Fedor is expected in Nov

I like Grim as Fedor's 1st opponent. It's not a gimme, Grim has a punchers chance. And a loss to Fedor(unless it's in tim Syliva like fashion) would do nothing to tarnish Grim's image.

Surprised no mention of Overeem.

captain organic wrote:

I like Grim as Fedor's 1st opponent. It's not a gimme, Grim has a punchers chance. And a loss to Fedor(unless it's in tim Syliva like fashion) would do nothing to tarnish Grim's image.

Surprised no mention of Overeem.

I dont see them giving Grim to Fedor his first fight in Strikeforce. He maybe in against a middle of the pack guy first and then Grim.

Fedor will fight Overeem. Any other fight would be heavily criticized. Give Rogers and Werdum some Japanese judo no names. Save them for Fedor.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Fedor will fight Overeem. Any other fight would be heavily criticized. Give Rogers and Werdum some Japanese judo no names. Save them for Fedor.

I agree with that 100 percent.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Fedor will fight Overeem. Any other fight would be heavily criticized. Give Rogers and Werdum some Japanese judo no names. Save them for Fedor.

You think Grim would draw criticism? He did just crush AA. I have no interest in Werdum vs Fedor. The guys stand up is weak, and if Nog couldn't sub Fedor, Werdum is not going to sub Fedor.

His stand up isn't bad, he's just not a very good athlete and isn't as explosive as others.

Fedor is the champion. Overeem should be his first fight, and it should be marketed as Overeem challenging Fedor. Strikeforce is making a serious mistake in presenting Fedor as someone who has to earn a fight with a guy who is only 18 months of success above a journeyman, someone the UFC didn't even want when they merger went down.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

His stand up isn't bad, he's just not a very good athlete and isn't as explosive as others.

Fedor is the champion. Overeem should be his first fight, and it should be marketed as Overeem challenging Fedor. Strikeforce is making a serious mistake in presenting Fedor as someone who has to earn a fight with a guy who is only 18 months of success above a journeyman, someone the UFC didn't even want when they merger went down.

But you can't do that, you don't just take the belt away from one guy and give it to another without him ever fighting for it. Strip Overeem. That's cool, and then have Fedor fight for the vacant belt vs whomever.

Strikeforce can promote Fedor for what he is, the p4p king. That carries alot more weight then the strikeforce belt anyway.

captain organic wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

His stand up isn't bad, he's just not a very good athlete and isn't as explosive as others.

Fedor is the champion. Overeem should be his first fight, and it should be marketed as Overeem challenging Fedor. Strikeforce is making a serious mistake in presenting Fedor as someone who has to earn a fight with a guy who is only 18 months of success above a journeyman, someone the UFC didn't even want when they merger went down.

But you can't do that, you don't just take the belt away from one guy and give it to another without him ever fighting for it. Strip Overeem. That's cool, and then have Fedor fight for the vacant belt vs whomever.

Strikeforce can promote Fedor for what he is, the p4p king. That carries alot more weight then the strikeforce belt anyway.

Yeah u cant give him Grim first. Although Grim isnt the champ he probably should be. U dont want Fedor coming in and beating ur best fighter right off the bat. Thats why I think u give him Overeem or Werdum first and Grim second or third to build it up alittle more. Remember Casual fans really dont know why Bret Rogers is. Put him on a undercard with Fedor and then let them fight. Boxing does it all the time and it works.

Overeem isn't fighting Fedor first. Scott Coker said he is trying to build this fight up for a card on CBS in the Spring of next year.

timthebim wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

His stand up isn't bad, he's just not a very good athlete and isn't as explosive as others.

Fedor is the champion. Overeem should be his first fight, and it should be marketed as Overeem challenging Fedor. Strikeforce is making a serious mistake in presenting Fedor as someone who has to earn a fight with a guy who is only 18 months of success above a journeyman, someone the UFC didn't even want when they merger went down.

But you can't do that, you don't just take the belt away from one guy and give it to another without him ever fighting for it. Strip Overeem. That's cool, and then have Fedor fight for the vacant belt vs whomever.

Strikeforce can promote Fedor for what he is, the p4p king. That carries alot more weight then the strikeforce belt anyway.

Yeah u cant give him Grim first. Although Grim isnt the champ he probably should be. U dont want Fedor coming in and beating ur best fighter right off the bat. Thats why I think u give him Overeem or Werdum first and Grim second or third to build it up alittle more. Remember Casual fans really dont know why Bret Rogers is. Put him on a undercard with Fedor and then let them fight. Boxing does it all the time and it works.

As a big Grim fan, and a proponent of buildup fights, I'd be all for the build up fight. Fedor vs Werdum for the Vacant belt? I guess.

How bout Fedor just fights the entire crowd.

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

Overeem isn't fighting Fedor first. Scott Coker said he is trying to build this fight up for a card on CBS in the Spring of next year.

So who u think he fights first Ninja

timthebim wrote:

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

Overeem isn't fighting Fedor first. Scott Coker said he is trying to build this fight up for a card on CBS in the Spring of next year.

So who u think he fights first Ninja

Werdum. Then they will match up Rogers with Overeem on the same card.

That dont sound bad at all.

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

timthebim wrote:

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

Overeem isn't fighting Fedor first. Scott Coker said he is trying to build this fight up for a card on CBS in the Spring of next year.

So who u think he fights first Ninja

Werdum. Then they will match up Rogers with Overeem on the same card.

So they have a stable of 3 name heavies for whom they can throw at Fedor and they are going to square two(the best two) of them off against each other? Im not down with that strategy.