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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:03 pm | |
| What happened to the other Bellator thread?
Spoilers:
Imada robbed blind. Curran arguably lost every single round. The other fights were meh. Worst Bellator I've seen. We did see the best womans 115 pound fighter though score her first TKO so, that is a plus. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:13 pm | |
| I didn't turn it on till the end of the 2nd rd, the color guy certainly thought Imada was up 2-0 entering the 3rd, which aside from one punch that busted his eye up, was an Imada rnd imo.
Hometown treatment? sounds like it.
From what I did see, it was a pretty spirited fight. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:16 pm | |
| Decision was so bad the hometown crowd boo'd it. Imada should be furious, and Curran and Alvaraz felt Imada won the fight based on their reactions. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:26 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Decision was so bad the hometown crowd boo'd it. Imada should be furious, and Curran and Alvaraz felt Imada won the fight based on their reactions.
and how much $$$ was on the line with that decision? I know curran was holding a check worth $100G's. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:36 pm | |
| 100k plus the purse for the title fight plus whatever endorsements and contracts the tournament winner will now receive. Horrible for Imada. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:04 pm | |
| cant watc im in san marcos no foxsouthwest, what happenewd in other fights | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:24 pm | |
| Fuji won via questionable stoppage, but she was dominating anyway, and two no name HWs bored the crowd to tears. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:33 pm | |
| so the women were entertaining? | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:37 pm | |
| Well, no. It was typical of a womans fight not featuring Cyborg. Bad striking and average grappling. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:39 pm | |
| i remember their womens tourny seeming pretty stacked when i looked at it hopefully someone entertainibg emerges for the sports sake and bellatora. only 1 heavy fight? | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:00 am | |
| This event was the worst in Bellator history. Not only did it show that Bellator, and MMA in general, doesn't have good HW talent enough to support a tournament like this, it also shows that womens MMA is still leagues behind mens. This doesn't do anything to hype either upcoming tournament.
Not only did they posion the well regarding their next two tournaments, the worst decision of 2010 easily happened in the finals of their tournament. This decision was as bad as some of the all time classic robberys, like Ninja-Rampage or Hamill-Bisping. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:05 am | |
| thats too bad i wont turn my back on bellator yet though | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:12 am | |
| WOW!! Just watched the fight
Holy fuck shoes did Imada just get dicked out of 100k and a title shot. Bull-fucking-shit. Imada just straight up had more will to win and pushed this fight. I am fucking pissed right now | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:17 am | |
| thats too bad for imada wonder if anything will come of this | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:56 am | |
| Turrible. No way Curran deserved to win that fight. I was getting so frustrated watching this guy NOT engage. People were expecting Imada to be the one dimensional guy wasting time trying to do one thing but he engaged standing, in the clinch, he scored the only takedowns....Curran had one highlight in this fight and he backed away. Curran is a well rounded fighter but he looked very inexperienced out there and shitty judges let him off the hook. Thats the second Curran fight in a row where the final bell sounded and i was was expecting the other guy to have his hand raised. I can see how judges gave Curran the Huerta fight, but this was just robbery.
I had it 30-27 Imada, maybe 29-28 Imada.
That said, Curran will probably be a better fight for Alvarez. I don't believe Pat fought anywhere near his potential tonight...the guy who fought Huerta will give EA a better fight than Imada...let's just hope that guy shows up because Curran gave Imada WAY too much respect that it should have lost him the fight.
Can't say i liked tonight's card. Bellator needs to hide these HW's from the public. With the exception of two weeks ago, maybe, each of their HW fights have been fat, love handle, sweaty hairy backs, lousy tattoo, white trash, beer belly, freestyle shitters who bore the fuck out of me everytime.
Enjoyed the chick fight. | |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:48 am | |
| I actually thought Alvarez was gonna call the judges out for that shitty decision when he was on the mic. Fucking horrible. MMA judges get it wrong far to often. I don't know what the solution is but something needs to be done. Imada controlled the fight from start to finish, should've won 30-27 unanimously. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:14 am | |
| Eddie looked like he was going to say something initially, but chose to be diplomatic about it. But you could tell from body language that both Eddie and Pat knew the decision was very wrong.
To the heavyweight tournament situation ; Yes, Bellator should sign Kimbo Slice. We'd see him fight against the average HW talent out there south of the UFC/Strikeforce hold on the division. I think if there would be anything that might make people take a second look at this would be Kimbo in a more fitting situation for someone with his experience and ability. I don't know that he wouldn't be competitive. | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:23 am | |
| This is the problem with mma judging you never know what they are looking for or what holds more weight in their eyes. In the BJ/Edgar fight 2 takedowns which had BJ on his back for .02 seconds each were huge for Frankie in those judges eyes. But these judges didn't think Imada's takedowns ment shit. One thing these morons had in common with the morons that gave Frankie his belt is that to them backing up and circling the whole fight while landing the occasional inside leg kick means your winning the standup.
Another thing is how these guys viewed the clinch on the cage. In the Randy/Vera fight Randy held Vera against the cage, didn't get a takedown, and it was viewed as Randy controlling Vera. In this fight it was viewed as Pat stopping the takedown. You just never know | |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Fedor and GSP Posts : 3124 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 44 Location : Houston, TX
| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:16 am | |
| It was just pure garbage. I'd love to hear the judges explanation for why they scored it that way. I'm still pissed about it this morning. I hate to see someone get robbed like that after such a tough fight. | |
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OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:19 am | |
| Didn't get to watch it because of Rangers and Royals games. Sucks because if 2 out of 3 teams between Tx, KC, Houston are playing on Thursday then I don't get to watch. I'm asleep before the replay comes on. | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:22 am | |
| - Bigs03 wrote:
- It was just pure garbage. I'd love to hear the judges explanation for why they scored it that way. I'm still pissed about it this morning. I hate to see someone get robbed like that after such a tough fight.
Yeah especially when you controll the whole fight get cut with a last minute combo and they act like that one combo won the fight. It's crazy! | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:24 am | |
| This is the worst season of Bellator ever. It started great but has been crawling to .. wat | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:27 am | |
| Worst season? compared to the spanish language season no one got to see in the US save the youtube highlights? This season has ruled with every event except lastnights. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:02 pm | |
| - Bigs03 wrote:
- It was just pure garbage. I'd love to hear the judges explanation for why they scored it that way. I'm still pissed about it this morning. I hate to see someone get robbed like that after such a tough fight.
And this is exasperated by the fact that 100k was on the line. A loss for Imada at this point is not that big a deal, but when is he going to get another shot at that much cash? That to me is where the real crime lies. | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Bellator discussion 6/10 Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:06 pm | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- Bigs03 wrote:
- It was just pure garbage. I'd love to hear the judges explanation for why they scored it that way. I'm still pissed about it this morning. I hate to see someone get robbed like that after such a tough fight.
And this is exasperated by the fact that 100k was on the line. A loss for Imada at this point is not that big a deal, but when is he going to get another shot at that much cash? That to me is where the real crime lies. It sure was a crime. I watched the fight again on my lunch break just to make sure I wasn't talking out my ass which I do sometimes and I am even more amazed they gave that fight to Pat | |
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