Title bout All Time Lightheavyweight championship

Ran through the game a while back one-time for each bout and this is how it played out in a double elimination tournament.
15 rounds, 3 judges, no knockdown rule.

Its all a game, but still , there were some very suprising results. We are talking about the greatest here, so anything could be possible. Still, it seemed a bit odd to me that Ezzard Charles (my pick for greatest ever at 175) would go out by early KO or that Roy Jones would fail to earn a single win in the tournament. (of course he did draw a couple tough matches for his style)





Round One



Michael Spinks vs Archie Moore Spinks MD15 Moore Spinks 1-0 Moore 0-1

Bob Foster vs Billy Conn Conn SD15 Foster Conn 1-0 Foster 0-1

Roy Jones Jr vs Darius Michalzewski Michalczewski TKO5 Jones DM 1-0 Jones 0-1

Gene Tunney vs Ezzard Charles Tunney TKO(cuts)14 Charles Tunney 1-0 Charles 0-1

Tommy Loughran vs Jimmy Bivins Bivins KO9 Loughran Bivins 1-0 Loughran 0-1

Maxie Rosenbloom vs Harry Greb Greb TKO 15 Rosenbloom Greb 1-0 Rosenbloom 0-1

Virgil Hill vs Matthew Saad Muhammed Hill UD15 Muhammed Hill 1-0 Muhammed 0-1

Dwight Qawi vs Harold Johnson Johnson SD15 Qawi Johnson 1-0 Qawi 0-1

Round Two

Michael Spinks vs Billy Conn Both fighters advance on a draw 1-0-1

Darius Michaczewski vs GeneTunney Tunney W15 2-0 DM 1-1

Jimmy Bivins vs Harry Greb Greb W15 2-0 Bivins 1-1

Virgil Hill vs Harold Johnson Hill WS15 2-0 Johnson 1-1

Archie Moore vs Bob Foster Bob Foster KO7 1-1 Moore Eliminated at 0-2

RJJ vs Ezzard Charles Ezzard Charles KO14 1-1 RJJ Eliminated at 0-2

Tommy Loughran vs Maxie Rosenbloom Rosenbloom W15 1-1 Loughran eliminated at 0-2

Saad Muhammed vs Dwight Qawi Qawi TKO13(cuts/swelling) 1-1 Saad Muhammed eliminated a t0-2

Round Three

Gene Tunney vs Maxie Rosenbloom RosenbloomWS15 2-1 Tunney 2-1

Harry Greb vs Bob Foster Greb WSD15 2-1 Foster 2-1

Virgil Hill vs Dwight Qawi Qawi W15 2-1 Hill 2-1

Billy Conn vs Ezzard Charles Charles W15 2-1 Conn 1-0-1

Michael Spinks vs Harold Johnson Spinks KO9 1-0-1 Johnson eliminated 1-2

Darius Michalzewski vs Jimmy Bivins BivinsW15 2-1 DM elminated 1-2

Round Four


Michael Spinks vs Maxie Rosenbloom Spinks WS15 2-0-1 Rosenbloom eliminated @2-2

Billy Conn vs Harry Greb Conn WTKO9 2-0-1 Greb eliminated @ 2-2

Jimmy Bivins vs Gene Tunney Gene Tunney KO15 3-1 Bivins eliminated @ 2-2

Ezzard Charles vs Virgil Hill Ezzard Charles W15 3-1 Hill eliminated @ 2-2

Bob Foster vs Dwight Qawi Bob Foster KO12 3-1 Qawi eliminated @ 2-2

ROUND FIVE

Random Draw for a Bye won by Ezzard Charles

Bob Foster vs Billy Conn Billy ConnWS15 3-0-1 Foster eliminated @ 3-2

Michael Spinks vs Gene Tunney Michael Spinks W15 3-0-1 Tunney eliminated @ 3-2

Round Six

Random Draw for a Bye won by Conn

Michael Spinks vs Ezzard Charles Michael Spinks KO5 4-0-1 Charles eliminated @ 3-2

Championship

Michael Spinks vs Billy Conn Spinks TKO 13 Conn

boxinglawyer wrote:

Ran through the game a while back one-time for each bout and this is how it played out in a double elimination tournament.
15 rounds, 3 judges, no knockdown rule.

Its all a game, but still , there were some very suprising results. We are talking about the greatest here, so anything could be possible. Still, it seemed a bit odd to me that Ezzard Charles (my pick for greatest ever at 175) would go out by early KO or that Roy Jones would fail to earn a single win in the tournament. (of course he did draw a couple tough matches for his style)





Round One



Michael Spinks vs Archie Moore Spinks MD15 Moore Spinks 1-0 Moore 0-1

Bob Foster vs Billy Conn Conn SD15 Foster Conn 1-0 Foster 0-1

Roy Jones Jr vs Darius Michalzewski Michalczewski TKO5 Jones DM 1-0 Jones 0-1

Gene Tunney vs Ezzard Charles Tunney TKO(cuts)14 Charles Tunney 1-0 Charles 0-1

Tommy Loughran vs Jimmy Bivins Bivins KO9 Loughran Bivins 1-0 Loughran 0-1

Maxie Rosenbloom vs Harry Greb Greb TKO 15 Rosenbloom Greb 1-0 Rosenbloom 0-1

Virgil Hill vs Matthew Saad Muhammed Hill UD15 Muhammed Hill 1-0 Muhammed 0-1

Dwight Qawi vs Harold Johnson Johnson SD15 Qawi Johnson 1-0 Qawi 0-1

Round Two

Michael Spinks vs Billy Conn Both fighters advance on a draw 1-0-1

Darius Michaczewski vs GeneTunney Tunney W15 2-0 DM 1-1

Jimmy Bivins vs Harry Greb Greb W15 2-0 Bivins 1-1

Virgil Hill vs Harold Johnson Hill WS15 2-0 Johnson 1-1

Archie Moore vs Bob Foster Bob Foster KO7 1-1 Moore Eliminated at 0-2

RJJ vs Ezzard Charles Ezzard Charles KO14 1-1 RJJ Eliminated at 0-2

Tommy Loughran vs Maxie Rosenbloom Rosenbloom W15 1-1 Loughran eliminated at 0-2

Saad Muhammed vs Dwight Qawi Qawi TKO13(cuts/swelling) 1-1 Saad Muhammed eliminated a t0-2

Round Three

Gene Tunney vs Maxie Rosenbloom RosenbloomWS15 2-1 Tunney 2-1

Harry Greb vs Bob Foster Greb WSD15 2-1 Foster 2-1

Virgil Hill vs Dwight Qawi Qawi W15 2-1 Hill 2-1

Billy Conn vs Ezzard Charles Charles W15 2-1 Conn 1-0-1

Michael Spinks vs Harold Johnson Spinks KO9 1-0-1 Johnson eliminated 1-2

Darius Michalzewski vs Jimmy Bivins BivinsW15 2-1 DM elminated 1-2

Round Four


Michael Spinks vs Maxie Rosenbloom Spinks WS15 2-0-1 Rosenbloom eliminated @2-2

Billy Conn vs Harry Greb Conn WTKO9 2-0-1 Greb eliminated @ 2-2

Jimmy Bivins vs Gene Tunney Gene Tunney KO15 3-1 Bivins eliminated @ 2-2

Ezzard Charles vs Virgil Hill Ezzard Charles W15 3-1 Hill eliminated @ 2-2

Bob Foster vs Dwight Qawi Bob Foster KO12 3-1 Qawi eliminated @ 2-2

ROUND FIVE

Random Draw for a Bye won by Ezzard Charles

Bob Foster vs Billy Conn Billy ConnWS15 3-0-1 Foster eliminated @ 3-2

Michael Spinks vs Gene Tunney Michael Spinks W15 3-0-1 Tunney eliminated @ 3-2

Round Six

Random Draw for a Bye won by Conn

Michael Spinks vs Ezzard Charles Michael Spinks KO5 4-0-1 Charles eliminated @ 3-2

Championship

Michael Spinks vs Billy Conn Spinks TKO 13 Conn

WOW those are some startling results. Conn over Foster? Really? TWICE? Virgil Hill over Saad and Harold Johnson? Huh!

I do think a good case can be made that the right guy won.

lol fiction at its best i guess.

Boxing Lawyer, I'm really glad to see you here. However, as usual we disagree. LOL Spinks over Moore? Archie Moore? I don't know. Not taking anything away from Michael Spinks at all, but Archie has 130 kos to his credit. Hell, maybe you're right. I just can't see it.

Did Foster lose three times or am I reading this wrong?

NBrooks5 wrote:

Did Foster lose three times or am I reading this wrong?

Beat Archie and greb, lost twice to Conn.

4445Frank wrote:

Boxing Lawyer, I'm really glad to see you here. However, as usual we disagree. LOL Spinks over Moore? Archie Moore? I don't know. Not taking anything away from Michael Spinks at all, but Archie has 130 kos to his credit. Hell, maybe you're right. I just can't see it.

Actually, they are not MY opinions at all, and I disagree with a couple of the results pretty strongly. Its the results of a computer game (title bout) that I found laying around here. Its actually pretty in depth and I thought it would be fun to see what the results were. The game actually suggests running a bout three or more times to get a "average" result but I thought running it once made more sense and replicated the kind of shocking upsets we get in boxing from time to time.

lol lawyer that computer has water on its brain plus a virus..

the weird thing is i was just thinking today about who the greatest LHWs were and then i see this. loughran or jones wouldnt go 0-2.

boxinglawyer wrote:

4445Frank wrote:

Boxing Lawyer, I'm really glad to see you here. However, as usual we disagree. LOL Spinks over Moore? Archie Moore? I don't know. Not taking anything away from Michael Spinks at all, but Archie has 130 kos to his credit. Hell, maybe you're right. I just can't see it.

Actually, they are not MY opinions at all, and I disagree with a couple of the results pretty strongly. Its the results of a computer game (title bout) that I found laying around here. Its actually pretty in depth and I thought it would be fun to see what the results were. The game actually suggests running a bout three or more times to get a "average" result but I thought running it once made more sense and replicated the kind of shocking upsets we get in boxing from time to time.

Good thread. Next time leave out the computer. You're a lot smarter than the particular computer you were using.

4445Frank wrote:

boxinglawyer wrote:

4445Frank wrote:

Boxing Lawyer, I'm really glad to see you here. However, as usual we disagree. LOL Spinks over Moore? Archie Moore? I don't know. Not taking anything away from Michael Spinks at all, but Archie has 130 kos to his credit. Hell, maybe you're right. I just can't see it.

Actually, they are not MY opinions at all, and I disagree with a couple of the results pretty strongly. Its the results of a computer game (title bout) that I found laying around here. Its actually pretty in depth and I thought it would be fun to see what the results were. The game actually suggests running a bout three or more times to get a "average" result but I thought running it once made more sense and replicated the kind of shocking upsets we get in boxing from time to time.

Good thread. Next time leave out the computer. You're a lot smarter than the particular computer you were using.

i agree. you should have just put up the fighters and us decide

powerpuncher wrote:

the weird thing is i was just thinking today about who the greatest LHWs were and then i see this. loughran or jones wouldnt go 0-2.

Thats what I thought at first, but when you look a who they fought, its believable.

boxinglawyer wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

the weird thing is i was just thinking today about who the greatest LHWs were and then i see this. loughran or jones wouldnt go 0-2.

Thats what I thought at first, but when you look a who they fought, its believable.

i guess with great fighters like these anything is possible but i definitely think that jones beats dariusz and loughran beats maxie.

powerpuncher wrote:

boxinglawyer wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

the weird thing is i was just thinking today about who the greatest LHWs were and then i see this. loughran or jones wouldnt go 0-2.

Thats what I thought at first, but when you look a who they fought, its believable.

i guess with great fighters like these anything is possible but i definitely think that jones beats dariusz and loughran beats maxie.

How in hell did Loughran and Rosenbloom never fight? Loughran fought from 1919 to 1937 mostly as a light heavy and Maxie fought from 1923-WWII mostly as a light heavy. Together they fought what? 400 fights? How the hell did that happen?

marble i agree..you would think based on there history they would of fought 3 or 4 times..boy that would be a great trivia question...

who knows...maybe they were scared of each other.

powerpuncher wrote:

who knows...maybe they were scared of each other.

THAT was funny!

marbleheadmaui wrote:

powerpuncher wrote:

who knows...maybe they were scared of each other.

THAT was funny!

thanks. i try