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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:43 pm | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:03 pm | |
| Yo he was the third overall pick and had to be talked down from killing himself a week into his second year. He almost retired because he couldn't handle it. The only thing separating Young from those QB's is the Titans had Albert Haynesworth before he got fat and didn't give a fuck. Young is garbage. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:29 pm | |
| Wolf I dont like him either but he isnt garbage, not close. | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:37 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Vince Young isn't a good starting QB. He will never be a good starting QB. He was the third overall pick. I've never seen a player who is so mentally unfit for the NFL with such overall terrible play that has been propped up by fans, the NFL and the media as Vince Young. His numbers suck, his day to day play sucks, he is literally too stupid to understand the NFL and is mentally weak. The Titans defense and running game won games inspite of Young.
As far as I am concerned the voting of him to Rookie of the Year was a joke that rendered the award valueless. Colston was robbed blind that year.
People mention a drive here, a play there, or say stupid shit like "well hes just a winner". What a joke. There will never, ever, ever come a situation where VY isn't an interception machine who can't make the reads.
At his best he is an average passer, at worst he is the worst starting QB in the NFL bar none.
Completion pct. 57%
Qb rating 72.3
TD/INT 32/39
Rushing TD/fumbles 12/32
Case closed. JaMarcus Russell: Drafted 3rd in 2007Completion pct. 52.1% Qb rating 65.2 TD/INT 18/23 Rushing TD/fumbles 1/3 Tarvaris JacksonCompletion pct. 58.7% Qb rating 77.9 TD/INT 21/18 Rushing TD/fumbles 4/4 Brady QuinnCompletion pct. 52.1% Qb rating 66.8 TD/INT 10/9 Rushing TD/fumbles 1/1 Those are just to name a few. Case wide open. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:40 pm | |
| Tavaris gets a raw deal with Brets ass right on his back every year. He never knows if he is playing or riding the bench. Farve is single handlely destroying Tavaris Jacksons career. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:43 pm | |
| The fact that the Vikings would install Favre as their starting QB if he came back the night before the first game shows what they think of Jackson | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:48 pm | |
| Bobbitt there are about 25 teams that would install Brett if he decided to come play for there team. Its more of an indication of the league not Tavaris in my opion. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:46 pm | |
| Jamarcus was the number 1 pick
WOlf you obviously thought he would suck so pick someone THAT SURPRISED YOU THE MOST!!!! | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:58 pm | |
| Actually Tarvaris spent 3 seasons actually playing and started 2 seasons in a row before getting hurt/benched and replaced by Gus Ferrotte who went on fire. in those three seasons(which I guess you can forget 06 because Brad Johnson was our starter) he never broke 60% completion, and never had more TD's than INT's. If you include his fumbles his turnover ratio is -7 with 21 TD's and 28 Turnovers. He didn't get a raw deal, he just doesn't have the poise he needs to be a starting QB in the NFL. He makes bad decisions. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:01 pm | |
| - LudoCain wrote:
- Actually Tarvaris spent 3 seasons actually playing and started 2 seasons in a row before getting hurt/benched and replaced by Gus Ferrotte who went on fire. in those three seasons(which I guess you can forget 06 because Brad Johnson was our starter) he never broke 60% completion, and never had more TD's than INT's. If you include his fumbles his turnover ratio is -7 with 21 TD's and 28 Turnovers. He didn't get a raw deal, he just doesn't have the poise he needs to be a starting QB in the NFL. He makes bad decisions.
That maybe true but this Brett shit really isnt helping him either. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:23 pm | |
| Travaris came from Tennessee State they knew they were getting a project plus he was a 2nd rounder thats gone to the playffs its like calling Shaun King a big bust IMO
Ludo I remember when Mirco was fighting Gabe and Randy predicted Gabe would win I was shocked | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:24 pm | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:32 pm | |
| the old man either A was like please god dont let Mirco win
or B heard something
or C is the smartest man in the biz | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:35 pm | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:37 pm | |
| But if you remember Gabe was supposed to be the best heavyweight since Minotauro when he hit the scene too. I think it was alot of the hype plus the mentality that straight grappling>straight striking in MMA. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:39 pm | |
| Randy picks are pretty dead on. He has picked alot of upsets and he is very knowledgeable about the sport so I dont think he gets lucky. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: The Bust That Surprised You the Most Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:13 pm | |
| anyone remember how F'ing boring Gabe vs the black guy with crazy hair was
Herb stopped the fight at 1 point and said you guys need to fight this is a fight, I will take a point from both of you
while the crowd chanted "Homo's" | |
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