Kenny Florian has hired a wrestling coach, plans to return in five months

I like Kenny and i hope it works out for him.

He should have done this five years ago when Sean Sherk mopped his ass up.

Better late than never.

What Wolf said.

double what wolf said

Sherk owned him so bad it wasnt even funny why not take a hint then?

good luck with that....

There goes Florian deviating from the should be game plan again. Next fight he'll go trying to flaunt his new wrestling and maybe his classic Machida impression and get destroyed by somebody striking and jiu jitsu..his strengths.

What killed Florian was that he was not that good at what is supposed to be one of his stregnths EXAMPLE: Gray Maynard was afraid to take Nate Diaz down because he was afraid he was going to get tapped and probably would have. Nate Diaz is a brown belt. Florian is a "black belt". Florian should maybe spend a little more time on the mat and most wrestlers won't want to put him on his back and it will help his stand up game...but nooooooooo, Florian has to adapt.

Florian need not worry about his opponents strengths. He needs to think of a way to make guys pay for shooting on him but at the end of the day he's just not good at most of the things he's been giving so much credit for being great at.

He changed stances when he fought BJ Penn, then he changed it for his next two fights and he set the tone for the maynard fight by clearly being in a defensive stance. This guy is so confused.

In conclusion, he does not need a wrestling coach. If he has not learned to hug and dry hump properly under Greg Jackson...it's just not his bag.

Kings tisk tisk. The man hasn't worked with a wrestling coach seriously his entire career, and he loses because of his wrestling because of it. Seems like a natural place for a mixed martial artist to go, no? There is nothing saying he isn't going to work defensive wrestling or try to simply make it so that he can fight his fight against Maynard. He couldn't out of the fear of the takedown. Let's ease some of that fear.

Jackson trains Leonard Garcia and GSP. They have their fighters fight to their strengths, not just lay and pray. That is a bad rap.

Further Florian's never been at Jackson...

I imagine Florian has given himself self-talks his entire career akin to what Kings just said here.

I covered that. If he was as good in BJJ as his rank suggests...which he isnt. Maynard would not have gone in to that fight with the sole intention of taking him down and laying on him. Maynard rather had tried his chances slugging it out with Diaz, a guy most thought would win that battle because he did not want any of Nate's guard. Furthermore, this new wrestling coach is not going to help Florian against strong wrestlers like Maynard. Those guys have been doing that all their lives.

Florian is probably a lot closer to having a more dangerous guard then even being close to having any respectable wrestling against somebody like Maynard.

and if Florian kept telling himself to play on his strengths like i said in my post wolf...he would not change with every new fight sometimes for better and sometimes for worse.

This will be Kenny's last run in fighting! I am interested in seeing who he fights in his next two fights?

If Kenny doesn't win his next match in convincing fashion, I expect him to retire.

Kenny has a good/great top BJJ game and absolutely is a black belt, look at the guys he has subbed, but he has never been a good guard fighter his whole career.


Kind of ridiculous to on the one hand criticize a guy for trying to improve his takedown defense and wrestling after he has shown tremendous wreaknesses in those areas fight in fight out, from the perspective of assuming it might cause him to change his gameplan and avoid his strengths, and then in the same breath tell him to change his game plan and avoid his strengths by reinventing himself as the endangered guard player of all things.

It is only because you're such a good poster that I am able to confidently say this is the worst I've ever seen from you and really mean it. I mean it.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Kenny has a good/great top BJJ game and absolutely is a black belt, look at the guys he has subbed, but he has never been a good guard fighter his whole career.


Kind of ridiculous to on the one hand criticize a guy for trying to improve his takedown defense and wrestling after he has shown tremendous wreaknesses in those areas fight in fight out, from the perspective of assuming it might cause him to change his gameplan and avoid his strengths, and then in the same breath tell him to change his game plan and avoid his strengths by reinventing himself as the endangered guard player of all things.

It is only because you're such a good poster that I am able to confidently say this is the worst I've ever seen from you and really mean it. I mean it.

Well when Kenny comes back in 5 months and gets his ass kicked by a wrestler we will talk. Maynard/Edgar loser beats Kenny down all day with 5 months of wrestling practice. So would BJ Penn again.

It's too late for Florian.

call in chael

Take note Team Rough House

Kenny is 34 years old. Little late to start focusing on wrestling. Study all you want Kenny, you won't catch the real wrestlers.

I used to like Florian,but he bores the hell out of me lately.I thought his performance against Penn and Maynard were lame.

How do u get this deep into a high level MMA career without having a wrestling coach?


Too little too late? Maybe, but better late then never is an option as well.