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PostSubject: Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D   Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D EmptyWed Aug 18, 2010 1:32 pm

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Hearing now that Marcos Maidana is being kicked around as a name for Andre Berto on that Oct. 2nd “Boxing After Dark” tripleheader. Meanwhile, I was told that Ricardo Mayorga was rejected by HBO as a possibility for Sergiy Dzinziruk.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/main-lead/the-first-lady-of-promoting-kathy-duva

And a good read on Kathy Duva of Main Events on her promoting strategy w/HBO and GBP running (ruining) things


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PostSubject: Re: Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D   Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D EmptyWed Aug 18, 2010 1:34 pm

Thank God!

But I have a serious question. Can NOBODY fight in their own division anymore?

Pascal becomes the man at 175 and the logical choice is a 168?

Berto can't find a welter to fight?
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Aint much really out there. Mike Jones and Clottey are the only welters i can think of right now.
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
Thank God!

But I have a serious question. Can NOBODY fight in their own division anymore?

Pascal becomes the man at 175 and the logical choice is a 168?

Berto can't find a welter to fight?

Thats what Im saying, wtf is going on

I know talent pool is thin, but its not that bad!

Aydin, Cintron, Bailey, Delvin Rodriguez, Mike Jones, Abregu -- all would make for good WW opponents for Berto


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PostSubject: Re: Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D   Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D EmptyWed Aug 18, 2010 1:56 pm

cintron said yesterday he wants berto but next year cause hes taking the rest of the year off and hbo might be skeptical after his flying act. berto turned aydin down soit would be great to get an hispaniola battle between delvin and berto.
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Will Maidana catch Berto? I have mixed feelings on this one.
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this would be a great fight...at 140. berto's going to beat maidana bad at 147.
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PostSubject: Re: Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D   Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D EmptyWed Aug 18, 2010 2:15 pm

again mosley said yes but berto wanted more money than shane..paul williams will say yes but bertos folks wont fight him i guess..again the 140 ld divsion has debth whyis maidana fighting a guy that cant draw flies ..hbo picks up another tab..interesting huh..why not ask cotto for a fight at 147 or 54 berto...
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dmar cotto turned berto down recently.
RANDALL BAILEY ANYONE?
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is randall bailey still alive?

why turn down Mayorga

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hear comes the tough questions
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opps i forgot that cotto said no to a possible berto fight..he may be thinking ahead to the winner of pac margo maybe..
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Birdofthad wrote:
is randall bailey still alive?

why turn down Mayorga

HBO SUCKS

KO King actually won a title eliminator (IBF I believe), meaning he should be getting the winner of Zaveck-Jackiewicz.
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How is this different from Berto v. Urango? Berto will outbox Maidana whose power won't be quite as threatening at 147.

Berto should take Aydin. Not enough people take pride in being the Man in their division. If he wins take on the next best guy. Eventually he'll get Floyd or Manny unless they retire at which point he wins by default.
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Maidana doesn't strike me as presenting a big challenge to Berto. He is so much faster than Maidana. Maidana also relies on strength and power. Is that going to work when Berto is the bigger man. Berto has been dropped before, but he also has been fighting welterweights, not junior welters.

I see this as a one sided affair.
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PostSubject: Re: Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D   Maidana vs Berto? HBO rejects Mayorga for Sergei D EmptyWed Aug 18, 2010 8:12 pm

I have an opponent for you.

Berto is having trouble finding a viable welterweight to fight.

PW wants to fight at 147.

Since PW is trying everything to dodge Martinez, how about putting PW in there with Berto.


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Haymon manages both Berto and Williams...that'll never happen
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I know, but one can dream!!!! I'm tired of both of those guys and would love to see them get in the ring so that: (a) hopefully we see a good fight, (b) if we don't see a good fight then we could stop hearing all bluster about the loser. Wouldn't it be nice to have Berto cut down to size??? OR for PW to lose and we could stop the most avoided man (and I want to campaign at 147 talk)????
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It sure would Captain...sure would lol
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HBO has been fucking up 2010. 2009 was such a good year and there was so many wars, but with HBO overpaying top fighters to face overmatched opponents; the fighters want career high purses to fight dangerous fighters. Marquez is leaning to fight katsidis in the fall, if that happens, it would help boxing in the fall/winter. It will leave Khan to probably face Maidana finally, and a month later we get Bradley-Alexander. Berto will finally stop fighting blown up jr Welters for a lot of money. Berto may not be a very good fighter, but hes so athletic he easily beats Maidana.

HBO- kill 2 birds with the same stone and offer Sergei D vs Berto Match up.
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As for Mayorga being rejected I'm torn.

Bad Idea to have him as an opponent: I think he would get ouboxed, would act like a total fool in the run up to the fight, and might not make weight.
Good Idea to have him as an opponent: But what if he knew this was a last shot, took things seriously, got into shape, and then landed something big. He could give us a decent fight.

I lean more towards the former (good idea not to have him as an opponent).
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Sergei D vs Berto really doesnt do much for me.

Berto-Cintron or Berto-Cotto (not likely) are the tops for me.

I'll accept Berto-Mike Jones or Clottey also.
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Berto vs Cotto is the fight we should have. I don't begrudge Cotto too much for wanting to fight Chavez for an obscene amount of money (considering that Cotto has fought a large number of ranked guys at 140 and 147).



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Pointless fight, Berto needs to face a top Welterweight already, the most logical one out there is Joshua Clottey.

Sergei D vs K9 would be a smart fight right now, probably not a very exciting fight but at least it gets Sergei D active and on HBO.
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Ali_1748 wrote:
Pointless fight, Berto needs to face a top Welterweight already, the most logical one out there is Joshua Clottey.

Sergei D vs K9 would be a smart fight right now, probably not a very exciting fight but at least it gets Sergei D active and on HBO.

Clottey's stock is way down after the Pac fight, and he hasn't done anything since. It's lose-lose for Berto. Berto just needs to take the best fights available at his weight class, even if they aren't big names.

I agree on Dzinziruk v. K9.
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