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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:23 am | |
| Mo and Mousasi aren't not top 10 in my eyes. They both still have work to do. Plenty of talent there but they aren't ready for the big boys of LHW yet. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:24 am | |
| Well thats what i was thinking about Mo until he beat Gergard. I actually thought Mousasi was ready for a big step up until Mo beat him. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:26 am | |
| - OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- Mo and Mousasi aren't not top 10 in my eyes. They both still have work to do. Plenty of talent there but they aren't ready for the big boys of LHW yet.
I think the lhw's in SF are better. All are top ten now. Mo, gregard, and Rafeal. | |
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:28 am | |
| - bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
- OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- Mo and Mousasi aren't not top 10 in my eyes. They both still have work to do. Plenty of talent there but they aren't ready for the big boys of LHW yet.
I think the lhw's in SF are better. All are top ten now. Mo, gregard, and Rafeal.
You may be right....but I doubt it | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:29 am | |
| - bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
- OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- Mo and Mousasi aren't not top 10 in my eyes. They both still have work to do. Plenty of talent there but they aren't ready for the big boys of LHW yet.
I think the lhw's in SF are better. All are top ten now. Mo, gregard, and Rafeal.
Come on Beast have u been drinking tonight LOL???? | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:31 am | |
| What a lifeless card. That place was dead the whole night | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:41 am | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
- OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- Mo and Mousasi aren't not top 10 in my eyes. They both still have work to do. Plenty of talent there but they aren't ready for the big boys of LHW yet.
I think the lhw's in SF are better. All are top ten now. Mo, gregard, and Rafeal.
Come on Beast have u been drinking tonight LOL???? Ummmm yes and alot! I have had 9 beers. Pretty drunk and my wife was bitching at me because I just started taking some blood pressure meds. I have been a good boy and haven't been drinking at all though. It was fight night and I deserved it. Raaaaaaaargh! | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:42 am | |
| Oh 3 of them were tall boys too. lol | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:42 am | |
| Rafael Cavalcante was a blue chip prospect during his time in EliteXC and at that point he was mentioned in the same breath as rising Brazilian fighters Thiago Silva and Lyoto Machida.
Unfortunately then the promotional malpractice of EliteXC caused Feijao to be including in that list of fighters held in a near year long cryostasis. That contributed to the loss to the hold-up-this-dude-looks-like-a-top-five-pure-striker Mike Kyle.
Feijao is legit. This division is legit. We've got Henderson, Babalu, Mousasi, Mo and Feijao at the top. It's not the UFC but it's good and getting better.
Strikeforce is major league MMA. *
*major league mma with horrible production...yeesh. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:43 am | |
| Sounds awesome have fun u deserve them LOL. Now when u get down go lay on ur wife like Brock Lesnar would do LOL. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:44 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Rafael Cavalcante was a blue chip prospect during his time in EliteXC and at that point he was mentioned in the same breath as rising Brazilian fighters Thiago Silva and Lyoto Machida.
Unfortunately then the promotional malpractice of EliteXC caused Feijao to be including in that list of fighters held in a near year long cryostasis. That contributed to the loss to the hold-up-this-dude-looks-like-a-top-five-pure-striker Mike Kyle.
Feijao is legit. This division is legit. We've got Henderson, Babalu, Mousasi, Mo and Feijao at the top. It's not the UFC but it's good and getting better.
Strikeforce is major league MMA. *
*major league mma with horrible production...yeesh. Ur right Wolf they have alot of talent but it doesnt match the UFC just yet. Feijao looked awesome tonight though. | |
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:44 am | |
| SF does have some very nice LHW talent. Plenty of good guy in the 11-20 range in the division. But the UFC still has the cream of that division. Give a couple of these guys another year or two and we will probably have a different story. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:47 am | |
| So do they just hand Mousasi a title shot next or will he actually have to beat somebody? (assuming Hendo-Babalu gets made) | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:49 am | |
| Yo I am sorry but Mo, Gegard or Feijao would all hang with cats like Rampage, Rashad Evans, Forrest Griffin, Rich Franklin, Thiago Silva, Ryan Bader, Jason Brilz, Minotoro or any other UFC LHW you can name with a case to be in the top ten(except Machida and Super-Shogun) | |
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:52 am | |
| Not so fast my friend! I disagree. I feel better about my earlier thoughts about Mo and Mousasi. I'm out this bitch, just wanted to do a little bragging. Maybe I will have to eat crow one day...just not today. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:53 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Yo I am sorry but Mo, Gegard or Feijao would all hang with cats like Rampage, Rashad Evans, Forrest Griffin, Rich Franklin, Thiago Silva, Ryan Bader, Jason Brilz, Minotoro or any other UFC LHW you can name with a case to be in the top ten(except Machida and Super-Shogun)
They can hang Wolf probably but what should we rank them on?? They havent beaten alot of top talent while the UFC guys fight each other every fight who we pretty much know for sure are all top 10 talents. Problem is just about the time MO, Mousasi, and Feijao make big names for themselves Dana will swing by and snatch them up. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:57 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Yo I am sorry but Mo, Gegard or Feijao would all hang with cats like Rampage, Rashad Evans, Forrest Griffin, Rich Franklin, Thiago Silva, Ryan Bader, Jason Brilz, Minotoro or any other UFC LHW you can name with a case to be in the top ten(except Machida and Super-Shogun)
I agree! | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:58 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Yo I am sorry but Mo, Gegard or Feijao would all hang with cats like Rampage, Rashad Evans, Forrest Griffin, Rich Franklin, Thiago Silva, Ryan Bader, Jason Brilz, Minotoro or any other UFC LHW you can name with a case to be in the top ten(except Machida and Super-Shogun)
Sorry I dont think they hang with Bones right now either. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:03 am | |
| Well Lashley-Batista looks pretty likely after tonight. Not that anyone cares | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:14 am | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- Well Lashley-Batista looks pretty likely after tonight. Not that anyone cares
My kids will love it. I hope they put it on a good card so they will be down to wath another card with me. lol | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:15 am | |
| The ref who stood up that fight when Lashley had him mounted should be fucking shot. Some awful officiating tonight. Get some people in there who know what the fuck they're doing | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:29 am | |
| Lashley still showed good takedowns and control ability. He's raw. Not all these wrestlers are going to develop at the same pace. Some are like Cormier, Bones, Lesnar and Cain and others are like Rashad and Koscheck. They didn't develop nearly as fast.
They didn't lose to bums dug out of the local circuit either though. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:38 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Lashley still showed good takedowns and control ability. He's raw. Not all these wrestlers are going to develop at the same pace. Some are like Cormier, Bones, Lesnar and Cain and others are like Rashad and Koscheck. They didn't develop nearly as fast.
They didn't lose to bums dug out of the local circuit either though. Yeah but I could tell Lashley didn't have what some of them have. Cormier started around the same time and I think he would beat Lashley. Brock and Cain two years ago would take Lashley of today imo. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:45 am | |
| A Babalu-Feijao title fight would be too far fetched. Use him right now off that Lawler win, this lets them make a bout between Henderson and Mousasi. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Free Strikeforce Undercard on Sherdog Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:48 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- A Babalu-Feijao title fight would be too far fetched. Use him right now off that Lawler win, this lets them make a bout between Henderson and Mousasi.
Give Mo a rematch and give babalu the boot. He sucks! Make Hendo and Gregard fight for sure. | |
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