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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:10 am | |
| - hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- NBrooks5 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- I think that floyd is going to badly beat Pacquiao. He's just too long and smart for Pac. Pac's reckless abandon style will be neutralized by the timing and ring IQ of Floyd. This fight will be stopped in the tenth.
I agree Floyd wins, but I think he becomes the aggressor and is walking Manny down and ending it inside 8. He couldnt stop JMM but he is going to walk down and stop Manny? I hope he tries we will get to see Floyd on his back. JMM is a counter punching Orthodox fighter. Styles make fights. Manny is a balls out swarming southpaw. The recipe for a stoppage is there especially when Manny's hypothetical opponent in this case is a guy that has an unbelieveable right hand/ lead right. Floyd's advantages in reach, technique and timing prevail in this fight. Floyd doesnt have the power to stop Pac. Pac has taken a ton of power punchers shots and they could not hurt him but now a guy who has only one stoppage in 7 fights and who has never stopped a true WW is going to stop Manny. I just dont understand it. |
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:13 am | |
| Mark you do realize Floyd choose not to stop Juan and that it was a tune up ? he could have easily stopped him.
Manny is so open and wild he could walk straight into a counter from Floyd. |
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dmar5143 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : marciano pep robinson greb manny pac Posts : 1619 Join date : 2010-05-12 Age : 81 Location : charlotte nc
| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:28 pm | |
| floyd stoping pac is a reasonable possibilty..manny is NOT a real welterweight to begine with..hes hitable indeed but not wild.his hand speed and punching accuracy is exceptional..floyds timming with his counterpunching catching manny coming in makes a stopage a realistic expectation for floyd fans...mannys power fast hand speed-yes in combinations its much faster than floyds-and unexpected angles of the delivery of the punches also makes a realistic stopage of floyd a resonable expectation for pac fans.. floyd is very hitable also and im not buying lol a puny sholder roll or the great defence he supposinly has as a reason pac wont touch him...floyds defense has never been tested or underfire with the presure that pac will bring and non stop.. with that said im worried that pacs string of fortune of beating bigger men could run out with floyd..floyd fight time will have 10-12 pounds on him..physicaly hes stronger than pac and has all the other physical advantages in his favor.. im rooting for manny not only to win but to destroy him..but i feel floyd has at least one great fight left..im leaning for floyd to win hoping im wrong....hey i thought oscar was to big to strong to powerfull also and im glad pac cleaned his clock..id love to be wrong in this one.. | |
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:02 pm | |
| - Ali_1748 wrote:
- Mark you do realize Floyd choose not to stop Juan and that it was a tune up ? he could have easily stopped him.
Manny is so open and wild he could walk straight into a counter from Floyd. Oh come on do not make an excuse for Fraud Gayweather please. I just want this fight to happen so we can find out. |
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hardcoreBEE24 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Thomas Hearns Posts : 1285 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Massapequa Park, NY
| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:27 pm | |
| - soonermark890 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- NBrooks5 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- I think that floyd is going to badly beat Pacquiao. He's just too long and smart for Pac. Pac's reckless abandon style will be neutralized by the timing and ring IQ of Floyd. This fight will be stopped in the tenth.
I agree Floyd wins, but I think he becomes the aggressor and is walking Manny down and ending it inside 8. He couldnt stop JMM but he is going to walk down and stop Manny? I hope he tries we will get to see Floyd on his back. JMM is a counter punching Orthodox fighter. Styles make fights. Manny is a balls out swarming southpaw. The recipe for a stoppage is there especially when Manny's hypothetical opponent in this case is a guy that has an unbelieveable right hand/ lead right. Floyd's advantages in reach, technique and timing prevail in this fight. Floyd doesnt have the power to stop Pac. Pac has taken a ton of power punchers shots and they could not hurt him but now a guy who has only one stoppage in 7 fights and who has never stopped a true WW is going to stop Manny. I just dont understand it. Then I don't think that you understand boxing. Floyd love him or hate him is the best boxer the last 25 years has seen. He is an incredible counter puncher that possesses natural advantages in this contest. Manny has been in two recent wars with a counter punching great in Juan Manuel Marquez. If we look at how close those fights were we can get an idea on how well Manny handles counter punching orthodox fighters. Now picture that against the best counter puncher in the sport in Floyd Mayweather Jr. Also understand that Manny will be giving up five inches in reach and roughly five years in experience at this weight class. Manny couldn't get Marquez out of there either what makes you think he can KO a guy who has only been Knocked down once in his career and recently just took a huge right hand from arguably the hardest hitting guy in the division? | |
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:36 pm | |
| - hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- NBrooks5 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- I think that floyd is going to badly beat Pacquiao. He's just too long and smart for Pac. Pac's reckless abandon style will be neutralized by the timing and ring IQ of Floyd. This fight will be stopped in the tenth.
I agree Floyd wins, but I think he becomes the aggressor and is walking Manny down and ending it inside 8. He couldnt stop JMM but he is going to walk down and stop Manny? I hope he tries we will get to see Floyd on his back. JMM is a counter punching Orthodox fighter. Styles make fights. Manny is a balls out swarming southpaw. The recipe for a stoppage is there especially when Manny's hypothetical opponent in this case is a guy that has an unbelieveable right hand/ lead right. Floyd's advantages in reach, technique and timing prevail in this fight. Floyd doesnt have the power to stop Pac. Pac has taken a ton of power punchers shots and they could not hurt him but now a guy who has only one stoppage in 7 fights and who has never stopped a true WW is going to stop Manny. I just dont understand it. Then I don't think that you understand boxing. Floyd love him or hate him is the best boxer the last 25 years has seen. He is an incredible counter puncher that possesses natural advantages in this contest. Manny has been in two recent wars with a counter punching great in Juan Manuel Marquez. If we look at how close those fights were we can get an idea on how well Manny handles counter punching orthodox fighters. Now picture that against the best counter puncher in the sport in Floyd Mayweather Jr. Also understand that Manny will be giving up five inches in reach and roughly five years in experience at this weight class. Manny couldn't get Marquez out of there either what makes you think he can KO a guy who has only been Knocked down once in his career and recently just took a huge right hand from arguably the hardest hitting guy in the division? I understand that Floyd has never in his career faced a guy like Pac. Pac is the fastest fighter he has fought and he has great power. Also he throws tons of combos. You are telling me that Floyd. A guy who has never stopped a WW is going to KO the P4P BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD. Also how in the hell is Floyd the best he has not fought the best to be the best. If he beats Pac then MAYBE. Floyd took one big punch in a fight against a 38 year old Shane and then Shane never put on the pressure. If you think that will happen if Pac catches Floyd then you do not know boxing. |
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hardcoreBEE24 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:50 pm | |
| - soonermark890 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- NBrooks5 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- I think that floyd is going to badly beat Pacquiao. He's just too long and smart for Pac. Pac's reckless abandon style will be neutralized by the timing and ring IQ of Floyd. This fight will be stopped in the tenth.
I agree Floyd wins, but I think he becomes the aggressor and is walking Manny down and ending it inside 8. He couldnt stop JMM but he is going to walk down and stop Manny? I hope he tries we will get to see Floyd on his back. JMM is a counter punching Orthodox fighter. Styles make fights. Manny is a balls out swarming southpaw. The recipe for a stoppage is there especially when Manny's hypothetical opponent in this case is a guy that has an unbelieveable right hand/ lead right. Floyd's advantages in reach, technique and timing prevail in this fight. Floyd doesnt have the power to stop Pac. Pac has taken a ton of power punchers shots and they could not hurt him but now a guy who has only one stoppage in 7 fights and who has never stopped a true WW is going to stop Manny. I just dont understand it. Then I don't think that you understand boxing. Floyd love him or hate him is the best boxer the last 25 years has seen. He is an incredible counter puncher that possesses natural advantages in this contest. Manny has been in two recent wars with a counter punching great in Juan Manuel Marquez. If we look at how close those fights were we can get an idea on how well Manny handles counter punching orthodox fighters. Now picture that against the best counter puncher in the sport in Floyd Mayweather Jr. Also understand that Manny will be giving up five inches in reach and roughly five years in experience at this weight class. Manny couldn't get Marquez out of there either what makes you think he can KO a guy who has only been Knocked down once in his career and recently just took a huge right hand from arguably the hardest hitting guy in the division? I understand that Floyd has never in his career faced a guy like Pac. Pac is the fastest fighter he has fought and he has great power. Also he throws tons of combos. You are telling me that Floyd. A guy who has never stopped a WW is going to KO the P4P BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD. Also how in the hell is Floyd the best he has not fought the best to be the best. If he beats Pac then MAYBE.
Floyd took one big punch in a fight against a 38 year old Shane and then Shane never put on the pressure. If you think that will happen if Pac catches Floyd then you do not know boxing. And who on Pac's (extremely stacked) resume even comes close to Floyd in terms of total boxing package? He is going to stop him on cuts. Watch and see. His right hand will cut Pac up. Pac is NOT a true welterweight. Floyd has fought fast fighters. One in his last fight and that 38 year old just came off of a great victory. Mark my words Shane wins his next fight and makes Floyd look that much better, also Zab Judah is an extremely fast naturally bigger southpaw and Floyd blew him out. Shane didn't put pressure on because Floyd stepped it up and with proper timing and skills took Shane's advantages away. Shane was trying to set up Floyd with double jab overhand right combo's and Floyd would shoot the counter lead right before Shane could get off his own right. He would parry the double left and time when the right was going to come and bang! Throw a right of his own. Pacquiao's last two fights against a great counter puncher ended in two controversial decisions. Floyd is better, bigger and faster than Juan Manuel Marquez and I think that he will beat the brakes off of Pacquiao (who I will be cheering for) just like I said he would beat the brakes off of Mosley. | |
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kbyte Yellow Belt
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:00 pm | |
| When you put it like that Hardcore I start to fear for Pac. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:03 pm | |
| "I understand that Floyd has never in his career faced a guy like Pac. Pac is the fastest fighter he has fought and he has great power. Also he throws tons of combos. You are telling me that Floyd. A guy who has never stopped a WW is going to KO the P4P BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD. Also how in the hell is Floyd the best he has not fought the best to be the best. If he beats Pac then MAYBE.
Floyd took one big punch in a fight against a 38 year old Shane and then Shane never put on the pressure. If you think that will happen if Pac catches Floyd then you do not know boxing."
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:18 pm | |
| - hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- NBrooks5 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- I think that floyd is going to badly beat Pacquiao. He's just too long and smart for Pac. Pac's reckless abandon style will be neutralized by the timing and ring IQ of Floyd. This fight will be stopped in the tenth.
I agree Floyd wins, but I think he becomes the aggressor and is walking Manny down and ending it inside 8. He couldnt stop JMM but he is going to walk down and stop Manny? I hope he tries we will get to see Floyd on his back. JMM is a counter punching Orthodox fighter. Styles make fights. Manny is a balls out swarming southpaw. The recipe for a stoppage is there especially when Manny's hypothetical opponent in this case is a guy that has an unbelieveable right hand/ lead right. Floyd's advantages in reach, technique and timing prevail in this fight. Floyd doesnt have the power to stop Pac. Pac has taken a ton of power punchers shots and they could not hurt him but now a guy who has only one stoppage in 7 fights and who has never stopped a true WW is going to stop Manny. I just dont understand it. Then I don't think that you understand boxing. Floyd love him or hate him is the best boxer the last 25 years has seen. He is an incredible counter puncher that possesses natural advantages in this contest. Manny has been in two recent wars with a counter punching great in Juan Manuel Marquez. If we look at how close those fights were we can get an idea on how well Manny handles counter punching orthodox fighters. Now picture that against the best counter puncher in the sport in Floyd Mayweather Jr. Also understand that Manny will be giving up five inches in reach and roughly five years in experience at this weight class. Manny couldn't get Marquez out of there either what makes you think he can KO a guy who has only been Knocked down once in his career and recently just took a huge right hand from arguably the hardest hitting guy in the division? I understand that Floyd has never in his career faced a guy like Pac. Pac is the fastest fighter he has fought and he has great power. Also he throws tons of combos. You are telling me that Floyd. A guy who has never stopped a WW is going to KO the P4P BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD. Also how in the hell is Floyd the best he has not fought the best to be the best. If he beats Pac then MAYBE.
Floyd took one big punch in a fight against a 38 year old Shane and then Shane never put on the pressure. If you think that will happen if Pac catches Floyd then you do not know boxing. And who on Pac's (extremely stacked) resume even comes close to Floyd in terms of total boxing package? He is going to stop him on cuts. Watch and see. His right hand will cut Pac up. Pac is NOT a true welterweight. Floyd has fought fast fighters. One in his last fight and that 38 year old just came off of a great victory. Mark my words Shane wins his next fight and makes Floyd look that much better, also Zab Judah is an extremely fast naturally bigger southpaw and Floyd blew him out. Shane didn't put pressure on because Floyd stepped it up and with proper timing and skills took Shane's advantages away. Shane was trying to set up Floyd with double jab overhand right combo's and Floyd would shoot the counter lead right before Shane could get off his own right. He would parry the double left and time when the right was going to come and bang! Throw a right of his own. Pacquiao's last two fights against a great counter puncher ended in two controversial decisions. Floyd is better, bigger and faster than Juan Manuel Marquez and I think that he will beat the brakes off of Pacquiao (who I will be cheering for) just like I said he would beat the brakes off of Mosley. Well lets see that last victory over a cheating Margo came 15 months before he fought Floyd. So I guess age or ring rust could not have set in by then right? Zab give me a break. Again Pacs speed and power will give him fits. But hey I could be wrong. I just had a problem believing that Floyd will KO Pac. |
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dmar5143 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : marciano pep robinson greb manny pac Posts : 1619 Join date : 2010-05-12 Age : 81 Location : charlotte nc
| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:23 pm | |
| somehow i think folks are watching a fight that never happened..1.mosley did not just come off a great win..the margo fight his last was almost a year and a half ago..hardly recent..judah was not a huge welter at all and not as fast as pack with handspeed in bunches..mosley showed nothing.what speed of hand what speed of foot..common guys ..this is to much especialy calling floyd the best boxer in the last 25 years..sweet pea was better and a greater fighter..footwork angles hand speed jabs lots of them and boxing abilty camacho in the mid 80s was far better..floyd is an excellent fighter yes but lets not make him the greatest thing since sliced bread.. he didnt carry marquez..if you can ko a guy without much effort as suggested then you do it..floyd realized marquez could not fight moving foward effectively is a basic counterpuncher himself and said..why take a risk i can coast easly to a win..shane blew it after he hurt floyd big time twice..floyd steped up to no plate..he held on for dear life and shane didnt push him off nor did he toss a barrage of punches right after..pac indeed will.tons of them..after that round which mosley allowed floyd to survive mosley was done..tight as a drum all night shaking his hands and fought like a zombie who threw no punches at all.. lets stop the fantasyland..in my post above i pic floyd to win and litterly said nooo ending will suprize me at all..anything can happen..a draw i rule out as an ending..that would shock me..both are terrific fighters that i call great..and i dont use the word great liberaly in boxing..ive seen many a fighter from days before that would clean both there clocks in a heartbeat....neither figfhter has fought a fighter of there caliber..if anyone tells me differnt well..lol lol.fantasyland again..this fight is not going to be a cakewalk for either fighter ..if a shocking one punch ko happens early well outside that there both in for the fight of there lives..ill take the saying of you 2 guys..if anyone tells me different then there wrong.they dont know what there talking about....floyd indeed has height and reach advantages for sure and is the bigger guy..still its a hard fight for the 2 of them.. | |
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hardcoreBEE24 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Thomas Hearns Posts : 1285 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Massapequa Park, NY
| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:24 pm | |
| - soonermark890 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- soonermark890 wrote:
- NBrooks5 wrote:
- hardcoreBEE24 wrote:
- I think that floyd is going to badly beat Pacquiao. He's just too long and smart for Pac. Pac's reckless abandon style will be neutralized by the timing and ring IQ of Floyd. This fight will be stopped in the tenth.
I agree Floyd wins, but I think he becomes the aggressor and is walking Manny down and ending it inside 8. He couldnt stop JMM but he is going to walk down and stop Manny? I hope he tries we will get to see Floyd on his back. JMM is a counter punching Orthodox fighter. Styles make fights. Manny is a balls out swarming southpaw. The recipe for a stoppage is there especially when Manny's hypothetical opponent in this case is a guy that has an unbelieveable right hand/ lead right. Floyd's advantages in reach, technique and timing prevail in this fight. Floyd doesnt have the power to stop Pac. Pac has taken a ton of power punchers shots and they could not hurt him but now a guy who has only one stoppage in 7 fights and who has never stopped a true WW is going to stop Manny. I just dont understand it. Then I don't think that you understand boxing. Floyd love him or hate him is the best boxer the last 25 years has seen. He is an incredible counter puncher that possesses natural advantages in this contest. Manny has been in two recent wars with a counter punching great in Juan Manuel Marquez. If we look at how close those fights were we can get an idea on how well Manny handles counter punching orthodox fighters. Now picture that against the best counter puncher in the sport in Floyd Mayweather Jr. Also understand that Manny will be giving up five inches in reach and roughly five years in experience at this weight class. Manny couldn't get Marquez out of there either what makes you think he can KO a guy who has only been Knocked down once in his career and recently just took a huge right hand from arguably the hardest hitting guy in the division? I understand that Floyd has never in his career faced a guy like Pac. Pac is the fastest fighter he has fought and he has great power. Also he throws tons of combos. You are telling me that Floyd. A guy who has never stopped a WW is going to KO the P4P BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD. Also how in the hell is Floyd the best he has not fought the best to be the best. If he beats Pac then MAYBE.
Floyd took one big punch in a fight against a 38 year old Shane and then Shane never put on the pressure. If you think that will happen if Pac catches Floyd then you do not know boxing. And who on Pac's (extremely stacked) resume even comes close to Floyd in terms of total boxing package? He is going to stop him on cuts. Watch and see. His right hand will cut Pac up. Pac is NOT a true welterweight. Floyd has fought fast fighters. One in his last fight and that 38 year old just came off of a great victory. Mark my words Shane wins his next fight and makes Floyd look that much better, also Zab Judah is an extremely fast naturally bigger southpaw and Floyd blew him out. Shane didn't put pressure on because Floyd stepped it up and with proper timing and skills took Shane's advantages away. Shane was trying to set up Floyd with double jab overhand right combo's and Floyd would shoot the counter lead right before Shane could get off his own right. He would parry the double left and time when the right was going to come and bang! Throw a right of his own. Pacquiao's last two fights against a great counter puncher ended in two controversial decisions. Floyd is better, bigger and faster than Juan Manuel Marquez and I think that he will beat the brakes off of Pacquiao (who I will be cheering for) just like I said he would beat the brakes off of Mosley. Well lets see that last victory over a cheating Margo came 15 months before he fought Floyd. So I guess age or ring rust could not have set in by then right?
Zab give me a break. Again Pacs speed and power will give him fits. But hey I could be wrong. I just had a problem believing that Floyd will KO Pac. Floyd isn't the most active of fighters either. Elite fighters make great fighters look bad. What does Margarito cheating have anything to do with Shane getting him out of there? Anyway If they fight my heart is with the Filipino but my money is on Floyd. | |
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hardcoreBEE24 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Thomas Hearns Posts : 1285 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Massapequa Park, NY
| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:26 pm | |
| - dmar5143 wrote:
- somehow i think folks are watching a fight that never happened..1.mosley did not just come off a great win..the margo fight his last was almost a year and a half ago..hardly recent..judah was not a huge welter at all and not as fast as pack with handspeed in bunches..mosley showed nothing.what speed of hand what speed of foot..common guys ..this is to much especialy calling floyd the best boxer in the last 25 years..sweet pea was better and a greater fighter..footwork angles hand speed jabs lots of them and boxing abilty camacho in the mid 80s was far better..floyd is an excellent fighter yes but lets not make him the greatest thing since sliced bread..
he didnt carry marquez..if you can ko a guy without much effort as suggested then you do it..floyd realized marquez could not fight moving foward effectively is a basic counterpuncher himself and said..why take a risk i can coast easly to a win..shane blew it after he hurt floyd big time twice..floyd steped up to no plate..he held on for dear life and shane didnt push him off nor did he toss a barrage of punches right after..pac indeed will.tons of them..after that round which mosley allowed floyd to survive mosley was done..tight as a drum all night shaking his hands and fought like a zombie who threw no punches at all.. lets stop the fantasyland..in my post above i pic floyd to win and litterly said nooo ending will suprize me at all..anything can happen..a draw i rule out as an ending..that would shock me..both are terrific fighters that i call great..and i dont use the word great liberaly in boxing..ive seen many a fighter from days before that would clean both there clocks in a heartbeat....neither figfhter has fought a fighter of there caliber..if anyone tells me differnt well..lol lol.fantasyland again..this fight is not going to be a cakewalk for either fighter ..if a shocking one punch ko happens early well outside that there both in for the fight of there lives..ill take the saying of you 2 guys..if anyone tells me different then there wrong.they dont know what there talking about....floyd indeed has height and reach advantages for sure and is the bigger guy..still its a hard fight for the 2 of them.. I respectfully disagree with most of what you said. | |
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dmar5143 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : marciano pep robinson greb manny pac Posts : 1619 Join date : 2010-05-12 Age : 81 Location : charlotte nc
| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:55 pm | |
| no problem hardcore..im looking foward to a fight like this like i did hearns-leonard duran -ray hagler-hearns and ali-frazier1..lets hope its truly a great fight.. | |
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:32 am | |
| I'm in the group that puts Floyd in the discussion for the best fighter of the last 25 years. With that said, styles make fights. At this point in his career, Floyd does not chase knock outs. He let's them come to him. His recent KO record is not an indication of his power or offensive skill, but rather his temperament.
Hatton kept pressing towards the end of the fight and got stopped. Baldomir and De La Hoya had the benefit of great chins and size, so they was never in trouble. Judah, JMM, Mosely both backed off as the fight went on, and survived Floyd's increased pressure in the later rounds (but not without taking a lot of unanswered flush shots).
Manny does not fight well in a backpedal and is hittable. He will likely press throughout the fight. So if Floyd is able to dominate him like he has other guys, then a stoppage is possible. Pac has not dealt with taking flush shots for 12 rounds against someone who hits as hard and as accurately as Floyd. I'm not saying that it will happen, just that it's more likely because of Pac's offensive style. |
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dmar5143 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : marciano pep robinson greb manny pac Posts : 1619 Join date : 2010-05-12 Age : 81 Location : charlotte nc
| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:33 am | |
| good outlook ..and yes hes ONE of the best fighters in the last 25 years.pac for sure is hitable and like you i believe floyd has decent power.and yes pac can and will hit floyd. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:15 pm | |
| not even Tee Hee johnsons SOuthpaw stance can affect Floyd | |
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KrazyHorseBennett Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:38 pm | |
| This is what I love so much about boxing discussion. Some will dissect it to the point to over-analyzing it and seeing/predicting things that simply don't exist. At times, looking at a fight that closely is warranted but this time, IMO, it's just not. Floyd's style crushes Manny's. PERIOD.
All I will say is that Floyd is going to whip Manny's ass so bad, it will be so decisive that Floyd will never get the respect he deserves for winning the fight. It's going to be shocking to many of you how easy the fight is going to be. The calls of Manny being too small amongst other excuses will be flowing like a broken BP oil rig. I expect people here to man up and not act that way. If that's how you're going to act after the fact, just say it now before the fight. Let's not be ESPN here.
And I will be more than happy to put my money where my mouth is when the time comes. To me it's the only way to separate those who believe what they say from those who are simply full of shit. | |
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4445Frank Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:05 pm | |
| I suspect both Pacquiao and Mayweather have unlimited potential according to today's standards. My opinion is that Pac would've been great in any era. However, both fighters will be somewhat of a mystery until they face each other. In doing this, they face the greatest fighter they've ever fought. Let's stop the "You don't know boxing because you think Pac or Floyd will win." This is Ray Leonard vs. Tommy Hearns, Ali vs. Frazier, etc. You never know what's going to happen when two great fighters mix it up. It's okay to apply boxing knowledge to study and predict these fights. Though, believe me when I say that who ever says, "If you pick Floyd or Pac to win this, you know nothing of the sport" needs to take a long look in the mirror. In other words, these are two bad motherfuckers. LOL | |
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KrazyHorseBennett Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Charles Bennett is the second coming of Christ. Posts : 1077 Join date : 2010-04-15 Age : 52
| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:17 pm | |
| - 4445Frank wrote:
- I suspect both Pacquiao and Mayweather have unlimited potential according to today's standards. My opinion is that Pac would've been great in any era. However, both fighters will be somewhat of a mystery until they face each other. In doing this, they face the greatest fighter they've ever fought. Let's stop the "You don't know boxing because you think Pac or Floyd will win." This is Ray Leonard vs. Tommy Hearns, Ali vs. Frazier, etc. You never know what's going to happen when two great fighters mix it up. It's okay to apply boxing knowledge to study and predict these fights. Though, believe me when I say that who ever says, "If you pick Floyd or Pac to win this, you know nothing of the sport" needs to take a long look in the mirror. In other words, these are two bad motherfuckers. LOL
I'm not sure if you're pointing a finger at me as you're being purposely vague. If you are, don't dance around it. What I am simply saying is those of you that are analyzing it to death are going to shit themselves because it's going to be a whitewash. Say all you want about how this is the best fighter either has fought, say whatever you want. But Floyd is going to kick the ever loving shit out of Manny. He will dominate the fight so badly that he won't get the credit he deserves for it. It will be more about Manny's supposed disadvantages than Mayweather just being to goddamned good. Bank on it, bookmark it, tattoo it on my ass. It's not even going to be close. | |
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| Subject: Re: Do you think Pac's southpaw stance will bother Mayweather? Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:35 pm | |
| - KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
- This is what I love so much about boxing discussion. Some will dissect it to the point to over-analyzing it and seeing/predicting things that simply don't exist. At times, looking at a fight that closely is warranted but this time, IMO, it's just not. Floyd's style crushes Manny's. PERIOD.
All I will say is that Floyd is going to whip Manny's ass so bad, it will be so decisive that Floyd will never get the respect he deserves for winning the fight. It's going to be shocking to many of you how easy the fight is going to be. The calls of Manny being too small amongst other excuses will be flowing like a broken BP oil rig. I expect people here to man up and not act that way. If that's how you're going to act after the fact, just say it now before the fight. Let's not be ESPN here.
And I will be more than happy to put my money where my mouth is when the time comes. To me it's the only way to separate those who believe what they say from those who are simply full of shit. I've learned not to bet against Pac. He defies logic. It's easy to for me to think that Pac will outwork him or catch him in an exchange. Pac's quick enough to get in his range to fight. Floyd's going to have deal with Pac's ridiculous pace. It will be much harder for him to dictate the tempo than against anyone he's fought recently. Floyd's the obvious favorite, but I'll need to see it to believe it. If Floyd wins decisively I'll be the 1st person to last person to discredit the win. |
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