*UPDATED* Lytle out against Condit- replaced by Ellenberger

Bigs03 wrote:

Are ya'll joking? The ONLY hope Hughes would have would be laynpray just like he did against Serra. The problem is...Condit is 10 times as crafty as Serra is and will cause many more problems for Hughes in his guard.

I don't think Hughes has a chance against Condit. Serra is garbage, Condit is an up and coming future contendor. Maybe he could laynpray to another boring decision but I think he would get caught in a submission if he does anything similar to what he did against Serra.

Condit isn't an up and comer. He's been in the game for a long time. But he is still young.

kind of a letdown for me actually,
was interested in seeing lytles windmill punches vs condit.

lytle also has a ground game contrary to watching his fights

Farmer1906 wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

Are ya'll joking? The ONLY hope Hughes would have would be laynpray just like he did against Serra. The problem is...Condit is 10 times as crafty as Serra is and will cause many more problems for Hughes in his guard.

I don't think Hughes has a chance against Condit. Serra is garbage, Condit is an up and coming future contendor. Maybe he could laynpray to another boring decision but I think he would get caught in a submission if he does anything similar to what he did against Serra.

Condit isn't an up and comer. He's been in the game for a long time. But he is still young.

Yes I know Condit has been around for a long time and I've been a huge fan of his for a long time. I was referring to his status in the UFC WW division and his age. His loss to Kampmann was a definite setback but he's an up and coming contendor in that division I have no doubt.

Carlos Condit is what he always will be. And if Matt Hughes is even 70% of what he used to be he handles Condit easily.

Who is Ellenberger?

PD wrote:

Who is Ellenberger?

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/jake-ellenberger-13068


The guy supposed to be very good. I remember Jordan Breen talking about him a couple weeks ago.

He also has a brother Joe Ellenberger who is undefeated.

I mentioned some stuff about him in this thread, his last win was in Bellator in 54 seconds, he is 21-4 with 13 TKO/KOs. He is 6 foot and listed at 185 so I guess he use to be a MW, looks like a big WW.

PD wrote:

Who is Ellenberger?

Condits next victim.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Carlos Condit is what he always will be. And if Matt Hughes is even 70% of what he used to be he handles Condit easily.

Hughes couldn't even hang with Serra on the feet and layed on him for the entire fight. He wouldn't beat Condit.

Bigs03 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Carlos Condit is what he always will be. And if Matt Hughes is even 70% of what he used to be he handles Condit easily.

Hughes couldn't even hang with Serra on the feet and layed on him for the entire fight. He wouldn't beat Condit.

As much as it would pain me to watch, Hughes would just take him down, avoid subs and gnp him all day. That's how Kampmann beat Condit and im sure Hughes would use the same blueprint he always does.

GSP couldn't hang with Serra on the feet either.

If Condit beats Hughes it's because Hughes has declined dramatically. Carlos Condit is no better than any of Hughes numerous victims.

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

PD wrote:

Who is Ellenberger?

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/jake-ellenberger-13068


The guy supposed to be very good. I remember Jordan Breen talking about him a couple weeks ago.

He also has a brother Joe Ellenberger who is undefeated.

Ah, thanks.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

GSP couldn't hang with Serra on the feet either.

If Condit beats Hughes it's because Hughes has declined dramatically. Carlos Condit is no better than any of Hughes numerous victims.

GSP got caught, yes, but that would NEVER...EVER...happen again. Just because GSP was a little gunshy the second time he fought Serra doesn't mean he would be now. He would pick Serra apart standing and so would Condit with his reach.

damn was looking forward to this one