FNF tonight - Delvin Rodriguez vs. Ashley Theophane - lets score it!

I thought Theophane's made the fight competitive. Teddy's been too busy focusing on his looping hooks and making up analysis to point out that he's been landing good shots all night. Good fight.

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Teddy saying Juan Diaz is shot at 26. Could be.

Nah, He just is not in that upper tier of fighters.

See that's kind of what I think "shot" is. When you are no longer competitive with the level of competition you once were.

Gumby wrote:

I thought Theophane's made the fight competitive. Teddy's been too busy focusing on his looping hooks and making up analysis to point out that he's been landing good shots all night. Good fight.

He is taking a bunch of hard shots though. I thought he would have been KO'd by now. Good fight as you said.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Teddy saying Juan Diaz is shot at 26. Could be.

Nah, He just is not in that upper tier of fighters.

See that's kind of what I think "shot" is. When you are no longer competitive with the level of competition you once were.

I just dont think he ever was. I think he just had not fought those guys yet. I consider shot when your chin goes and you are not the same fighter. I think he is the same fighter just the other guys are better.

A lot of rounds are competitive, but I haven't seen Theophane win more than two of them.

Diaz got lucky and fought in a weak lightweight division for the time Joel was inactive for most of it, he was the best of the 3 Diaz's but guys like Campbell would ahve always beaten him IMO

marbleheadmaui wrote:

A lot of rounds are competitive, but I haven't seen Theophane win more than two of them.

I agree. I do think he is making this much more of a fight than it should have been. Pure will.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Teddy saying Juan Diaz is shot at 26. Could be.

Nah, He just is not in that upper tier of fighters.

See that's kind of what I think "shot" is. When you are no longer competitive with the level of competition you once were.

i agree with teddy. i mean feather fisted paulie had diaz on queer street in their second bout.

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Teddy saying Juan Diaz is shot at 26. Could be.

Nah, He just is not in that upper tier of fighters.

See that's kind of what I think "shot" is. When you are no longer competitive with the level of competition you once were.

I just dont think he ever was. I think he just had not fought those guys yet. I consider shot when your chin goes and you are not the same fighter. I think he is the same fighter just the other guys are better.

So you don't consider Evander "shot?" Diaz beat some pretty good lightweights in Freitas and Julio Diaz. I'm not sure he beats that quality of guy today. Course impossible to know.

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Teddy saying Juan Diaz is shot at 26. Could be.

Nah, He just is not in that upper tier of fighters.

See that's kind of what I think "shot" is. When you are no longer competitive with the level of competition you once were.

i agree with teddy. i mean feather fisted paulie had diaz on queer street in their second bout.

Now the question becomes where is Marquez? What has HE got left at this point?

remember when Freitas quit started crying and then acted like he won

weird shit

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Teddy saying Juan Diaz is shot at 26. Could be.

Nah, He just is not in that upper tier of fighters.

See that's kind of what I think "shot" is. When you are no longer competitive with the level of competition you once were.

I just dont think he ever was. I think he just had not fought those guys yet. I consider shot when your chin goes and you are not the same fighter. I think he is the same fighter just the other guys are better.

So you don't consider Evander "shot?" Diaz beat some pretty good lightweights in Freitas and Julio Diaz. I'm not sure he beats that quality of guy today. Course impossible to know.

Yes because of the second part. He is not the same fighter. I should have explained that better. I mean when your basic skills are gone as well. Like speed. Or for Evander punch drunk.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Teddy saying Juan Diaz is shot at 26. Could be.

Nah, He just is not in that upper tier of fighters.

See that's kind of what I think "shot" is. When you are no longer competitive with the level of competition you once were.

i agree with teddy. i mean feather fisted paulie had diaz on queer street in their second bout.

Now the question becomes where is Marquez? What has HE got left at this point?

Hopefully enough to fight Pac one last time and make it another great fight.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Teddy saying Juan Diaz is shot at 26. Could be.

Nah, He just is not in that upper tier of fighters.

See that's kind of what I think "shot" is. When you are no longer competitive with the level of competition you once were.

i agree with teddy. i mean feather fisted paulie had diaz on queer street in their second bout.

Now the question becomes where is Marquez? What has HE got left at this point?

marquez will ko him. i'm more interested in the juarez-linares bout. i had high hopes for linares so i hope he comes back and becomes a champ.

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Teddy saying Juan Diaz is shot at 26. Could be.

Nah, He just is not in that upper tier of fighters.

See that's kind of what I think "shot" is. When you are no longer competitive with the level of competition you once were.

I just dont think he ever was. I think he just had not fought those guys yet. I consider shot when your chin goes and you are not the same fighter. I think he is the same fighter just the other guys are better.

So you don't consider Evander "shot?" Diaz beat some pretty good lightweights in Freitas and Julio Diaz. I'm not sure he beats that quality of guy today. Course impossible to know.

Yes because of the second part. He is not the same fighter. I should have explained that better. I mean when your basic skills are gone as well. Like speed. Or for Evander punch drunk.

And see I think "Not the same fighter" is the same as "Can no longer compete at the level where you once did."

We remain separated by a common language

Juan Diaz is a volume puncher. I'm not an expert, but I saw an article on ringtv saying that volume punchers often burn out earlier.

Diaz beat his competition by outworking and overwhelming.

So what happened. He ran into Nate Campbell who had one hell of a night and

What-win for Theophane; what

WOW!

Two AWFUL decisions on one card.

what in the hell.

how did 6 rounds go to Theophane. How is that possible?

what in the hell.

how did 6 rounds go to Theophane. How is that possible?

Holy Shit. What in the fuck was that shit? That guy must have pissed off someone powerfull in Boxing.

I am completely dumbfounded

I had it 7-3 Delvin with three rounds I gave to Delvin marked "close."

So I guess if Theophane gets every one of those it's 6-4...I guess.

I just cant see how in the hell that happens.

that decision isn't registering in my brain.

Did they really say Theophane won

marbleheadmaui wrote:

WOW!

Two AWFUL decisions on one card.

lmao can't remember a boxer who has gotten more robbed than rodriguez as of late. with that said the jamiacan kid should move back down to 140 he's not that bad of a fighter