Overeem confirms what Wolf said all along.

Fedor's hand speed is 20 times that of Shane fucking Carwin. Fedor has been boxing for his whole life and his style to the uneducated(you, BBC, fellow man milking child molesting cock squatters) seems plodding but it's actually quite technical. Google "sambo punch" or "casting punch" to learn more. Do your homework before you spew this idiocy over this forum. Dis fucking missed.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Wolf you have proved to me that I shouldn't even have a conversation about Fedor anymore. You close your eyes and plug your ears up and forget the truth.

The truth that Fedor's opponent's records are constantly ripped apart with a fine tooth comb? The fact Overeem gained 40 pounds of solid muscle in two years? The fact Overeem had never beaten a top 25 HW in his career until Rogers?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Wolf you have proved to me that I shouldn't even have a conversation about Fedor anymore. You close your eyes and plug your ears up and forget the truth.

The truth that Fedor's opponent's records are constantly ripped apart with a fine tooth comb? The fact Overeem gained 40 pounds of solid muscle in two years? The fact Overeem had never beaten a top 25 HW in his career until Rogers?

That's not the point. The point is Fedor wants a fight with Reem after he stated he was going to compete in the K-1 grand prix. Reem hasn't ducked Fedor, but Fedor has ducked Reem. You act like he never has. That is what you and I are talking about. I agree with you on Carwin and Fedor's boxing.

Is ducking declining a fight that is below you? Then he's ducked every HW who didn't deserve a fight with him that's called him out. Lashley asked for a Fedor fight too.


Fedor ducked Lashley. Stop the presses.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Is ducking declining a fight that is below you? Then he's ducked every HW who didn't deserve a fight with him that's called him out. Lashley asked for a Fedor fight too.


Fedor ducked Lashley. Stop the presses.

What about when Fedor knew Werdum was out, and the SF champion had dismantled Grim in worse fashion then he did? Fedor was asked for a fight then and he said he only wated a fight with Werdum and then hinted at a fight with Bigfoot and Sergei. Then not even a week after Reem says he is going for the K1 grand prix Fedor comes knocking. Stop the presses!!!

You're really going to attribute Fedor declining to fight a guy who has gained 40 pounds of muscle and racked up a single relevant win, ever to "ducking" in the classic sense immediately off his first loss in a 10+ year career because he was interested in a rematch? That is "ducking"?

BBC you have an opinion of Fedor. A negative one. And you share this compulsion to bring him down to the point you'll bend the evidence to make it say whatever you want.

The only fighter with a track record of ducking anyone is Overeem. After Overeem had raised his profile and established his name in Strikeforce M-1 was suddenly very interested in this fight. Had Fedor beaten Werdum, this fight would be scheduled for October on PPV.

OK Wolf. Fedor didn't duck anyone and he didn't take less money to fight in SF. I am sure your right. He went there to manhandle the superior competition and use the juggernaut promotion machine that is Strikeforce, to better promote the M-1 Global brand. If only Randy Couture had his business acumen and competitive nature...

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

OK Wolf. Fedor didn't duck anyone and he didn't take less money to fight in SF. I am sure your right. He went there to manhandle the superior competition and use the juggernaut promotion machine that is Strikeforce, to better promote the M-1 Global brand. If only Randy Couture had his business acumen and competitive nature...

Wolf is so far gone it is pathetic. I know Reem has done some ducking, but not in the past year. He has came out and challenged him and even got into an internet war with M-1. For the last 12 months it has been Fedor that hasn't wanted a fight with Reem until Reem made a commitment a week ago. Wolf will say anything to protect Fedor's image like I used to do. I see thru all the bullshit that the GOAT has become now. I know for a fact now that Fedor will never step foot in the UFC because of what he has done since Pride passed away.

Fedor has never declined a fight for competitive reasons other than an opponent not yet being his level...like Overeem. He's never declined a fight out of fear of a loss. He didn't go to the UFC but it had nothing to do with the caliber of fighters there. That inclination is asinine and false and everyone knows it. Unless they have an agenda.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

You're really going to attribute Fedor declining to fight a guy who has gained 40 pounds of muscle and racked up a single relevant win, ever to "ducking" in the classic sense immediately off his first loss in a 10+ year career because he was interested in a rematch? That is "ducking"?

BBC you have an opinion of Fedor. A negative one. And you share this compulsion to bring him down to the point you'll bend the evidence to make it say whatever you want.

The only fighter with a track record of ducking anyone is Overeem. After Overeem had raised his profile and established his name in Strikeforce M-1 was suddenly very interested in this fight. Had Fedor beaten Werdum, this fight would be scheduled for October on PPV.

Yeah I am bending evidence and you keep bringing up a 40lbs weight gain in two years. lol WTF does that have to do with anything when Reem already passed his test months back? Stop reaching and atleast admit that Fedor is a hostage of M-1. We may give you that???

Wolf you are so full of Fedor shit you could probably fart the word communism.

Dude I'm a huge Fedor fan, but "Reem called him out before the Werdum fight and Fedor "ducked him, Alistair already committed to the K1 tourney and I'm not faulting him for not accepting this fight right now.

yah, i don't know why i had quotations on that one...

killerofchicken wrote:

yah, i don't know why i had quotations on that one...

It's okay because you are right with what you said. Wolf will bring up some bullshit that makes it okay for what Fedor has done to his fans since he has signed with SF.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

yah, i don't know why i had quotations on that one...

It's okay because you are right with what you said. Wolf will bring up some bullshit that makes it okay for what Fedor has done to his fans since he has signed with SF.

Wolf cant help but be a homer though, cant fault him for that lmao
I don't blame Alistair for this one... I'd like to see him in K1 anyways, after he beats Werdum sometime early in 2011, and after Fedor beats Bigfoot, then they can meet... Just my opinion and i don't see why they can't do it this way.

I mean, Alistair has always been interested in K1, and he said, if he had no fights scheduled for the winter, he'd do K1... all the sudden we have Fedor call him out at exactly the time K1 is supposed to take place, and whats with the blood testing?

Overeem had no business calling out Fedor before he defended his Strikeforce title when HW's have been standing in that cage calling Overeem out for years. Who the fuck was Alistar Overeem.

Nevermind, Fedor was chicken to fight that glass chinned roid monkey. This is pathetic.

The timing is suspicious IMO...

After years of watching MMA, I firmly believe that it is rare to see guys ducking one another. I think Alistair would have taken this fight before Fedor's loss to Werdum, but now he probably thinks it's a lose-lose scenario. Probably also a way at thumbing M-1. I wish Alistair would just take this fight, but I can't believe he's avoiding it out of fear.

One odd thing is that he trains with Gegard Mousasi, a friend of Fedor's. I wonder who Gegard would corner?

boomer sooner wrote:

After years of watching MMA, I firmly believe that it is rare to see guys ducking one another. I think Alistair would have taken this fight before Fedor's loss to Werdum, but now he probably thinks it's a lose-lose scenario. Probably also a way at thumbing M-1. I wish Alistair would just take this fight, but I can't believe he's avoiding it out of fear.

One odd thing is that he trains with Gegard Mousasi, a friend of Fedor's. I wonder who Gegard would corner?

You have no proof of Reem being scared with the exception of what Wolf is saying. Fedor is the scared one if anybody.

You have severe feelings of inadequacy to get off on trying to bring figures like Fedor down to your level.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Fedor has never declined a fight for competitive reasons other than an opponent not yet being his level...like Overeem. He's never declined a fight out of fear of a loss. He didn't go to the UFC but it had nothing to do with the caliber of fighters there. That inclination is asinine and false and everyone knows it. Unless they have an agenda.

And again I say HMC? Brett Rogers? And an underweight Lindland? He hadn't had a real fight before Werdum, who I said would lose, since he fough CC 5 years back. So pardon my pucker if I do not agree with your asinine thought process.

+1 drew

How do you like the new gif and avatar BBC?

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

How do you like the new gif and avatar BBC?

I saw it the other day when I clicked on the senorgif link you have. Daddy likes!

Those fights sucked, but those were a long time ago. Every fighter has something if he drag the bottom long enough you can criticize on, but what you're bashing Fedor for isn't a product of the evidence, but rather you twisting the evidence to say what you want to believe. That Fedor is a fraud or is ducking other fighters. Why? Who knows.