Bute: either fight Pascal or enter the Super 6

If Hershman is willing to pay Bute what he has made on his last couple of HBO fights (around a million bucks per)- Bute should take Kessler's place and have at cleaning out the division. We all know Bute would KO Green easily.

Bute should either push for this, or fight Pascal. If he does neither he will come out looking poorly.

I concur.

it would be nice if bute could even fight green even if he didnt advance. bute just needs to stay active until people are out of the tournament.

Green= Jesse Brinkley

I just don't get why a guy MUST move up in weight or be considered acting poorly. Just baffles me.

But if he doesn't make a seriopus effort to get into the Super Six? That's a problem. n

I cant believe Bute is catching any heat at all...smh

If they move forward with the semis next means the champ will be crowned early part of 2011

Have enough time to take on other top SMWs early 2011 or wait for champ later in 2011

gomez1012 wrote:

I cant believe Bute is catching any heat at all...smh

If they move forward with the semis next means the champ will be crowned early part of 2011

Have enough time to take on other top SMWs early 2011 or wait for champ later in 2011

with Kessler and Bute out of this tourny, the winner can not be called the champ.

Who will Bute fight over the next year ? He has Brinkley next month, he's already Kayoed Bika,Miranda, and Andrade- that leaves Stieglitz (who thus far has shown no interest) and Pavlik. Banking on making a fight with either of those guys is a risky proposition.

Perhaps HBO already has something in the works.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

I just don't get why a guy MUST move up in weight or be considered acting poorly. Just baffles me.

But if he doesn't make a seriopus effort to get into the Super Six? That's a problem. n

We went over this the other day Marble, nothing else is out there for Bute at the moment other than meaningless mandatories and Kelly Pavlik.

STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT !!! That's my motto.

Canvas wrote:

with Kessler and Bute out of this tourny, the winner can not be called the champ.

Who will Bute fight over the next year ? He has Brinkley next month, he's already Kayoed Bika,Miranda, and Andrade- that leaves Stieglitz (who thus far has shown no interest) and Pavlik. Banking on making a fight with either of those guys is a risky proposition.

Perhaps HBO already has something in the works.

I meant TOURNAMENT Champ, obviously not of the division

Bute can take on Brinkley in October

If the plans moves forward as rumored, Froch vs Abraham will have happened on 10/2, one will be available bc he will be eliminated, same for Dirrell-Ward

Fight either of those in early part of 2011, Green still out there, or some other contender

Then the Tournament winner end of 2011

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

I just don't get why a guy MUST move up in weight or be considered acting poorly. Just baffles me.

But if he doesn't make a seriopus effort to get into the Super Six? That's a problem. n

We went over this the other day Marble, nothing else is out there for Bute at the moment other than meaningless mandatories and Kelly Pavlik.

STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT !!! That's my motto.

And you haven't gotten any more persuasive

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

I just don't get why a guy MUST move up in weight or be considered acting poorly. Just baffles me.

But if he doesn't make a seriopus effort to get into the Super Six? That's a problem. n

We went over this the other day Marble, nothing else is out there for Bute at the moment other than meaningless mandatories and Kelly Pavlik.

STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT !!! That's my motto.

And you haven't gotten any more persuasive

I am not really a crafty debater, especially over the internet, face to face maybe I'd be better

Yeah come get KTFO by Green. Green needs a big win.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

I just don't get why a guy MUST move up in weight or be considered acting poorly. Just baffles me.

But if he doesn't make a seriopus effort to get into the Super Six? That's a problem. n

We went over this the other day Marble, nothing else is out there for Bute at the moment other than meaningless mandatories and Kelly Pavlik.

STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT !!! That's my motto.

And you haven't gotten any more persuasive

I am not really a crafty debater, especially over the internet, face to face maybe I'd be better

How have you got to the age you are and not became a masterdebater?

I agree Marble. There is a ton of great fights to be made at 168. Stay active against the best outside of the super 6 and be ready to take on guys coming out of it.

What some of oyu guys are not seeing is that Bute and Pascal are the same size. It's just a matter of how much they have to dry out before weigh in.

Canvas wrote:

What some of oyu guys are not seeing is that Bute and Pascal are the same size. It's just a matter of how much they have to dry out before weigh in.

So what?

so what's the problem with them fighting ? who cares about weight limits ? Pascal has a legit title, and the weight will not place either at a disadvantage. It's a big fight and it makes perfect sense.

It is an evenly matched, intriguing fight between two of the sports top prime fighters who share the same town. We're not talking about Khan vs JMM here.

Canvas wrote:

so what's the problem with them fighting ? who cares about weight limits ? Pascal has a legit title, and the weight will not place either at a disadvantage. It's a big fight and it makes perfect sense.

It is an evenly matched, intriguing fight between two of the sports top prime fighters who share the same town. We're not talking about Khan vs JMM here.

I care! I KNOW what Bute is having to reach 168 AND FIGHT OTHERS WHO HAVE TO DO THE SAME.

Hell let's just abandon the divisions, they're just an inconvenience!~

brute in the next 18 months will fight 2 of the super 6 guys.im not complaing if he stays out of the super 6 thing.hell fight them in due time i guess..why the crtisism..joe frazier got no backlash when he declined to be in the elimination tourney of the top 8 heavys to fight for the vacant crown when ali was stripped of the title and his lisence to fight..frazier backed out and choze to fight buster manthis who wasnt ranked for the pennsylvania and ny state version of a phoney HW title..jimmy ellis won the tourney and thats why i considered him to be the real legit champ and lineal champ since the commisions involentarly retired ali..

dmar5143 wrote:

..why the crtisism..joe frazier got no backlash when he declined to be in the elimination tourney of the top 8 heavys to fight for the vacant crown when ali was stripped of the title and his lisence to fight..frazier backed out and choze to fight buster manthis who wasnt ranked for the pennsylvania and ny state version of a phoney HW title

Because he deserves the criticism. And I'm quite sure Frazier received some criticism from pockets of hardcore fans, there was just no medium to convey it - no internet.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Canvas wrote:

so what's the problem with them fighting ? who cares about weight limits ? Pascal has a legit title, and the weight will not place either at a disadvantage. It's a big fight and it makes perfect sense.

It is an evenly matched, intriguing fight between two of the sports top prime fighters who share the same town. We're not talking about Khan vs JMM here.

I care! I KNOW what Bute is having to reach 168 AND FIGHT OTHERS WHO HAVE TO DO THE SAME.

Hell let's just abandon the divisions, they're just an inconvenience!~

that doesn't make an ounce of sense to me, as I stated- they are the same size. We just plain disagree.

captainanddew wrote:

I agree Marble. There is a ton of great fights to be made at 168. Stay active against the best outside of the super 6 and be ready to take on guys coming out of it.

There isn't a ton of great fights to make at Super Middleweight for Bute other than Pavlik and pointless mandatories.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

I just don't get why a guy MUST move up in weight or be considered acting poorly. Just baffles me.

But if he doesn't make a seriopus effort to get into the Super Six? That's a problem. n

We went over this the other day Marble, nothing else is out there for Bute at the moment other than meaningless mandatories and Kelly Pavlik.

STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT !!! That's my motto.

i believe a Slick poster said that one.

SlickMoneyXL wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

I just don't get why a guy MUST move up in weight or be considered acting poorly. Just baffles me.

But if he doesn't make a seriopus effort to get into the Super Six? That's a problem. n

We went over this the other day Marble, nothing else is out there for Bute at the moment other than meaningless mandatories and Kelly Pavlik.

STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT !!! That's my motto.

i believe a Slick poster said that one.

We'll co promote it

Assuming the tourney isn't reconfigured, he'll still have a quality opponent after beating Brinkley and Mendy (assuming Green doesn't look terrible if he's the odd man out). Kessler said he's not done, so maybe he heals and takes a tune up and then goes after Bute.

It would be cool if he went for it, but I wouldn't hate Bute for being patient. And I'm intrigued by Pascal v. BHop even though I'd love a Canadian throwdown.