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i know i've done this to you guys about a 1,000 times but can you guys and dmar and ring and others name the best boxing books. my wife just gave me a 100 dollar barnes and nobles card so i want to start ordering some great reads. as soon as i'm done with this book i'm reading (relato de un naufrago) i'll get going with the boxing books.

"Dark Trade"

Not sure if this is still in print, but "Muhammad Ali: Through the Eyes of the World" is pretty good.

"Four Kings" by George Kimball

"Pound for Pound" (Sugar Ray Robinson) by Herb Boyd

thanks crazy horse
anybody here ever read hands of stone: the life and legend of roberto duran

Too many, let's narrow it down by category.

Reference-Bert Sugar's "Boxing's Greatest Fighters"

Bio-Sugar Ray by Sugar Ray Robinson and Dave Anderson

Recent and a little scary-Dark Trade, Don McCrae. Up close with several fighters most notably James Toney

Fiction-"Boxing's best short stories," Paul Staudahar-Damon Runyon, Jack London, Arthur Conan Doyle or FX O'Toole's "Rope Burns." That's the book that led to Million Dollar Baby.

Classics-AJ Liebling "The Sweet Science," Pierce Egan's "Boxiana" (real old timers stuff)

Personal favorites-Hugh Macilvanney "The Har4dest Game," Budd Schulberg's "Ringside." Both of these are basically collections of articles written on specific fights from the 1940's 1970's by these two.

If you have a more specific interest let me know and I'd be happy to suggest a book.

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

thanks crazy horse
anybody here ever read hands of stone: the life and legend of roberto duran

LOVED IT! Christian Guidice did a GREAT job. He really takes the mystery out of No Mas.

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

"Dark Trade"

Not sure if this is still in print, but "Muhammad Ali: Through the Eyes of the World" is pretty good.

"Four Kings" by George Kimball

"Pound for Pound" (Sugar Ray Robinson) by Herb Boyd

Isn't Dark Trade magnificent??????

marbleheadmaui wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

thanks crazy horse
anybody here ever read hands of stone: the life and legend of roberto duran

LOVED IT! Christian Guidice did a GREAT job. He really takes the mystery out of No Mas.

So is the horse thing true or not?

Weird for me that Duran is a guy that I just can't sit and watch. Don't really have an opinion of him either way. I have quite a few of his fights but he's just a guy I've never been interested in, except for when I loved Ray Leonard as a kid and Duran had the fights with Ray.

Four Kings, and the Sugar Ray Robinson bio referenced by Marble were books I've read and enjoyed a great deal. I would definitely recommend those as well.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

"Dark Trade"

Not sure if this is still in print, but "Muhammad Ali: Through the Eyes of the World" is pretty good.

"Four Kings" by George Kimball

"Pound for Pound" (Sugar Ray Robinson) by Herb Boyd

Isn't Dark Trade magnificent??????

Quite. Going to be one I read again soon, as it's been forever and I have lost brain cells since.

Doing the Bert Sugar's 100 Greatest book ATM. Hard book to find at times in the past since it's out of print.

Off topic but it is amazing how little people read anymore. Jay Leno (who I hate) does the bit where they ask questions to people on the street. so many of the people have no idea about simple common things.


If someone walked down the street and asked people what is the last book they read, then how many people would have no idea as they don't read anything?

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

thanks crazy horse
anybody here ever read hands of stone: the life and legend of roberto duran

LOVED IT! Christian Guidice did a GREAT job. He really takes the mystery out of No Mas.

So is the horse thing true or not?

Weird for me that Duran is a guy that I just can't sit and watch. Don't really have an opinion of him either way. I have quite a few of his fights but he's just a guy I've never been interested in, except for when I loved Ray Leonard as a kid and Duran had the fights with Ray.

Duran was a drunken teenager who made a bar bet, decked the horse and broke his hand doing so.

I'm a Duran junkie. Probably watched 50 of his fights. Watching the three DeJesus fights one after another is to watch a good fighter become a great one. Just a thought. His sheer ferocity I found scary.

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

KrazyHorseBennett wrote:

"Dark Trade"

Not sure if this is still in print, but "Muhammad Ali: Through the Eyes of the World" is pretty good.

"Four Kings" by George Kimball

"Pound for Pound" (Sugar Ray Robinson) by Herb Boyd

Isn't Dark Trade magnificent??????

Quite. Going to be one I read again soon, as it's been forever and I have lost brain cells since.

Doing the Bert Sugar's 100 Greatest book ATM. Hard book to find at times in the past since it's out of print.

Not only are Dark Trade's stories fascinating, but McCrae's writing puts you right there. Like I said, really scary in places.

Duran was an animal.

captainanddew wrote:

Duran was an animal.

I was watching him on ABC with my Dad when he knocked out Hector Thompson (I think it was Hector). He's getting interviewed in the ring and this woman, turns out it was Thompson's Mother, tries to get at him. In the mayhem Duran dropped her. I turned to my Dad and said "Did he just belt her?" He had.

Can a mod make a sticky thread with the full list?

Here is the best list I have seen.

http://www.ringsidebygus.com/boxing-books.html

I HIGHLY recommend numbers 3, 8, 14, 19, 24, 27, 39, 43, 48, 62, 74, 81, 93, 103, 106.

Not quite that good, but worth reading are 11, 30, 47, 49, 51, 57, 68, 100

Dark Trade - great book, just great

Gene Tunney Biography - its an awesome read about TUnney Dempsey and that era of boxing

Unforgiveable Blackness - great book on Jack Johnson

Barney Ross :The Life of a Jewish FIghter - anything on his life feels like a movie that couldnt possibly be real......but it is

Sugar Ray Robinson bio that marble suggested is gerat as well

King of the World - great Ali read

The Devil and Sonny Liston - read it 6 years ago and reread it every other year

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Here is the best list I have seen.

http://www.ringsidebygus.com/boxing-books.html

I HIGHLY recommend numbers 3, 8, 14, 19, 24, 27, 39, 43, 48, 62, 74, 81, 93, 103, 106.

Not quite that good, but worth reading are 11, 30, 47, 49, 51, 57, 68, 100

thank you and the other fellas.

rum i highly recomend 107 about tunney and dempsey and a book not on that list called barney..barney ross life story..if you want to get burt sugars 100 best and these 2 books id recommend albitris.com..great selection of books CHEAP in any genre.ive used them several times and there excellent.

i like the ferdie pacheco book, the 10 greatest rounds of boxing, i think its called

ya i liked it as well Ray

altho, the dempsey thing.....lol, id love to see the footage that pacheco claims to have seen