Philly Fan Taser

oggy420 wrote:

No. I stand by my opinion that using a taser was completely unnecessary in this situation. I feel that a taser should only be used when someone is acting violently towards others. This kid wasn't violent. He was just being an idiot and trying to get on tv. You don't be deserve to be tasered for that. Look, if they identify that he A) is acting violent B) has a weapon (which in this case he didn't, and you asked "well how are they supposed to know if he has a weapon?" Well how about looking at his hands and seeing if there is a weapon in his hands?)

He couldn't have one hidden?

Dude this is a baseball stadium. Not sure about you guys but at yankee stdium they pat you down and check all bags for weapons. It's called preventative measures.

Remember this one?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/pregnant_woman_tasered/

Farmer1906 wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

No. I stand by my opinion that using a taser was completely unnecessary in this situation. I feel that a taser should only be used when someone is acting violently towards others. This kid wasn't violent. He was just being an idiot and trying to get on tv. You don't be deserve to be tasered for that. Look, if they identify that he A) is acting violent B) has a weapon (which in this case he didn't, and you asked "well how are they supposed to know if he has a weapon?" Well how about looking at his hands and seeing if there is a weapon in his hands?)

He couldn't have one hidden?

If the security team was competent then the un-brandished phantom weapon that kid might of maybe possibly had or not had would be of no concern.

What about when the cops Tasered a 10 year old boy at daycare? He def deserved it too.

oggy420 wrote:

Dude this is a baseball stadium. Not sure about you guys but at yankee stdium they pat you down and check all bags for weapons. It's called preventative measures.

I've never been patted down going into Minate Maid, the Astrosdome, Wrigley, The Jake, Old Yankee, Shea, Fenway, or Camden Yard.

They check purses, not pockets.

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Should the kid of been shot dead? If so then the taser would of been acceptable to use. They are handy for fat cops and imbeciles though.

Not signing a traffic ticket, at most a non-arrestable misdemeanor.

So i guess everyone should just be tasered on the chance that they might have a pocket knife?

Again, you guys are using poor examples here... Let's keep our eyes on the ball and discuss the incident at hand.

As far as screening for weapons... Does this cop personally screen everyone for weapons? No. Is it possible to sneak things into a baseball park? Yes. I have seen people (Maybe even LA) smoking pot with a pot pipe in Seattle. I've seen people using knives to carve some food in San Francisco... Should those have gotten through security? You guys can play cop hater all you want, but this cop had no way of knowing what the kids intentions were and since the kid broke the law and wasn't cooperating I think his actions should be found justifiable...

oggy420 wrote:

So i guess everyone should just be tasered on the chance that they might have a pocket knife?

If they have leaped the fence, evaded security and aren't complying when a cop tells them to stop and get down... YES.

Dude thats what im talking about. ^^^

Thats fucked up.

Why is ignorance an excuse for violence? Is that the level of competency to expect?

oggy420 wrote:

Dude thats what im talking about. ^^^

Thats fucked up.

Why?... He lost most of his rights the second he jumped on the field and broke the law. He lost more when he didn't comply with a cop. It was a little pocket knife that for all intent and purposes ended the career of Monica Seles. I'm sure she wishes there was a cop with a taser between her and "a fan".

You cant Tase someone because you dont know wether they have a weapon or not. If you see a weapon fine. But he didn't and still shot him anyway. This kid was probably gonna run around for a few more seconds and give up. There was no need to taser him. He wasn't a threat.

i was talking about the video LTFG

Running away from security laughing with a towel in your hand is threatening though.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Why is ignorance an excuse for violence? Is that the level of competency to expect?

What's the ignorance? You guys not seeing the obvious? It's not ignorant for a cop to exercise his right to use force if someone who is breaking the law doesn't comply with direct orders. If you can tell me or any officer how they are to KNOW FOR A FACT that this kid had no intent to endanger or harm anyone, I'll back off the point.

oggy420 wrote:

i was talking about the video LTFG

Your ^^^^^ were pointing at my post Oggy... I was unsure of your intent but assumed you were referring to my post...

He's got a gun!!!

Because he had no weapon, wasn't running towards athletes, was being chased and was shot in the back. He was running away, not confronting anyone.

LikesToFightGuy wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Why is ignorance an excuse for violence? Is that the level of competency to expect?

What's the ignorance? You guys not seeing the obvious? It's not ignorant for a cop to exercise his right to use force if someone who is breaking the law doesn't comply with direct orders. If you can tell me or any officer how they are to KNOW FOR A FACT that this kid had no intent to endanger or harm anyone, I'll back off the point.

Hey maybe this kid with the towel is dangerous, gee I don't know, what should I do if I can't tell if the towel kid is dangerous, better use my weapon I have that is supposed to take the place of my gun to take him out.

oggy420 wrote:

You cant Tase someone because you dont know wether they have a weapon or not. If you see a weapon fine. But he didn't and still shot him anyway. This kid was probably gonna run around for a few more seconds and give up. There was no need to taser him. He wasn't a threat.

Again, no way to know that for sure... If they wait until they see a weapon, the kid could be unloading a clip taking out half the starting line-up beofre you can react. That's the reality, unfortunately. It's psycho's like the father and son that attacked Gamboa or the guy that attacked Seles that have put us in this spot. And fans have to realize they can't just do whatever they feel like doing such as break the law and jump a fence to go running on the field.

oggy420 wrote:

Because he had no weapon, wasn't running towards athletes, was being chased and was shot in the back. He was running away, not confronting anyone.

yet he was still BREAKING THE LAW, avoiding commands from the officer to stop, and being a complete idiot!!!
im glad he got zapped, he'll learn a fucking lesson!

What? Know the Kid could have a gun? There is now way he can get a gun in the stadium. You're just reaching now. Anyway it's been fun, said my piece on it. Talk to you guys later.

tased not tasered guys.