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| Subject: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:53 am | |
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| | | SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:42 am | |
| I am 215 the last time I weighed 125 I was in third or fourth grade man thats tiny. They will have to go to the east for those little guys. | |
| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GSP Posts : 515 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 48 Location : Halifax,Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:31 pm | |
| yea i am 245 and maybe i am biased but i have no interest in seeing fully grown men who weigh as much as a 14 year old fight. Sorry to all you small guys, i just find it has no appeal at all | |
| | | GolbeZ Administrator
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| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:33 pm | |
| - EliteAcidBurn wrote:
- yea i am 245 and maybe i am biased but i have no interest in seeing fully grown men who weigh as much as a 14 year old fight. Sorry to all you small guys, i just find it has no appeal at all
so you dont watch torres fight? Where does your line draw.. 135?
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| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GSP Posts : 515 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 48 Location : Halifax,Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:35 pm | |
| i can watch 145 ers, and its not like i wont watch the 125 ers, i just dont have a interest in it. But thats just me. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:38 pm | |
| I love watching the little fuckers go balls to the wall for a full 15 min. So much cardio and so many transitions it is very entertaining IMO. | |
| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GSP Posts : 515 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 48 Location : Halifax,Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:50 pm | |
| very true that they do go balls out | |
| | | SOKO Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Dragon, Kenflo, Hendo, Guida, Ace, Wand, Cain, Carwin, Foreman, Evander, Oscar Posts : 3362 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 43 Location : atlanta
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:51 pm | |
| yeah 125 is pushing it I cant watch boxing at that weight cause you hardly ever see ko's but atleast in mma you got subs. but you gotta love the balls to the wall endurance. | |
| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GSP Posts : 515 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 48 Location : Halifax,Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:52 pm | |
| anyone else but me , if that was me in the avatar and old danny boi pushed me like that, i think i may have snapped. what fight was that anyway anyone know what happend to cuase him to do that | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:56 pm | |
| - EliteAcidBurn wrote:
- anyone else but me , if that was me in the avatar and old danny boi pushed me like that, i think i may have snapped. what fight was that anyway anyone know what happend to cuase him to do that
I was wondering the same thing about your avatar, I don't remember that fight. Must have been his fight with Gono. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:58 pm | |
| watching smaller guys go at it is awesome, they have never stopping motors like Guida. It is fun to watch how many transitions they have on the ground. I agree the lack of KOs is a downside but number of strikes thrown and activity on the ground more then make up for it IMO. They are usually very very active fights. | |
| | | JimboJones1 Yellow Belt
Posts : 196 Join date : 2009-07-16
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:42 pm | |
| Eh, for the fans who appreciate technical mma, this weight class will be great. Its like 135 and 145 in the WEC, never a boring fight. Also, I realize that alot of fans of mma are new to combat sports, but every reputable combat sport from boxing to wrestling, to judo , etc. has a weight class like this. For example, if boxing didn't have weights like this, we would all have missed out on all time great fights like Vasquez vs. Marquez, I, II, and III and Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Erik Morales, I, II, and III.
Personally, it doesn't bother me in the least that these guys are much smaller then myself. There fighting ability will prove the weight class is warranted, just like every other reputable combat sport.
Also, guys who compete at 125lbs can weigh as much as 150lbs normally, which is on the small side, but whats the difference if you are watching them fight another person their size. Also, a lot of the talk comes from people who are like "im 250...bla bla bla" when those 125 lbs'ers would still put them on their asses. | |
| | | Jruq Green Belt
Posts : 412 Join date : 2009-07-19
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:11 pm | |
| I weigh 170 and can only watch welterweights. | |
| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GSP Posts : 515 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 48 Location : Halifax,Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:30 pm | |
| - JimboJones1 wrote:
- Eh, for the fans who appreciate technical mma, this weight class will be great. Its like 135 and 145 in the WEC, never a boring fight. Also, I realize that alot of fans of mma are new to combat sports, but every reputable combat sport from boxing to wrestling, to judo , etc. has a weight class like this. For example, if boxing didn't have weights like this, we would all have missed out on all time great fights like Vasquez vs. Marquez, I, II, and III and Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Erik Morales, I, II, and III.
Personally, it doesn't bother me in the least that these guys are much smaller then myself. There fighting ability will prove the weight class is warranted, just like every other reputable combat sport.
Also, guys who compete at 125lbs can weigh as much as 150lbs normally, which is on the small side, but whats the difference if you are watching them fight another person their size. Also, a lot of the talk comes from people who are like "im 250...bla bla bla" when those 125 lbs'ers would still put them on their asses. \ i take it your a little feller, i didnt mean to offend ya there lucky charms! ANd i never said a damn thing about me being 250 pounds thinking i can beat the little guys, i just simply said I have no interest in it personally. | |
| | | JimboJones1 Yellow Belt
Posts : 196 Join date : 2009-07-16
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:50 pm | |
| i take it your a little feller, i didnt mean to offend ya there lucky charms!
ANd i never said a damn thing about me being 250 pounds thinking i can beat the little guys, i just simply said I have no interest in it personally.[/quote]
First off, if you read my post, I explained that I had no problem watching guys much smaller then me compete; im about 180 lbs. What I was speaking about did not particularly concern you jackass, tho your paranoia led you to believe i was referring to you, as if you are the only fool to site your weight as part of the reason you dont want to watch smaller fighters. I guess you wont be watching Miguel Torres on Sunday.
It is this overarching theme amongst pple who have never competed in any combat form, especially those new to combat sports through mma, that because they are heavy, usually fat unathletic tools, that they dont "have an interest" in watching the smaller fighters, for no particular reason. However, I suspect that those who go around touting their "size" and lack of interest in watching a technical mma fight because the contestants are "too small," usually do so because they find it demasculating to watch someone half their size who could kick their ass. This is why mma fans are paralleled to wwe fans, bc many have no interest in actual technical mma, just want to watch goons throwing sloppy haymakers. | |
| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GSP Posts : 515 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 48 Location : Halifax,Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:03 pm | |
| so why do you assume that people you dont " like technical MMA" are fat un athletic tools. Or even for that matter find it demasulating...lmao.
Maybe just maybe some people just dont find it interresting watching that particular weight class. Or maybe some just dont want MMA to turn into a boxing fiasco with about 1500 different weight classes that are about 1-2 pounds different.
If you like watching that weight class then by all fucking means go for it.
Some of us just dont see the interest in it, but again i guess that makes all of us, fat unathletic tools, who dont know enough about combat sports to know better.
And to be honest besides boxing, no i have not been involved with combat sports. MMA wasnt around when I was young enough to do anything about it. Wish it was as i would have def been involved.
And again i will and have watched the lil g uys go at it. I really "personally" could care less if they come out with a 125 weight class. Then what is next, are we going with featherweight, strawweight, junior flyweight.
Thats the problem with boxing to many weight classes, giving to many fighters excuses as to why they cant fight 2 pounds heavier.
I said my peace...let the curtain fall | |
| | | SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:07 pm | |
| - JimboJones1 wrote:
- i take it your a little feller, i didnt mean to offend ya there lucky charms!
ANd i never said a damn thing about me being 250 pounds thinking i can beat the little guys, i just simply said I have no interest in it personally. First off, if you read my post, I explained that I had no problem watching guys much smaller then me compete; im about 180 lbs. What I was speaking about did not particularly concern you jackass, tho your paranoia led you to believe i was referring to you, as if you are the only fool to site your weight as part of the reason you dont want to watch smaller fighters. I guess you wont be watching Miguel Torres on Sunday. It is this overarching theme amongst pple who have never competed in any combat form, especially those new to combat sports through mma, that because they are heavy, usually fat unathletic tools, that they dont "have an interest" in watching the smaller fighters, for no particular reason. However, I suspect that those who go around touting their "size" and lack of interest in watching a technical mma fight because the contestants are "too small," usually do so because they find it demasculating to watch someone half their size who could kick their ass. This is why mma fans are paralleled to wwe fans, bc many have no interest in actual technical mma, just want to watch goons throwing sloppy haymakers.[/quote] Relax man its just his opinion just like some guys dont care to see the woman fight. And how you compared that quote to wwe is just beyond me. r | |
| | | JimboJones1 Yellow Belt
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| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:18 pm | |
| I will agree with you that it shouldn't turn into boxing where there at a million weight classes seperated by 3 lbs. However, 10 lbs increments is good in my opinion. Further, I wasn't assuming YOU were a "fat unathletic tool," its just been my experience at gyms ive gone to that the guys who have those kind of attitudes TEND to be "fat unathletic tools." I'd also like to add that my roommate in college was a teammate of mine and our 125 lbs'er. The guy was 5'7 150lbs normally and bar none, was one of the toughest s.o.b.'s ive ever met. So naturally, when I hear or read people saying they don't want to watch guys like him becuase they happen to be heavy and guys like him happen to be light, I take some offense to it, because I know personally how talented they are and how hard they work. Especially when it comes from random people who show up to gyms to take kickboxing, wrestling, or bjj classes and couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Im not saying that is you, but the attitude is shared by those ive described.
The reason I said it usually comes from people who have never competed before, or at a high level, is because heavyweights in boxing, mma, wrestling, etc. all have an equal if not more respect for the lighter fighters, who tend to train harder and have better technique. Its only the new fans and such who think otherwise. | |
| | | Jruq Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:20 pm | |
| - EliteAcidBurn wrote:
Thats the problem with boxing to many weight classes, giving to many fighters excuses as to why they cant fight 2 pounds heavier. That's not really valid. We are not talking about adding more weight classes in between the current ones, like having a 162lb class or 195 class, but adding in something for some of the smaller dudes, 10lbs lighter than the lowest current class. It will not "create an excuse" for people why they can't move around in weight. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:22 pm | |
| shit I'll watch two 50 pound midgets go at it if they got skills lol | |
| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:23 pm | |
| ok i can see that there needs to be a division for the guys who are in that weight class, i mean they need to fight somewhere right? I get that. I guess im worried that before long we will have to many weight classes and then we will have sub classes in those weight classes. and then the junior weight classes. BLAHHHH
ANd even though i am a big guy, my fav division is WW. | |
| | | JimboJones1 Yellow Belt
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| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:23 pm | |
| Relax man its just his opinion just like some guys dont care to see the woman fight. And how you compared that quote to wwe is just beyond me. r[/quote]
You're right, it is his opinion, just as my post reflected my opinion, and your post reflects your opinion. | |
| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GSP Posts : 515 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 48 Location : Halifax,Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:25 pm | |
| Maybe midget mma is the next big thing.
MMMA
mighy midget mix martial arts
could be a milion dollar idea | |
| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : GSP Posts : 515 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 48 Location : Halifax,Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:26 pm | |
| dam i cant spell worth a damn | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: WEC starting a 125 LBS division Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:30 pm | |
| - EliteAcidBurn wrote:
- Maybe midget mma is the next big thing.
MMMA
mighy midget mix martial arts
could be a milion dollar idea hey if those midgets got skills sign me up! lol, I would love to see a little mini flying knee KO | |
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