Should Fedor get into shape/cut weight?

MMA is an evolving game and world class athletes doing world class training is becoming more and more the norm. Just look at guys like Lesnar, GSP, Jones, Anderson, Rashad, Asken, etc...

What do you think about Fedor showing up at 205 looking with a 6 pack and a new lease on life after a loss?

I really think it has a ton of potential. Just think how life would be different not having to worry about guys with severals inches on you in the arms and legs. The only real drawback for Fedor is losing his huge speed advantage plus 205>265 with it comes to competition.

Note: I'm not saying Fedor is out of shape. He is explosive like no other, but lets not kid ourselves here. There is a different level in physical training going on.

I think he should see how thing go because if he rematches Werdum he will beat him, certainly get into better shape, but I like a move to LHW eventually honestly.

I dont know if he wants to cut that much weight to fight at 205! Honestly he is probably the best ever at HW and i think thats where he should stay.

He would still be close to as fast as Machida or Shogun at LHW.

He'd have to cut like nothing to get to 205 really, he was chubby and weighed 229, he'd probably wreck everyone at 205, and a Anderson vs. Fedor fight at 205 would be epic.

It would never happen though. Same reasons as CroCop has stated before. There's prestige at fighting at HW. Dropping down a weight class is viewed as a puss move by guys like this

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

He'd have to cut like nothing to get to 205 really, he was chubby and weighed 229, he'd probably wreck everyone at 205, and a Anderson vs. Fedor fight at 205 would be epic.

Fedor would kill Anderson.I think Shogun and Rampage(if he uses his wrestling)also beat Anderson at 205

I've been wanting Fedor vs Anderson for a good 2 years now.

bobbitt15 wrote:

It would never happen though. Same reasons as CroCop has stated before. There's prestige at fighting at HW. Dropping down a weight class is viewed as a puss move by guys like this

This is what I was trying to say. Also I think he has enough challenges at HW now that he isnt unbeatable anymore.

Subzero1983 wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

He'd have to cut like nothing to get to 205 really, he was chubby and weighed 229, he'd probably wreck everyone at 205, and a Anderson vs. Fedor fight at 205 would be epic.

Fedor would kill Anderson.I think Shogun and Rampage(if he uses his wrestling)also beat Anderson at 205

I wouldn't go this far at all, you're selling Anderson way short

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Subzero1983 wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

He'd have to cut like nothing to get to 205 really, he was chubby and weighed 229, he'd probably wreck everyone at 205, and a Anderson vs. Fedor fight at 205 would be epic.

Fedor would kill Anderson.I think Shogun and Rampage(if he uses his wrestling)also beat Anderson at 205

I wouldn't go this far at all, you're selling Anderson way short

A lot of people are because of his last performance. When he knocks out Sonnen like he did Forrest, he'll be the GOAT again. People need to keep things in perspective and quit all this knee jerk reaction. I've been guilty of it too, but some people on here are just over the top. (not trying to call you out, subzero. just speaking the average poster on here)

If he moves to LHW, he loses. Simple as that. Heavyweight MMA has long been a place where there is very little skill. The new crop of UFC heavies has really changed that, and that's why MMA realists have always said Fedor needs to prove himself against real opponents to be the top p4p guy. He's been given the moniker of G.O.A.T. when he's fighting the least skilled fighters out there. Do we really think Anderson Silva wouldn't have knocked Andrei Arlovski, Brett Rogers, and Tim Sylvia out? There's no doubt Anderson kills all those guys standing. And that's not even saying the middleweight versions of those guys. I mean, he'd literally beat all of those guys standing. Fedor's been blessed by fighting guys he has no chance of losing to. It must be nice, but in real top MMA, like that in the UFC, you don't get those advantages. If we're being honest with ourselves, if he was fighting the top guys in and out at heavyweight, he'd take a few losses. Even if you pick him to beat each of the top 5 guys, you wouldn't pick him to beat all of the top 5 guys. He'd have a loss in there for sure. So, if Fedor moves down to fight 205ers, he probably takes even more losses and gets beat by most of the top guys. His speed advantage would no longer exist. Against some guys he would look slow. His terrible footwork would be taken advantage of by a lot of guys. His submission game would be negated by most of the top fighters. Do we really see him competing with guys like Shogun, Rashad, and Machida? Seriously? I hope for his sake he just stays at heavy takes a few losses and a few wins to the top guys there, just like he should've been doing all along.

Subzero1983 wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

He'd have to cut like nothing to get to 205 really, he was chubby and weighed 229, he'd probably wreck everyone at 205, and a Anderson vs. Fedor fight at 205 would be epic.

Fedor would kill Anderson.I think Shogun and Rampage(if he uses his wrestling)also beat Anderson at 205

Fedor, with his wide, looping punches, would beat Anderson's crisp straight punches? Fedor, with his slow, plodding, terrible footwork, would beat Anderson's quick feet? I'm sorry, but Anderson lamps Fedor. And I've been saying that for years. Fedor would probably get cut, and Anderson would use that sick shoulder roll of his to counter anything Fedor threw. Anderson would outjab him until the doctor ended it because Fedor's skin is paper thin.

Fedor is faster than anyone Anderson has ever faced by a significant margin. Fedor would Judo toss Anderson like a 7 year old vs a wrestling buddy and break one of his skinny arms off in a keylock or pound his face into the cage. Fedor outstruck Crocop. Crocop would murk Anderson in his prime as well. Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson and Nate Mardquardt aint close to Fedor.

Anderson will never touch goat status to the educated unless he stops facing the second tier fighters at MW and moves into a real weight class. Anderson has one win over a true legend in Dan Henderson. Rich Franklin is great too but Rich at LHW wouldn't have sniffed the top five.

I see what Chork was going for but I had to walk away from the computer for a few minutes when he suggested it was absurd to think Fedor could compete with Rashad fucking Evans

Rashad Evans is literally better at nothing vs Fedor. He would be too small to take him down or keep him there, and would likely be ragdolled all over the place and KO'd when ever the Last Emperor felt like it. Holy shit.


The UFC wouldn't even make that fight, that is some goofy bobby ologun type match making. That is Matt Lindland vs Fedor all over again.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Fedor is faster than anyone Anderson has ever faced by a significant margin. Fedor would Judo toss Anderson like a 7 year old vs a wrestling buddy and break one of his skinny arms off in a keylock or pound his face into the cage. Fedor outstruck Crocop. Crocop would murk Anderson in his prime as well. Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson and Nate Mardquardt aint close to Fedor.

Anderson will never touch goat status to the educated unless he stops facing the second tier fighters at MW and moves into a real weight class. Anderson has one win over a true legend in Dan Henderson. Rich Franklin is great too but Rich at LHW wouldn't have sniffed the top five.

Hahahahahahahaha! Right. Cro Cop would've beaten Anderson? How would that happen again? Beating Cro Cop's as easy as walking forward. I'm sorry, but Cro Cop's career is the most overrated thing in MMA. I'm sorry that knocking out Mark Coleman just isn't that impressive to me. And Fedor's gonna just Judo throw Anderson? He's gotta catch him first. Then he's gotta avoid that triangle. And does anybody have a better chin than Anderson? I doubt it. Anderson beats any heavyweight south of 240 without a problem.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Rashad Evans is literally better at nothing vs Fedor. He would be too small to take him down or keep him there, and would likely be ragdolled all over the place and KO'd when ever the Last Emperor felt like it. Holy shit.


The UFC wouldn't even make that fight, that is some goofy bobby ologun type match making. That is Matt Lindland vs Fedor all over again.

Are you seriously suggesting that Fedor is a better wrestler than Rashad Evans?

No one smaller than CC can walk him down, Anderson isn't a k1 striker guys. Rich Franklin is the best striker Anderson has ever fought. Fin.

No, I am saying he's the bigger fighter. Fedor's never had a problem with bigger wrestlers save the randleplex. Rashad much, much too small to use his wrestling on Fedor.

Here comes 4 pages of OMG UR AN IDIOT FEDOR WOULD/WOULDN'T BEAT ________ BECAUSE OF ________ FAG!

Count me out. Fedor #1 MMA fighter all time.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Fedor is faster than anyone Anderson has ever faced by a significant margin. Fedor would Judo toss Anderson like a 7 year old vs a wrestling buddy and break one of his skinny arms off in a keylock or pound his face into the cage. Fedor outstruck Crocop. Crocop would murk Anderson in his prime as well. Rich Franklin, Dan Henderson and Nate Mardquardt aint close to Fedor.

Anderson will never touch goat status to the educated unless he stops facing the second tier fighters at MW and moves into a real weight class. Anderson has one win over a true legend in Dan Henderson. Rich Franklin is great too but Rich at LHW wouldn't have sniffed the top five.

I got hyped up after this one. U R wrong Chorky!

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Rashad Evans is literally better at nothing vs Fedor. He would be too small to take him down or keep him there, and would likely be ragdolled all over the place and KO'd when ever the Last Emperor felt like it. Holy shit.


The UFC wouldn't even make that fight, that is some goofy bobby ologun type match making. That is Matt Lindland vs Fedor all over again.

Evans is a better boxer and wrestler. And he had no problems taking Rampage down. Rampage is bigger and stronger than Fedor, I'd imagine. I obviously don't have any objective way of knowing that, but it would certainly seem that way. When Rampage gets a little bit of a gut, he's above 250, Fedor always has a gut and he weighs 230. And how could you possibly compare the Lindland fight to a potential Evans fight? Talk about 2 totally different styles of wrestling. Lindland's a greco guy, he doesn't use athleticism and quickness to work for double legs, he throws you using his upper body. So that comparison was just dumb. Evans would probably get Fedor down, work to pass and hope to put some ground and pound on. Repeat if it stands up. Not that hard to imagine. I'd pick Evans in a unanimous decision.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

No one smaller than CC can walk him down, Anderson isn't a k1 striker guys. Rich Franklin is the best striker Anderson has ever fought. Fin.

First of all, since when does being a K-1 striker make you a better MMA striker than someone else? That's another thing that's overrated in MMA, a K-1 background. Hell, Elvis Sinosic fought in K-1. There are plenty of shitty strikers that have come out of K-1. And it's not like he was an elite K-1 guy. It's not like we're talking about Rey Sefo here.

Crocop would kill Anderson and he would probably beat him now too. My opinion. I respect that you disagree. You won't change mine, you have an agenda, I have an agenda leave it at that.

But implying Rashad could even last a round against Fedor makes me giggle a little bit. You funny kid.

Wolfy, you are down playing Anderson's striking way too much. How quickly we forget Roach saying Anderson has a shot of beating RJJ.