaragoza, Hilario Zapata and Juan Zurita)

Here is a link to the Z article which has all the writeups carried within it.
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2303/the_best_of_all_time_a_to_z_zale/

Thank you Marble

Good stuff

Sticky?

Hmm maybe.

Thanks Marble. I applaud Ring for its work. Even though they didn't get it right every time, they did get it right overall. Good work.

ali had the name ali and clay and still didnt make the list.

powerpuncher wrote:

ali had the name ali and clay and still didnt make the list.

He should've made it twice.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

ali had the name ali and clay and still didnt make the list.

He should've made it twice.

Nope. Cassius Clay had 29 fights. He doesn't measure up to Ezzard at that point. The Armstrong-Ali thing is a lot closer call.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

ali had the name ali and clay and still didnt make the list.

He should've made it twice.

Nope. Cassius Clay had 29 fights. He doesn't measure up to Ezzard at that point. The Armstrong-Ali thing is a lot closer call.

It's the same guy. Can we stop pretending it's 2 different people.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

ali had the name ali and clay and still didnt make the list.

He should've made it twice.

Nope. Cassius Clay had 29 fights. He doesn't measure up to Ezzard at that point. The Armstrong-Ali thing is a lot closer call.

It's the same guy. Can we stop pretending it's 2 different people.

Um, NO! THAT was the very point Rosenthal was making showing two different names. Sheesh.

Cassius Clay was the pre-military draft guy and Muhammad Ali was the entire career guy.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

ali had the name ali and clay and still didnt make the list.

He should've made it twice.

Nope. Cassius Clay had 29 fights. He doesn't measure up to Ezzard at that point. The Armstrong-Ali thing is a lot closer call.

It's the same guy. Can we stop pretending it's 2 different people.

Um, NO! THAT was the very point Rosenthal was making showing two different names. Sheesh.

Cassius Clay was the pre-military draft guy and Muhammad Ali was the entire career guy.

If Muhammad Ali was the entire career guy then it's stupid to even mention Cassius Clay.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

ali had the name ali and clay and still didnt make the list.

He should've made it twice.

Nope. Cassius Clay had 29 fights. He doesn't measure up to Ezzard at that point. The Armstrong-Ali thing is a lot closer call.

It's the same guy. Can we stop pretending it's 2 different people.

Um, NO! THAT was the very point Rosenthal was making showing two different names. Sheesh.

Cassius Clay was the pre-military draft guy and Muhammad Ali was the entire career guy.

If Muhammad Ali was the entire career guy then it's stupid to even mention Cassius Clay.

Hey take it up with Rosenthal.

Freak any chance you could minimize that signature ? it's just a tad bit too big.

Ali truly had two careers with two different styles. I think it's kind of cool he's on there twice. Had Tyson defeated Holyfield he would have to be on there twice as well.

Alot people think the pre-exile Clay is better than Ali. Did the name change before or during the exile ?

Ali_1748 wrote:

Freak any chance you could minimize that signature ? it's just a tad bit too big.

Just for you Ali

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

ali had the name ali and clay and still didnt make the list.

He should've made it twice.

Henry Armstrong had something to say about that

name change was right before Liston 2 ,Ali

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Freak any chance you could minimize that signature ? it's just a tad bit too big.

Just for you Ali

You didn't have to change it mate, it was just a tad too big. but thanks for being cool

Ali_1748 wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Freak any chance you could minimize that signature ? it's just a tad bit too big.

Just for you Ali

You didn't have to change it mate, it was just a tad too big. but thanks for being cool

No prob. It's just a pic.