No matter who loses between Machida and Shogun, are those two still gonna be 1-2 in ur rankings?

I personally think these two are a cut above the rest, maybe I think Lil Nog could hang with either one, but I think no matter if Machida wins or Shogun, I'll have these guys as my top 2 LHWs. What about u?

depends how the fight goes, bt more than likely

honestly, Rua losses I know he is still one of the best

if he blows Machida out I would probably drop Machida under Lil Nog

Nope. I still think Anderson can beat either of the 2. He makes very good fighters look like bitches. Hendo(#1 in the world a few years back, borderline top 10), Forrest(#1 in the world a year or so back, in the top 10), Franklin (borderline top 10 LHW) and that just factoring guys who've fought at 205.

Even if you don't factor in Anderson...

I think Rashad can leap frog Shogun if Machida wins and Rashad beats Rampage.

I think Rampage can leap frog Machida if Shogun wins and Rampage beats Rashad.

Maybe even Lil Nog jumping up if he destroys Forrest, but probably not.

ugh i get a bad taste in my mouth when i talk about Suga at the top

I think Page is the lone guy who can threaten the top 2.

Though I agree with farmer I have a hard time ranking silva with the 205's when he has only fought there twice, and looks to be fighting his next 2 at 185.

Shad got his ass beat by Machida and Shogun would be a horrible matchup for him too

I love Page as much as anyone, but Machida is a horrible matchup for him aswell and Shogun's been there done that.

I think it's clear these two are tops.

I have a feeling Machida falls off. I think the more people see of him the more he gets 'figured' out. I know he's elite and has done nothing but beat very very good talent, but it just have a feeling. If not Shogun then someone soon. Maybe even Rashad the 2nd time around. I really wish Silva would ditch 185 and move to 205 for good.

Rashad has no chance against Machida, he should have been knocked out by Thiago

If Shogun doesn't beat Machida (which I don't think he will) enjoy him as Champ for a long time.

Page's game is all wrong for Lyoto, think he KO's Shad though

Farmer1906 wrote:

I have a feeling Machida falls off. I think the more people see of him the more he gets 'figured' out. I know he's elite and has done nothing but beat very very good talent, but it just have a feeling. If not Shogun then someone soon. Maybe even Rashad the 2nd time around. I really wish Silva would ditch 185 and move to 205 for good.

I guess I could see Lyoto's lack of pop causing him prob's, but even a Rua at his best had trouble with him. and bad decision or not Lyoto showed toughness and earned his 5 round stripes in that fight. I actually foresee the gap between he and the division widening. At least until Bones is ready to make his run.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Shad got his ass beat by Machida and Shogun would be a horrible matchup for him too

I love Page as much as anyone, but Machida is a horrible matchup for him aswell and Shogun's been there done that.

I think it's clear these two are tops.

If either rua or Lyoto get lumped, and Page in turm lumps shad, you don't think there would be a strong argument for page at 2?

I would probably have to go that way. I mean there are very few ppl in that division that could challenge either of them, maybe Silva, Lil Nog, Shad, Page of Bones, but not many could handle that and those that I listed are heavy question marks.

The only 2 people that can take the title off Machida are Rua and Jones in about 2 years time.

captain organic wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Shad got his ass beat by Machida and Shogun would be a horrible matchup for him too

I love Page as much as anyone, but Machida is a horrible matchup for him aswell and Shogun's been there done that.

I think it's clear these two are tops.

If either rua or Lyoto get lumped, and Page in turm lumps shad, you don't think there would be a strong argument for page at 2?

I think Page is going to KO Shad, but Machida would have 1 lose in his career at that point, and having a win over the guy who might beat him (I think Machida wins), really can't put Page ahead of him considering he'd prob pick Page apart. Shogun already beat Page and it's clear he's back and is a top guy, don't see anyone really beating him besides Machida or Lil Nog maybe.

Yes.

If Page wins than he is #2, if Evans wins he's #3. Nogueira is in a good fight but nothing to move him up anywhere past the loser of Evans-Jackson.

It really depends on how it goes though. If one of them gets absolutely smashed than that might influence it but i don't really see that happening. I do see a fairly convincing win for the Dragon though.

If Rua somehow blows out Machida ( which is highly unlikely,) I could maybe see Lil Nog moving to #2. Of course he's got to dominate Forrest in the process.

No way Lil Nog would be number 2 when his best victory is over Forrest (I'm assuming he wins). He'd have to beat either Machida, Rua, Rampage or Rashad to be in the top 4.

If its close like the last fight then yeah, I'll have them one and two. If one or the other has a dominant performance I'll have to think about it. If Rampage looks good against Shad, I'll think about moving him to two. Nog too I guess.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

I personally think these two are a cut above the rest, maybe I think Lil Nog could hang with either one, but I think no matter if Machida wins or Shogun, I'll have these guys as my top 2 LHWs. What about u?

agree

Yep they'll still be my 1-2.

If Rampage KO's Evans then I might put him at #2 on my list. More then likely if Machida and Rampage both have clear cut wins then my list would be 1. Machida, 2. Page, 3. Shogun, 4. Evans.
But if Shogun and Rashad win I might put 1.Shogun, 2. Machida, 3. Rashad.

Now if Shogun and Rampage win I would have to think about who gets then #2 spot. Depending on the fights I could go 1.Shogun, 2. Page, 3. Machida or Machida could get the 2 spot depending on how the fights go.

I'm with others here who think if Page wins he goes to number 2 and the loser of Machida vs. Shogun will drop to 3 or 4.