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PostSubject: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 3:00 pm

Taylor drops out after the first round

Green proves to be a terrible replacement

Abraham is DQ'd and could have possibly ruined Dirrell's career

Froch does nothing but complain

Kessler the original favorite drops out due to eye injury

Ward and Dirrell can't agree on venue

Bute arguably the best guy in the division isn't even in the tournament

Who the hell will replace Kessler?

I think the experiment was great for the sport but is proving to be too much of a hassle. I can't imagine networks and promoters wanting to go through this ever again. So enjoy it while it lasts folks.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 3:07 pm

I think I prefer even this imperfect process to where we were.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 3:11 pm

marbleheadmaui wrote:
I think I prefer even this imperfect process to where we were.

I prefer it too. I just think that in the interest of the behind the scenes guys this will prove to be too much of a hassle to be done again. I really hope im wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 3:15 pm

I like the super 6, but a single elimination 8 man tourney would work better. It could be over by almost over by now and we'd have a winner crowned, along with alot of guys who had just faced very good competition (and they'd all be in line for more meaningful fights depending upon tournament performance).
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 3:37 pm

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marbleheadmaui wrote:
I think I prefer even this imperfect process to where we were.

I prefer it too. I just think that in the interest of the behind the scenes guys this will prove to be too much of a hassle to be done again. I really hope im wrong.

The biggest problem is time. Time=unpredictability. They need to compress these into a year.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 3:38 pm

captainanddew wrote:
I like the super 6, but a single elimination 8 man tourney would work better. It could be over by almost over by now and we'd have a winner crowned, along with alot of guys who had just faced very good competition (and they'd all be in line for more meaningful fights depending upon tournament performance).

That may just be a better way to go.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 4:42 pm

The Super 6 was a great idea, that turned out to be flawed, but was ultimately good for boxing. With the round robin style of the tourney, they needed to have the fighters involved at least willing to fight 3 times a year. My biggest complaint is that it has taken far too long.

But in the future, I think future tournaments will be more condensed. Single elimination, and winners and losers brackets would work better IMO...
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 5:09 pm

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marbleheadmaui wrote:
I think I prefer even this imperfect process to where we were.

I prefer it too. I just think that in the interest of the behind the scenes guys this will prove to be too much of a hassle to be done again. I really hope im wrong.

The biggest problem is time. Time=unpredictability. They need to compress these into a year.

My thoughts exactly in the Kessler thread. I have to admit, I made a point to tune in at the beginning but I've really waned in interest as it's gone on.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 6:10 pm

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marbleheadmaui wrote:
I think I prefer even this imperfect process to where we were.

I prefer it too. I just think that in the interest of the behind the scenes guys this will prove to be too much of a hassle to be done again. I really hope im wrong.

The biggest problem is time. Time=unpredictability. They need to compress these into a year.

My thoughts exactly in the Kessler thread. I have to admit, I made a point to tune in at the beginning but I've really waned in interest as it's gone on.

Oh crap, I'm agreeing with THIS guy?

I need a check up from the neck up!
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:12 pm

The benefit of the super six is Showtime now have experience with a big tournament, they'll make adjustments for the next one.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:16 pm

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The benefit of the super six is Showtime now have experience with a big tournament, they'll make adjustments for the next one.

Its not them Im worried about. Its the fighters and promoters the have me fearful of preventing further tournaments. But you're right showtime will have some important experience.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:22 pm

The petty quarrels between the promoters has been disappointing, after the first round of fights all of them began to fear that their guy might not make it to the next stage.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:23 pm

Trivia question: What did this super 6 not include? Hint-it relates to the promotional companies
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:31 pm

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Trivia question: What did this super 6 not include? Hint-it relates to the promotional companies

Putting a stipulation in the contract that forbids Gary Shaw from wearing tracksuits 24/7 ?
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:33 pm

This super 6 does not include any golden boy or top rank fighters
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:34 pm

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Trivia question: What did this super 6 not include? Hint-it relates to the promotional companies


Top Rank or Golden Boy didnt have any worthy fighters for this did they?

Pavlik was still middlewight champ
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:35 pm

Doing another super 6 was already discussed, but Bullshit Bob Arum said no way to 2 of his fighters being included.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:36 pm

No, they didn't have any fighters worthy. But I don't think the super 6 would have ever happened if any of the guys were golden boy or top rank fighters. Signing for multiple fights, means giving away too much control.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:37 pm

captainanddew wrote:
This super 6 does not include any golden boy or top rank fighters

Is Sakio Bika still with Golden Boy ? because he had an opportunity to fight for a place but turned it down.

Librado Andrade is with Golden Boy but he was desperate for a Lucian Bute rematch at the time.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyTue Aug 31, 2010 7:40 pm

Bika I don't believe he is with golden boy. Andrade was on the path to a Bute rematch.

Golden Boy-maybe they would have stepped up if they had a fighter. Top Rank-no way, Arum is an evil motherfucker. If I go to a fight and it is a Top Rank promoted affair, I'm going to give that man a piece of my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyWed Sep 01, 2010 8:00 pm

I think they'll be able to learn from the Super 6 and improve on the model in the future. It's not perfect, but a lot worked and it's still going on. So the idea of having a round robin tourney isn't out of the question.

The issues are it's a promotional/logistical nightmare and finding that much evenly matched quality talent isn't easy. But I think once it's done everyone will assess whether it made business sense. That will be the determining factor.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyFri Oct 08, 2010 11:17 am

Bump. Dirrell just makes another tournament less likely. Shame.
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyFri Oct 08, 2010 12:07 pm

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
The benefit of the super six is Showtime now have experience with a big tournament, they'll make adjustments for the next one.

Its not them Im worried about. Its the fighters and promoters the have me fearful of preventing further tournaments. But you're right showtime will have some important experience.

+1

Showtime knows to address all of this BS from the get go and have it in writing.
Herschman be the end all to any issues that might come up and like you says pointed out, compress it
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptyFri Oct 08, 2010 12:08 pm

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Bika I don't believe he is with golden boy. Andrade was on the path to a Bute rematch.

Golden Boy-maybe they would have stepped up if they had a fighter. Top Rank-no way, Arum is an evil motherfucker. If I go to a fight and it is a Top Rank promoted affair, I'm going to give that man a piece of my mind.

I think Bika and Andrade are both co promoted by GBP

Andrade has Bute's people on his team as well I believe
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PostSubject: Re: will we ever see another super six???   will we ever see another super six??? EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 12:59 pm

From where I sat, we never saw a super six in the first place. "Super" is not a description of any of these fighters nor their fights. Just an opinion.
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