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Deezy0814 wrote:
as far as the second fight goes i scored it a 6-6 with the deciding point going to pac for the KD
Yeah I had it 7-5. One of my friends who always roots against Pac had it the same way you did.

i could see that too a couple of those rounds were to close to call but i gave the fight to pac for the KD had it not been for that i would have scored it a draw. it was a damn good fight and will be talked about by boxing fans for years
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yes thye first fight and i gave round 2 to manny also..thats all the scoring i rember...pac won that fight.
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yes thye first fight and i gave round 2 to manny also..thats all the scoring i rember...pac won that fight.
I had Pac winning that fight.
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manys next oponent should be floyd sr..at least hes got more balls then his son...dam maybe this was a good thing.it did the impossible.it shut up floyd roger and floyd sr at the same time.
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manys next oponent should be floyd sr..at least hes got more balls then his son...dam maybe this was a good thing.it did the impossible.it shut up floyd roger and floyd sr at the same time.
LMAO yeah they have been a little silent. I dont think they ever thought pac would agree to all their shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Pacquiao's next opponent should be   Pacquiao's next opponent should be - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 2:37 pm

the reports out there seem to be that Pac vs Margarito seems more likely as Cotto might be in the running for a big payday against Chavez Jr. But who knows, it will all be whatever crazy ass Arum wants.
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PostSubject: Re: Pacquiao's next opponent should be   Pacquiao's next opponent should be - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 2:39 pm

captain that could be good news..pac may demand another alternative.
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captainanddew wrote:
the reports out there seem to be that Pac vs Margarito seems more likely as Cotto might be in the running for a big payday against Chavez Jr. But who knows, it will all be whatever crazy ass Arum wants.
The question is do I skip out of watching a Pac fight? I would buy it if it was Cotto but I am not so sure about Margo.
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PostSubject: Re: Pacquiao's next opponent should be   Pacquiao's next opponent should be - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 2:44 pm

I'd love Bradley at 140 or Berto at 147.

I don't think Manny's going down to 140 though (too little to gain from a public opinion standpoint). Def agree with Berto at 147.

I hate Margo and the idea of him getting another fight. If they do it, I hope they do it in the Philippines and let Pac fight with cement in his gloves.
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PostSubject: Re: Pacquiao's next opponent should be   Pacquiao's next opponent should be - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 3:42 pm

Guys how much more polished do you want Berto to be? He's a fucking belt holder in a glory division where he's ranked in the top five. If he can't defend against other guys in the top of the division he should quit. 300 or so amateur fights and 26 pro fights? Give me a break.

Where will Pac fight JMM? You want Pac to move down two divisions? Or do you want to see a 37 year old guy move up a division where he's previously looked like shit in?

Let Berto and Pac fight. Shake up 147 a little bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Pacquiao's next opponent should be   Pacquiao's next opponent should be - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 3:43 pm

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someone that actually knows politics
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Guys how much more polished do you want Berto to be? He's a fucking belt holder in a glory division where he's ranked in the top five. If he can't defend against other guys in the top of the division he should quit. 300 or so amateur fights and 26 pro fights? Give me a break.

Where will Pac fight JMM? You want Pac to move down two divisions? Or do you want to see a 37 year old guy move up a division where he's previously looked like shit in?

Let Berto and Pac fight. Shake up 147 a little bit.
...i agree totaly.....
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Guys how much more polished do you want Berto to be? He's a fucking belt holder in a glory division where he's ranked in the top five. If he can't defend against other guys in the top of the division he should quit. 300 or so amateur fights and 26 pro fights? Give me a break.

Where will Pac fight JMM? You want Pac to move down two divisions? Or do you want to see a 37 year old guy move up a division where he's previously looked like shit in?

Let Berto and Pac fight. Shake up 147 a little bit.
I would watch the fight but Pac would kill Berto right now. Pac could drop down to like 135 or so and they could fight at that weight for a JMM fight. But really do you think Berto needs no polishing? He still is a very young fighter who needs to work on his footwork a lot. Either way Pac is going to fight a guy who he shouldnt be fighting because of a pussy.
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PostSubject: Re: Pacquiao's next opponent should be   Pacquiao's next opponent should be - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 3:48 pm

pac has stated hes not going down in weight..berto will give him a fight..maybe im the only guy that thinks that..
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dmar5143 wrote:
pac has stated hes not going down in weight..berto will give him a fight..maybe im the only guy that thinks that..
I think he would for about 5 rounds and then it would turn very bad for Berto. He would be KO'd in 8 or 9. If he does not get caught early in the fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Pacquiao's next opponent should be   Pacquiao's next opponent should be - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 3:56 pm

he has power.very fast hands..hes not afraid to mix it up..pac is easy to hit.will come at him sooner or later..berto can ko him also.i dont rule that out..hes more than capable of doing that also..
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dmar5143 wrote:
he has power.very fast hands..hes not afraid to mix it up..pac is easy to hit.will come at him sooner or later..berto can ko him also.i dont rule that out..hes more than capable of doing that also..
I have never seen Pac hurt. I think Pac has a good enough chin to take Berto's punch but who knows. I think Berto's footwork will not allow him to land anything big in this fight. He has to catch Pac before Pac catches him and then hope that he dents Pac's chin. That is a tall task.
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pac was koed twice by body shots.marquez stunned him a few times.clottey in close snapped his head back at least 4 times and pac clinched...pac is my favorite fighter today.its not a given he walks all over berto or floyd for that matter..is he capable.yep.but both of them could also surprize pac indeed..next year the young jones kid could surprize manyfighters also.


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PostSubject: Re: Pacquiao's next opponent should be   Pacquiao's next opponent should be - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 19, 2010 4:04 pm

dmar5143 wrote:
he has power.very fast hands..hes not afraid to mix it up..pac is easy to hit.will come at him sooner or later..berto can ko him also.i dont rule that out..hes more than capable of doing that also..

I think Berto's power is overrated. His power looks great against sub par competition. He's fast against guys that are slow. All of Berto's strengths seem to be easily neutralized by B level competition. Cosme Rivera put Berto on his ass and Collazo gave Berto all he could handle. I just don't see Berto as an elite fighter which is why I want someone elite to take his title at this division.
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im all for that matchup..
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1. Floyd
2. JMM
3. Berto
4. Bradley
5. Alexander
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1.berto2.bradley3.alexander4.paul williams...then retire..im not saying thats who will be next just who i wish would be..a wish list.
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dmar5143 wrote:
pac was koed twice by body shots.marquez stunned him a few times.clottey in close snapped his head back at least 4 times and pac clinched...pac is my favorite fighter today.its not a given he walks all over berto or floyd for that matter..is he capable.yep.but both of them could also surprize pac indeed..next year the young jones kid could surprize manyfighters also.
He was like 17 when he was KO'd with body shots.
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1. Floyd
2. JMM
3. Berto
4. Bradley
5. Alexander
A HUGE +1
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Pac may get to a point that someone's shots dent the chin. he is a smaller guy campaigning at welter. After the cotto fight he looked like he got beat up (even though he didn't). Clottey lifted his feet up off the canvas each of the 3-4 times Clottey landed an uppercut.

If a fighter has enough of a chin and boxing ability to stand up to Pac's onslaught for 5-6 rounds without wilting, Pac's chin may not be able to stand the return fire.
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