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| Subject: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:49 pm | |
| http://www.mmamania.com/2010/6/11/1513447/mma-hall-of-famer-to-admit-steroidTonight's groundbreaking episode of HDNet's "Inside MMA" presents a surprisingly frank discussion on a topic rarely talked about in Mixed Martial Arts - steroid use. How many fighters have used the substances to further their careers and how many are still using them today? Panel guests are UFC stars Dennis Hallman and Pat Barry, and Strikeforce's Renato "Babalu" Sobral. "Inside MMA" airs on HDNet, tonight, Friday, June 11 at 9:00 p.m. ET. A short clip of Hallman's comments, where he alleges at least 50% of fighters take PEDs, can be found after the jump: *edit* new info UFC Hall of Famer and MMA trailblazer Ken Shamrock admits he used steroids during his career. The 46-year-old fighter and UFC 1 competitor confirmed the usage while a guest on Friday's new edition of "Fighting Words with Mike Straka" on HDNet. Shamrock tested positive for multiple steroids after his most recent fight – a February 2009 submission win over the late Ross Clifron – but initially denied usage. At the time and in a subsequent interview with MMAjunkie.com ( www.mmajunkie.com), his camp blamed the failed drug test on over-the-counter products that may have triggered a false positive. Shamrock, who didn't explain exactly when the usage took place, told Straka it's easy for MMA fighters to acquire the banned substances. "It's easy and simple," he said. Shamrock, who's also been involved in professional wrestling with the WWE, placed some of the blame on fans, whom he said want to see muscled-up athletes but ostracize them if they fail a test or endorse the drugs. "When they find out about it, they want to stick their heads in the sand," Shamrock said. "No one wants to take responsibility, but everyone wants to see [bigger athletes]."
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:04 pm | |
| So it's gonna be Ken Shamrock right? | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:04 pm | |
| - MMAEYES wrote:
- So it's gonna be Ken Shamrock right?
Coleman? | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:07 pm | |
| - OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- MMAEYES wrote:
- So it's gonna be Ken Shamrock right?
Coleman? It's got to be one or the other. No fucking way Royce admits it, I still believe he didn't do it! | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:11 pm | |
| should we be surprised that any athlete in this era uses ped's? | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:11 pm | |
| Royce, Couture or Liddell aren't admitting shit even if they did do it. I'm guessing it's someone that isn't any surprise whatsoever... | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:12 pm | |
| - LikesToFightGuy wrote:
- Royce, Couture or Liddell aren't admitting shit even if they did do it. I'm guessing it's someone that isn't any surprise whatsoever...
It says "MMA HOFer", but since I'm not aware of any such Hall I can either assume they are talking about an UFC HOFer or just a legend in the sport. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:17 pm | |
| - OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- LikesToFightGuy wrote:
- Royce, Couture or Liddell aren't admitting shit even if they did do it. I'm guessing it's someone that isn't any surprise whatsoever...
It says "MMA HOFer", but since I'm not aware of any such Hall I can either assume they are talking about an UFC HOFer or just a legend in the sport. So after the three "HOFers" I mentioned, Shamrock, Coleman and Severn are left. Shock factor of almost zero on that list, right? | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:21 pm | |
| - LikesToFightGuy wrote:
- OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- LikesToFightGuy wrote:
- Royce, Couture or Liddell aren't admitting shit even if they did do it. I'm guessing it's someone that isn't any surprise whatsoever...
It says "MMA HOFer", but since I'm not aware of any such Hall I can either assume they are talking about an UFC HOFer or just a legend in the sport. So after the three "HOFers" I mentioned, Shamrock, Coleman and Severn are left. Shock factor of almost zero on that list, right? Yep, zero shock there. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:27 pm | |
| The discussion continues on tonight's edition of HDNet's "Inside MMA," and both MMA veteran Dennis Hallman and a mystery UFC Hall of Famer chime in on the subject.
got the above from mmajunkie so looks like it will be a UFC HOFer and not just some MMA legend. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:31 pm | |
| Severn has had the most to say on the subject over the years... Shamrock could be outspoken and in need of a spotlight at this point... Coleman could have an axe to grind with his recent departure from the UFC, and could attempt to point blame at the UFC...
Damn... Tough one to call, but if I had a gun to my head I'd say Shamrock. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:33 pm | |
| - LikesToFightGuy wrote:
- Severn has had the most to say on the subject over the years... Shamrock could be outspoken and in need of a spotlight at this point... Coleman could have an axe to grind with his recent departure from the UFC, and could attempt to point blame at the UFC...
Damn... Tough one to call, but if I had a gun to my head I'd say Shamrock. I would say whoever is least likely to fight again. I'm leaning toward Severn. I just don't see Ken admitting to that kind of thing. You CAN count Randy, Chuck and Hughes all out. The list of canidates isn't very long. edit* oopss
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:39 pm | |
| - OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- LikesToFightGuy wrote:
- Severn has had the most to say on the subject over the years... Shamrock could be outspoken and in need of a spotlight at this point... Coleman could have an axe to grind with his recent departure from the UFC, and could attempt to point blame at the UFC...
Damn... Tough one to call, but if I had a gun to my head I'd say Shamrock. I would say whoever is least likely to fight again. I'm leaning toward Severn. I just don't see Ken admitting to that kind of thing. You can't count Randy, Chuck and Hughes all out. The list of canidates isn't very long. I can't see Randy or Chuck admitting to beaing able to cheat the system while under contract. Ken's fighting in some org that no one knows or care's about. Coleman's probably done... Hopefully done. Is Hughes officially in the HOF now? If so, I'd group him with Chuck and Randy. Severn would be my second choice behind Ken. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:40 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:41 pm | |
| Ooops I ment to say you CAN rule out Randy, Chuck and Matt. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:42 pm | |
| Honestly I wouldn't rule out any of them. How hard would it be for one of them to say they did roids in their past before their fighting careers? I'm sure most were amateur high school athletes for various sports. High school kids have been doing roids for a very long time. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:43 pm | |
| - LikesToFightGuy wrote:
- OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- LikesToFightGuy wrote:
- Severn has had the most to say on the subject over the years... Shamrock could be outspoken and in need of a spotlight at this point... Coleman could have an axe to grind with his recent departure from the UFC, and could attempt to point blame at the UFC...
Damn... Tough one to call, but if I had a gun to my head I'd say Shamrock. I would say whoever is least likely to fight again. I'm leaning toward Severn. I just don't see Ken admitting to that kind of thing. You can't count Randy, Chuck and Hughes all out. The list of canidates isn't very long. I can't see Randy or Chuck admitting to beaing able to cheat the system while under contract. Ken's fighting in some org that no one knows or care's about. Coleman's probably done... Hopefully done. Is Hughes officially in the HOF now? If so, I'd group him with Chuck and Randy. Severn would be my second choice behind Ken. Hughes got in offically just a little while ago. I think it was the same weekend he fought Gracie. Whenever the fan expo was...I think. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:44 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Honestly I wouldn't rule out any of them. How hard would it be for one of them to say they did roids in their past before their fighting careers? I'm sure most were amateur high school athletes for various sports. High school kids have been doing roids for a very long time.
We are ruling out who will ADMIT it. Someone is going to be on the show. Just guessing it won't be Chuck, Randy or Matt since they are active in the UFC. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:24 pm | |
| It's probably just Dennis Hallman lol. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:27 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- It's probably just Dennis Hallman lol.
I'm guessing Bas inducts himself into the hall and then admits to roids use. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:54 pm | |
| Hope it's not Dan, even though i don't really give a fuck about steroids. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:47 pm | |
| Hate it, but yes, Dan Murgiulata is on the juice. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:29 pm | |
| Oh since we're eliminating HOF guys who won't be admitting it, Mask is out too. | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:59 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Inside MMA to cover roids, Ken Shamrock admits use Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:05 pm | |
| http://mmajunkie.com/news/19508/ken-shamrock-admits-to-steroid-use-2.mmaUFC Hall of Famer and MMA trailblazer Ken Shamrock admits he used steroids during his career. The 46-year-old fighter and UFC 1 competitor confirmed the usage while a guest on Friday's new edition of "Fighting Words with Mike Straka" on HDNet. Shamrock tested positive for multiple steroids after his most recent fight – a February 2009 submission win over the late Ross Clifron – but initially denied usage. At the time and in a subsequent interview with MMAjunkie.com ( www.mmajunkie.com), his camp blamed the failed drug test on over-the-counter products that may have triggered a false positive. Shamrock, who didn't explain exactly when the usage took place, told Straka it's easy for MMA fighters to acquire the banned substances. "It's easy and simple," he said. Shamrock, who's also been involved in professional wrestling with the WWE, placed some of the blame on fans, whom he said want to see muscled-up athletes but ostracize them if they fail a test or endorse the drugs. "When they find out about it, they want to stick their heads in the sand," Shamrock said. "No one wants to take responsibility, but everyone wants to see [bigger athletes]." | |
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