Should Fedor get into shape/cut weight?

Farmer1906 wrote:

Wolfy, you are down playing Anderson's striking way too much. How quickly we forget Roach saying Anderson has a shot of beating RJJ.

Roach said AA would KO Fedor. He says alot of things. He slurs and stutters things when talking also.


















Yeah I went there!

Rashad over Fedor at 205lbs???? That is the best joke of the week. I cannot top that one folks!

When Fedor haters laugh at that notion you know it's laughable.

wolf dont you gotta work tomorow?

Nope.

high 5 very nice


also to jump in on Freddie the Joke coach Roach

the guy talks out of his ass everytime he speaks

Roy would have waxed Andersons ass in boxing in 2007, probably 2008, possibly 2009, and shit i still dont know taht Anderson wins in a boxing match, shit in that video of him sparring at WIld Card you can hear them telling Silvas sparring partner to go easier on him after he nailed Silva

Arlovski couldnt handle Fedors power , Freddie has no biz training MMA fighters

Fedor knocks the shit out of Rashad too

the man beat Cro Cop people lets not forget this all of a sudden, as well as Nog, Coleman, Randleman, Fujita, TK, Sobral, etc, etc. a loss to Werdum and all you are going back on yalls claims of his greatness

kind of interesting considering i was one of the only ones who didnt have Fedor 1 in my past P4P of all time thread

I agree with Chorky 100%.

I don't think Fedor should need to get in shape...if it aint broke, don't fix it. It's never caused him problems before and nobody cared to bring it up until he lost a fight that had zero to do with being out muscled or not being fit.

Maybe he should hire a conditioning coach, not to cut weight but to start eating better, adding muscle and including more nutrients and supplements to his diet. It may help when/If he comes up against the new breed of massive athletic monsters.

Ali_1748 wrote:

Maybe he should hire a conditioning coach, not to cut weight but to start eating better, adding muscle and including more nutrients and supplements to his diet. It may help when/If he comes up against the new breed of massive athletic monsters.

That's definitely something I could get behind. Cutting to fight the athletes at 205 is just silly.

Fedor trains to fall from very high distances. That is all the training he needs. Though his patience training failed him this weekend. He went for the kill about 30 seconds or 4 strike connects too soon and payed.

Guys, I feel like someone has to say this. Plain and simple there is no shame in getting subbed by Fabricio Werdum. The fact that he locked in 3 subs in under 30 seconds after Fedor came in looking to punch his head through the mat is a testiment to the fact that Werdum is bar none the best pure grappler in the history of the Heavyweight division.

He held his own with Minotauro on top of him several times in Pride. He survived to a decision with Andrei Arlovski in 2007. He lost by strikes to Junior Dos Santos who a year and a half later is a legit top 5 talent. He has beaten Aleks, he beat Gonzaga, he beat Overeem, he beat Bigfoot, and now he took advantage of poor self control and beat Fedor. But does this make Fedor anything less than he was before?

I've been reading since about 4 days before the fight about how Fedor loves to challenge the strength of his opponents. He stood with Cro Cop, he went into Minotauro's guard, he stood with Arlovski, Rogers, and Sylvia. It was only a matter of time before he found himself on the other end of things. Did he make a mistake? Absolutely. Was it a poor decision to jump into the guard and an even worse decision to stay there after the first sub? Definitely. Does this tarnish Fedors legacy? Absolutely not. This more defines and cements the fact that Fabricio Werdum IS a better fighter than he was given credit for more than it does that Fedor isn't as good as he was said to be.

Fact is on the ground I don't give a highn percentage chance to ANYONE to avoid the sub forever against Werdum. He is the best grappler Fedor ever faced, and the best grappler of all time in the Heavyweight division.

Rashad Evans?

chorky777 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Rashad Evans is literally better at nothing vs Fedor. He would be too small to take him down or keep him there, and would likely be ragdolled all over the place and KO'd when ever the Last Emperor felt like it. Holy shit.


The UFC wouldn't even make that fight, that is some goofy bobby ologun type match making. That is Matt Lindland vs Fedor all over again.

Evans is a better boxer and wrestler. And he had no problems taking Rampage down. Rampage is bigger and stronger than Fedor, I'd imagine. I obviously don't have any objective way of knowing that, but it would certainly seem that way. When Rampage gets a little bit of a gut, he's above 250, Fedor always has a gut and he weighs 230. And how could you possibly compare the Lindland fight to a potential Evans fight? Talk about 2 totally different styles of wrestling. Lindland's a greco guy, he doesn't use athleticism and quickness to work for double legs, he throws you using his upper body. So that comparison was just dumb. Evans would probably get Fedor down, work to pass and hope to put some ground and pound on. Repeat if it stands up. Not that hard to imagine. I'd pick Evans in a unanimous decision.

so 3 tds out of 11 is no problem?

Cu Bua wrote:

chorky777 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Rashad Evans is literally better at nothing vs Fedor. He would be too small to take him down or keep him there, and would likely be ragdolled all over the place and KO'd when ever the Last Emperor felt like it. Holy shit.


The UFC wouldn't even make that fight, that is some goofy bobby ologun type match making. That is Matt Lindland vs Fedor all over again.

Evans is a better boxer and wrestler. And he had no problems taking Rampage down. Rampage is bigger and stronger than Fedor, I'd imagine. I obviously don't have any objective way of knowing that, but it would certainly seem that way. When Rampage gets a little bit of a gut, he's above 250, Fedor always has a gut and he weighs 230. And how could you possibly compare the Lindland fight to a potential Evans fight? Talk about 2 totally different styles of wrestling. Lindland's a greco guy, he doesn't use athleticism and quickness to work for double legs, he throws you using his upper body. So that comparison was just dumb. Evans would probably get Fedor down, work to pass and hope to put some ground and pound on. Repeat if it stands up. Not that hard to imagine. I'd pick Evans in a unanimous decision.

so 3 tds out of 11 is no problem?

Ok, he had little problem.

Chork made some great points. The HW division is soft on skill, BIG TIME.

Fedor would be sick at 205 too. But he's not moving down. He will rematch Werdum and beat him silly. He would probably struggle with Overeen, Carwin, Brock and Cain, but I wouldn't bet against him.

Anderson if he doesn't cut, weighs like 220 right? That's pretty darn close to Fedor. It would be a great fight and not the one-sided affair everyone thinks. I don't think he could trade with Anderson, but he would grapple with him and make the Spider's life a nightmare.

boomer sooner wrote:

Chork made some great points. The HW division is soft on skill, BIG TIME.

Fedor would be sick at 205 too. But he's not moving down. He will rematch Werdum and beat him silly. He would probably struggle with Overeen, Carwin, Brock and Cain, but I wouldn't bet against him.

Anderson if he doesn't cut, weighs like 220 right? That's pretty darn close to Fedor. It would be a great fight and not the one-sided affair everyone thinks. I don't think he could trade with Anderson, but he would grapple with him and make the Spider's life a nightmare.

disagree, Fedor's beaten some very skilled guys in Nog, Cro Cop, Arlovski. Werdum is very skilled, Reem has a very complete game, the UFC has top notch wrestlers, Nelson is a very good submission artist, junior is a highly skilled striker. Big foot is known for his grappling, and showed nice standup game vs AA. Lots of skilled guys at heavy.