Mousasi disproves the rumors

JB: Were you offered and not told about an offer from UFC? Is there a rift between you and your management?

GM: There was no offer from the UFC. There were never negotiations about me going to the UFC. I have a 2 fight deal with DREAM. Even if I wanted to fight in the UFC it wouldn't have happened, I have also signed with EA games and I don't think the UFC is very happy about that. There was no chance I'd go to the UFC. Strikeforce and DREAM let me fight in other organizations, that was the best deal for me.

JB: To dispel all rumors, Is there any difficulty between you and your management at M-1?

GM: No.

I have a feeling he is speaking the company line here and leaving out some details.

And we will likely never know. I do hope that we see him in the UFC, sooner than later. I'm in the group that would rather see Mousasi there than Fedor.

LikesToFightGuy wrote:

And we will likely never know. I do hope that we see him in the UFC, sooner than later. I'm in the group that would rather see Mousasi there than Fedor.

What group is this? ahahahahah

Group would indicate plural. You're all alone there buddy.

Hey, I didn't say it was a big group. And my opinion alone is worth five votes and you know it. You know what... It may be two weeks late, but I don't think a two day poll on the topic is out of line. And since you are the pole master, you could set that up, right?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

LikesToFightGuy wrote:

And we will likely never know. I do hope that we see him in the UFC, sooner than later. I'm in the group that would rather see Mousasi there than Fedor.

What group is this? ahahahahah

Group would indicate plural. You're all alone there buddy.

He has Farmer to keep him company https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/mma-f1/i-m-more-pissed-off-about-mousasi-then-fedor-t569.htm

SEEEEE!!!

That still isn't a group really, that is usually used to indicate more than two, I think "couple" suits them better, for more reasons than one...

ha ha Wolfy ain't playin today. Let me guess you were never allowed to go to recess because you don't play?

Ya that's right boyyyeeeeee


actually I wasn't allowed to go to recess because I was usually in trouble for being too gangsta, u kno.

Wolf, you're about as gangster as Fleav...

I think you'd be surprised at how many people could care less about Fedor in the UFC at this point.

The only way they'd care less is if A. they're just temporarily burnt out on the issue, or B. they don't even know who he is and thus arent worth talking to anyway.

Wolf is down

If I had to choose one I would want Fedor in the UFC over Mousasi. My point was Fedor still has 3 fights out there for him. Mousasi has Babalu and maybe Lil Nog if he doesn't sign with the UFC.

In my case, the constant game wears on me. His arrogance isn't even matched by Dana and that's saying a lot. The fact that he can't get off the cross promotion issue is a joke. At this point, I really don't care if he ever lands in the UFC. I will just watch him shred lesser talents elsewhere until he changes his attitude... But like many, I'm afraid he might be well past his prime before he lands there. Now, Mousasi I want to see because I think he can add a ton to the LHW picture and I don't think he will be unsignable when that time comes.

LTFG, he is contractually obligated to M-1. He couldn't sign with the UFC on their terms if he wanted to.

He is M1... I think with his pull he could do whatever he wants. We can argue the merits of this contract and his relationship with M1 and Fink all day long... But remember one thing, contracts are simply words and signatures on a piece of paper meant to be renegotiated at any given time. EVERYONE in the sports world renegotiates their contracts, and none of them hold any ownership rights...

I blame Fedor for not stepping up and taking the easy way out by not telling them to fuck off... And I don't know what the final terms of the UFC's offer were money wise, but if it was even close to what was being reported than he could just scratch his breach fee off in one quick stroke!

Give me Mousasi my boy...

BTW - What exactly is M1 promoting? All they are doing is exhibitions and low level fighters "representing" their countries. It's actually pretty unwatchable.

Oh yes, the big bad M-1 putting a gun to their fighters head. Do you get sticky hugging UFC's nuts? UFC was already being bitches about EA. UFC would not continue to let him fight in DREAM and then he was contractually obligated to M-1. Joe Silva even said there was no offer. Yet, M-1 are somehow crooked jews when it comes to Mousasi.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Oh yes, the big bad M-1 putting a gun to their fighters head. Do you get sticky hugging UFC's nuts? UFC was already being bitches about EA. UFC would not continue to let him fight in DREAM and then he was contractually obligated to M-1. Joe Silva even said there was no offer. Yet, M-1 are somehow crooked jews when it comes to Mousasi.

The UFC did EVERYTHING but offer to blow Fedor before each fight, build him a monument and bend on the one thing that they are against, co-promoting. They are the big dogs and they know it. They have the best talent, the best exposure and the biggest stage. Now why should they have bent on the final demand? Obviously they don't think Fedor is bigger than the brand and worth the headache. And Fedor seems to think he is bigger than the brand and worth the headache.

Now, take your homer goggles off and look at it from a business point of view. You are running a company that is the biggest and most profitable of its kind... You are Miscrosoft. You are interested in acquiring a new operating system even though all of your others have been a success, continue to work and are still making you huge bank. You know even though it may only have a two year shelf life it could increase your profits by 10% during that time. Problem is the designer of the new OS wants twice as much money as everyone else and wants to also share the OS with Apple. He then wants to sleep with Mrs. Gates, wear Apple patches on his tights, and wants to decide who's homes you're going to sell his product in... Seriously...Who's being unreasonable here?

I take my silly "good guy bad guy" moral goggles off and I see that two business interests could not come to an agreement.

LikesToFightGuy wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Oh yes, the big bad M-1 putting a gun to their fighters head. Do you get sticky hugging UFC's nuts? UFC was already being bitches about EA. UFC would not continue to let him fight in DREAM and then he was contractually obligated to M-1. Joe Silva even said there was no offer. Yet, M-1 are somehow crooked jews when it comes to Mousasi.

The UFC did EVERYTHING but offer to blow Fedor before each fight, build him a monument and bend on the one thing that they are against, co-promoting. They are the big dogs and they know it. They have the best talent, the best exposure and the biggest stage. Now why should they have bent on the final demand? Obviously they don't think Fedor is bigger than the brand and worth the headache. And Fedor seems to think he is bigger than the brand and worth the headache.

Now, take your homer goggles off and look at it from a business point of view. You are running a company that is the biggest and most profitable of its kind... You are Miscrosoft. You are interested in acquiring a new operating system even though all of your others have been a success, continue to work and are still making you huge bank. You know even though it may only have a two year shelf life it could increase your profits by 10% during that time. Problem is the designer of the new OS wants twice as much money as everyone else and wants to also share the OS with Apple. He then wants to sleep with Mrs. Gates, wear Apple patches on his tights, and wants to decide who's homes you're going to sell his product in... Seriously...Who's being unreasonable here?

I was talking to the OP and what i said had nothing to do with Fedor and it was about Mousasi, and i don't think i was being unreasonable.

I have no problem with how UFC does business. If they don't co-promote, they don't co-promote. But that is what Fedor and M-1 wanted from the start. They did not want a blow job before the fight. They did not care about their 4-1 champion who a bunch of idiots think is some ultimate boss to Fedor's legacy. They did not care about the money UFC was offering, even though not you, or me know what the deal was so it's pretty ridiculous to assume it was the greatest offer ever. M-1 and Fedor(M-1 employee) wanted co-promotion. Why is it understanable that UFC would not want to co-promote but not understandable that M-1 who has the best fighter in the world would want to co-promote? If co-promoting is bad business for UFC then not co-promoting is bad business for M-1. They gain virtually nothing out of Fedor being exclusive to UFC and if im a promoter of a company im trying to grow and i have the best fighter in the world under contract. I want to get something out of it that will be of huge benifit to my company and UFC was not willing to do that. That's what happens when you go after fighters who are under contract to somebody else you have to deal with them and they are going to look out for themselves. I don't know why so many people act like M-1 are some dirty mob because they didnt go piss up a rope and let UFC bend them over and get their best fighter without giving them compensation because they are too good for it. Fedor is honoring a contract. Im not a Fedor homer, but im not a UFC homer. I'm an MMA guy. I completley understand why UFC did not want to co-promote from a business perspective, but i don't see why people can't understand why M-1 and Fedor wanted co-promotion from a business perspective. They got what they wanted somewhere else, so M-1 did the right thing from a business perspective.