God exists?

God created all.

Jesus died for our sins and rose from the grave.

Im a practicing Catholic so choice #1

Wolf, ever read the bible?

Dude I'm so pissed I had a mad good "Should weed be legal" thread lined up and a "More realistic God or Aliens" thread lined up u fucker.

And I stopped believing in God after I took Evolutionary Biology

Good poll question, already interesting answers...

I personally have not, but I believe in what I believe. That's about the best I can do!

Voted the third option. Probaly a higher power but don't wtf it is.

I am a practicing Catholic but I voted the third option because I think most other religions are just as valid as my religion.

Damn Wolf...you certainly don't fuck around when you have an opinion huh??

Honestly, I'm not very knowledgable on the subject. I went to a baptist church back when I was a little kid until my great grandmother died. Ultimately, I stopped going to church. I was too young back then to really understand any of it, but from the main points that I hear people talk about it just sounds like a big hoax to me.

I just cant picture myself spending so much of my life worshipping and praying to something that we have ZERO proof exists.

Can someone explain to me how a man...thousands of years ago decided he was just gonna up and die for EVERYONE's sins in the future? Can somebody please explain that to me?

I'm neither religious, nor an athiest. I believe he may have existed at some point and time, but until I have hard evidence of what this guy did, I'm not gonna spend my whole life worshipping nothing.

I believe in a higher power of some sort and that we are all connected.
I'm Jewish like my boy Jesus, but I'm not sure I can get down with Zombie Jesus, that sounds like necromancy to me. Also celibit Jesus was probably fabricated and the "virgin" mary was supposed to mean "young girl" mary, but young girl and virgin are so close that it gets lost in translation.

People would think you were gay or strange back then if you didn't have a wife. Jesus wouldn't have been taken seriously as a Jew if he didn't have a wife.

The bible is a nice story book and even has some good messages in there. I take everything I read with a grain of salt though - especcially something thatt was written by men almost 2000 years ago and 200 years after Jesus died.

I also don't really believe the old testament either - women came from men's ribs - I mean really? and then Adam and Eve's kids having sex with each other? I don't think that's right and they would have had retarded babies, not kids that lived to be 900 years old.

It's all good if you do believe these things and if you do, I hope that your religion steers you in the right direction and that you use it for something positive. Some things in religon make sense (don't kill your neighbor and sleep with his wife.) While other rules are no longer relevent. For example, now that I have a fridge, I don't have to be afraid of pork anymore.
Religions are all different paths to the same goal, but somehow logic and reason are often lost on people who take their given path too seriously.

Muslims and Christians both believe in 1 true god. Allah is just another word for god. I don't think that billions of people are wrong about the presence of some god. I'm not a follower of any organized religion, I did go to a Pentecostal church when I was younger and have also been to Baptist, Catholic and nondenominational churches. I believe that much of the bible was either mistranslated or exaggerated but I do believe both Jesus and god are real.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Muslims and Christians both believe in 1 true god. Allah is just another word for god. I don't think that billions of people are wrong about the presence of some god. I'm not a follower of any organized religion, I did go to a Pentecostal church when I was younger and have also been to Baptist, Catholic and nondenominational churches. I believe that much of the bible was either mistranslated or exaggerated but I do believe both Jesus and god are real.

Billions of people believing something does not mean it is true.

Billions believed that the world was flat before. I believe in something, but don't think that there is 1 older male ghostly figure with a long beard (I think most people think god looks like Merlin, Dumbldore or Gandalf) watching over us. That is a nice way to think about it, but I just don't think it works that way and I can't just take it that way on "faith"

I need some evidence. I do believe in unseen forces and such, and I suppose "god," but I think god is everything - you and me and the forces that bind us together, not some "goodly godly overseer"

Jruq wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Muslims and Christians both believe in 1 true god. Allah is just another word for god. I don't think that billions of people are wrong about the presence of some god. I'm not a follower of any organized religion, I did go to a Pentecostal church when I was younger and have also been to Baptist, Catholic and nondenominational churches. I believe that much of the bible was either mistranslated or exaggerated but I do believe both Jesus and god are real.

Billions of people believing something does not mean it is true.

Billions believed that the world was flat before. I believe in something, but don't think that there is 1 older male ghostly figure with a long beard (I think most people think god looks like Merlin, Dumbldore or Gandalf) watching over us. That is a nice way to think about it, but I just don't think it works that way and I can't just take it that way on "faith"

I need some evidence. I do believe in unseen forces and such, and I suppose "god," but I think god is everything - you and me and the forces that bind us together, not some "goodly godly overseer"

I didn't say it was true, I said I don't believe they are wrong about feeling the presence of God. I don't agree with how many people interpret what they believe is God and what he wants from them. I just think billions have felt that presence and I believe that presence to be real. I think people choose to interpret it in different ways and that is where religions differ, the way they interpret god's messages.

Ahh, I misinterpretted what you said and I think we agree here.

I actually think that answers 3 and 4 go together - evolution and god do not have to be mutually exclusive.

Jruq wrote:

Ahh, I misinterpretted what you said and I think we agree here.

yeah I think we are pretty close to the same page.

I'm with Wolfy on this one.

I also want to point out that there was never a time when billions of people believed the Earth was flat.

chorky777 wrote:

I also want to point out that there was never a time when billions of people believed the Earth was flat.

You got me there - hundreds of Millions.

I know it is a cheeseball line but I have always agreed with Anne Frank. I believe people are really good at heart. Even if god doesn't exist, I'm glad we have the bible because it preaches good over evil and gives the message that good things will come to those who do good. It preaches a positive way of life.

Jruq wrote:

chorky777 wrote:

I also want to point out that there was never a time when billions of people believed the Earth was flat.

You got me there - hundreds of Millions.

Not even that. It's a myth that people in the middle ages thought Earth was flat. Pretty much everyone from the 3rd century on knew the Earth was round. Except it took China until the 1600s, but there weren't even hundreds of millions of people in China yet at that point. There were only half a billion people in the world at that time.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I know it is a cheeseball line but I have always agreed with Anne Frank. I believe people are really good at heart. Even if god doesn't exist, I'm glad we have the bible because it preaches good over evil and gives the message that good things will come to those who do good. It preaches a positive way of life.

Read the story of Job.

The Bible preaches that if you believe that Jesus is God's son that you will be saved from eternal seperation (hell) from God. It does not preach that good things will happen you if you're a good person.

Bigs03 wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I know it is a cheeseball line but I have always agreed with Anne Frank. I believe people are really good at heart. Even if god doesn't exist, I'm glad we have the bible because it preaches good over evil and gives the message that good things will come to those who do good. It preaches a positive way of life.

Read the story of Job.

The Bible preaches that if you believe that Jesus is God's son that you will be saved from eternal seperation (hell) from God. It does not preach that good things will happen you if you're a good person.

Just about every religion in the world preaches good and doing good to others. What about the 10 commandments? Everything preaches good. Does it not say you will get back 10 fold what you give? Why do almost all religions preach giving? Maybe I shouldn't have said the bible but religion in general preaches to you do good others and you shall be rewarded.

chorky777 wrote:

Jruq wrote:

chorky777 wrote:

I also want to point out that there was never a time when billions of people believed the Earth was flat.

You got me there - hundreds of Millions.

Not even that. It's a myth that people in the middle ages thought Earth was flat. Pretty much everyone from the 3rd century on knew the Earth was round. Except it took China until the 1600s, but there weren't even hundreds of millions of people in China yet at that point. There were only half a billion people in the world at that time.

The world is flat went in and out of fashion and then in 1800s it was finaly widely held the Earth was round. In the 1700s we had close to a billion and in the 1800s we had a billion people. If it wasn't widely believed the earth was flat before the 1800s, and we had close to a billion, I would imagine hundreds of millions of people thought that to be true.

Whatever - this argument is silly. Maybe we should get a time machine and start polling?

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I know it is a cheeseball line but I have always agreed with Anne Frank. I believe people are really good at heart. Even if god doesn't exist, I'm glad we have the bible because it preaches good over evil and gives the message that good things will come to those who do good. It preaches a positive way of life.

Read the story of Job.

The Bible preaches that if you believe that Jesus is God's son that you will be saved from eternal seperation (hell) from God. It does not preach that good things will happen you if you're a good person.

Just about every religion in the world preaches good and doing good to others. What about the 10 commandments? Everything preaches good. Does it not say you will get back 10 fold what you give? Why do almost all religions preach giving? Maybe I shouldn't have said the bible but religion in general preaches to you do good others and you shall be rewarded.

Part of what the Bible does is give a guideline of how a follower of Christ should look. The Old Testament especially preaches a lot of rules that if and when they are broken there must be sacrifice or bloodshed in order for those sins to be paid for. The Bible also teaches, in the New Testament, that Jesus took on the form of a human in order to shed his own blood and pay for the sins of all the people so that they could be saved from hell or eternal death (life without God).

Of course, if a person lives in such a manner as the Bible teaches they will reap rewards on earth and will almost certainly have a "good" life. However, the Bible also teaches that even a super duper "good" person could be left out of Heaven if they did not believe in Jesus dying on the cross for their sins...also...the only unforgiveable sin according to the Bible is not believing...therefore a super duper bad person who maybe decides to believe on his deathbed could be included in Heaven. Such is the criminal who hung on the cross beside Jesus and cried out for Jesus to remember him in Heaven and Jesus said, "Today you will be with me in paradise."

The principles of the Bible could be applied to ANYONE'S life and they would benefit from those principles. This is why the book "The Secret" is so extremely popular. Many of the life lessons found in that book are taken directly from the Bible.