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PostSubject: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyWed May 12, 2010 9:17 pm

If you look at his resume there is a lot of names that he did beat. So what do you guys think. I really never was a fan of Byrd.
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyWed May 12, 2010 9:24 pm

sooner he will be remembered as a decent fighter who was a cleaver southpaw .respectable talent but thats it..no differnt then we will remember jerry quarry or a jimmy young or a jimmy ellis in the heavyweight division..nor guys like gil turner del flanagan kenny lane in the 50s in the welter and lightweight division...true lifelong boxing fans will remember him as such..casual fans will forget him..
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyWed May 12, 2010 9:55 pm

he was at one time the number 1 or 2 Heavyweight in the division

alot of people like to build David Tua up like he was some good

he couldnt even touch Byrd, and Byrd started to rock TUA

a very solid fighter and tough night for anybody n the division. Maybe mst underrated heavyweight of last 10 years
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyWed May 12, 2010 9:57 pm

Birdofthad wrote:
he was at one time the number 1 or 2 Heavyweight in the division

alot of people like to build David Tua up like he was some good

he couldnt even touch Byrd, and Byrd started to rock TUA

a very solid fighter and tough night for anybody n the division. Maybe mst underrated heavyweight of last 10 years
How about this. If you go off just resumes did he beat better comp than Tyson?
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyWed May 12, 2010 10:11 pm

sooner no .chris beat some decent guys.tua the older K brother was well ahead before he claimed injury..hollifield a so so mcclaine and a few others.he was cleaver a southpaw intelligent and what we used to call in the old days a cutie...tyson resume if we look at it i feel was a little more impressive..examples..mike spinks frank bruno twice berbick pinklon tommas biggs razor ruddick twice bonecrusher smith carl williams and a few others..both beat what was considered some of the better heavys in there era..overall i give mike the edge in resume..
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyWed May 12, 2010 10:11 pm

well theres a Klitschko, Holyfield, David Tua, Golota, and Otke

not exactly murderers row, but yes those names are atleast up there with an old Holmes, Michael Spins, Bone Crusher, and Pinklon

thats a tough question
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyThu May 13, 2010 8:14 pm

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sooner no .chris beat some decent guys.tua the older K brother was well ahead before he claimed injury..hollifield a so so mcclaine and a few others.he was cleaver a southpaw intelligent and what we used to call in the old days a cutie...tyson resume if we look at it i feel was a little more impressive..examples..mike spinks frank bruno twice berbick pinklon tommas biggs razor ruddick twice bonecrusher smith carl williams and a few others..both beat what was considered some of the better heavys in there era..overall i give mike the edge in resume..
I don't think that Byrd is better than Tyson or anything I just wondered if you put their resumes side by side does Byrds stack up?
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Birdofthad wrote:
well theres a Klitschko, Holyfield, David Tua, Golota, and Otke

not exactly murderers row, but yes those names are atleast up there with an old Holmes, Michael Spins, Bone Crusher, and Pinklon

thats a tough question
I was thinking about it the other day and came close to putting it up on espn but thought why bother.
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyFri May 14, 2010 3:01 am

ya i am honestly a Chris Byrd kinda guy, when Vitali left the sport and Lennox was gone i honestly had Byrd as the number 1 heavyweight until Wladimir beat him
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyFri May 14, 2010 10:29 am

byrd was a good fighter. his lack of power is what made prevented him from being at the top. he was always a top 3 or so HW. his main problem were the big men like the klits because of his lack of size and power to keep them off of him. he will go down in history as a solid HW that was pretty good but never got to that next level.
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptyFri May 14, 2010 1:21 pm

I think his resume compares to Tyson's. I never thought about it but Tyson's list of opponents kinda suck. Who's better? An over the hill Holyfield or an aged Larry Holmes? Who knows? I'll always remember Byrd as a class act and an underrated boxer.
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exactly Frank, and that Holyfield had alot more fight elft in him tha n Larry did IMO
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptySun May 16, 2010 12:31 pm

Byrd was an "overachiever" who kept a Heavyweight title for a few years, I never disliked the guy, but most of his fights were snoozefests. He deserves credit for being a small HW champ who was able to hang with the big dogs.

My 2 favorite Chris Byrd fights were the ones against Ike Ibeabuchi, and Wlad Klitschko.
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptySun May 16, 2010 4:43 pm

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Byrd was an "overachiever" who kept a Heavyweight title for a few years, I never disliked the guy, but most of his fights were snoozefests. He deserves credit for being a small HW champ who was able to hang with the big dogs.

My 2 favorite Chris Byrd fights were the ones against Ike Ibeabuchi, and Wlad Klitschko.
LOL poor Byrd. IKE messed him up bad. So did Wlad. Ike was a beast. I think he could have been the best of that era.
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptySun May 16, 2010 5:52 pm

Im not a big Ike guy

Byrd's big mistake was trying to become an entertaining fighter, he should have just kept doing what got him the title IMO
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PostSubject: Re: How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory?   How will Chris Byrd go down in boxing hisory? EmptySun May 16, 2010 6:00 pm

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Im not a big Ike guy

Byrd's big mistake was trying to become an entertaining fighter, he should have just kept doing what got him the title IMO
Either way I really liked IKE. It sucks we never got to find out if he could have been great. Same with Valero.
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agree, just a guy going life and death with David Tua didnt exactly have me thinking he would rule the era

Lennox wouldve spanked his ass Very Happy
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agree, just a guy going life and death with David Tua didnt exactly have me thinking he would rule the era

Lennox wouldve spanked his ass Very Happy
Maybe but LL was very beatable. You would think a big tough guy like Ike would have a chance at KOing LL.
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If you look at his resume there is a lot of names that he did beat. So what do you guys think. I really never was a fan of Byrd.

A darn good pro who had a fine career. A couple of steps short of the HOF. Kind of a Buddy McGirt, Michael Moorer, Simon Brown level guy?
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that sounds right Marble, i still believe he was the top guy in the division for a short minute
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Im not a big Ike guy

Byrd's big mistake was trying to become an entertaining fighter, he should have just kept doing what got him the title IMO
Either way I really liked IKE. It sucks we never got to find out if he could have been great. Same with Valero.

See I think we DID find out about both of those guys. They couldn't have been great. They lacked the mental makeup to even remain eligible to compete. Same with Tony Ayala and Ricky Womack.
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Im not a big Ike guy

Byrd's big mistake was trying to become an entertaining fighter, he should have just kept doing what got him the title IMO
Either way I really liked IKE. It sucks we never got to find out if he could have been great. Same with Valero.

See I think we DID find out about both of those guys. They couldn't have been great. They lacked the mental makeup to even remain eligible to compete. Same with Tony Ayala and Ricky Womack.
I get you. But man Ike looked like he was going to roll through everyone.
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Im not a big Ike guy

Byrd's big mistake was trying to become an entertaining fighter, he should have just kept doing what got him the title IMO
Either way I really liked IKE. It sucks we never got to find out if he could have been great. Same with Valero.

See I think we DID find out about both of those guys. They couldn't have been great. They lacked the mental makeup to even remain eligible to compete. Same with Tony Ayala and Ricky Womack.
I get you. But man Ike looked like he was going to roll through everyone.

he wasnt mentally strong enough to be a decent human being yet alone keep his head when the fire was on
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
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If you look at his resume there is a lot of names that he did beat. So what do you guys think. I really never was a fan of Byrd.

A darn good pro who had a fine career. A couple of steps short of the HOF. Kind of a Buddy McGirt, Michael Moorer, Simon Brown level guy?
Yeah its weird how Tyson is going into the HOF easy but Byrd will not get in.
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soonermark890 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
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If you look at his resume there is a lot of names that he did beat. So what do you guys think. I really never was a fan of Byrd.

A darn good pro who had a fine career. A couple of steps short of the HOF. Kind of a Buddy McGirt, Michael Moorer, Simon Brown level guy?
Yeah its weird how Tyson is going into the HOF easy but Byrd will not get in.

maybe down the road a long way down Byrd will get in

cause one thing, he was a good guy, that can helpalong with being the 2nd Southpaw Heavyweight Champ
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