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PostSubject: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptySat Apr 10, 2010 1:51 am

How do you rank the Gracie's amongst themselves, in their primes, P4P style. Who was the best. That fought a MMA or early NHB style pro fight. Rorion and the old timers dont count.

1. Renzo Gracie - Best blend of stand up and ground game. Most well rounded Gracie. 13-6-1 1NC. Wins over Oleg Taktarov, Frank Shamrock, Pat Miletich, Maurice Smith, Carlos Newton to name a few.

2. Rickson Gracie - Best submissions of any Gracie. Thats saying something. Won all 11 pro fights by submission, over Funaki, Takada (twice), Yamamoto, and Kimura. Would have been fun to see him vs modern 185'ers.

3. Royce Gracie - some may argue to high. Some may argue to low. I think 3 is right for Royce. How good was Royce? He is the reason we all heard of this thing called Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Also the reason original UFC fighters copied the Gracie guard. Beat Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn, Kimo, Takada, and Pat Smith. 14-3-3. Tough as it gets.

4. Ralph Gracie - most will say this is way too high. But this guy was a huge 155 pound fighter.went 6-0 before facing Takanori Gomi. Ralph ate a sick knee 6 seconds into the fight and it was over. He hasnt fought since 2004, 6-1. I think if he had kept fighting he would have gotten past it.

5. Ryan Gracie - 5-2 hasnt fought since 2004 but he was another tough guy.

lets just do top 5, do more if you want. Honorable mention to Royler Gracie, and Rodrigo Gracie. Sure Im leaving someone else out, theres damn near 20 of them that have fought.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptySat Apr 10, 2010 4:33 am

damn bird you've got a lot of mma knowledge, respect!
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptySat Apr 10, 2010 10:55 am

It's going to be hard for Ryan Gracie to fight again considering he's dead. Maybe you already knew that, the way you worded it just sounded like he was on a layoff or something
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptySat Apr 10, 2010 11:35 am

Roger Gracie could be the greatest. I wish he would compete more.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptySat Apr 10, 2010 2:48 pm

I still believe Royce was the number 1.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptySat Apr 10, 2010 3:38 pm

thanks killer, thanks bobbit when I made this last night I couldnt remember if Ryan or Ralph died so I didnt mention, thanks for clearing that though, how good did you think Ryan was????

agree boomer, I am high on Roger Gracie as well.

and Tim, not going to argue with Royce not being number 1, I dont have him as the best but if someone says Royce is, you certainly wont hear me argue with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptySat Apr 10, 2010 4:30 pm

His own brothers and relatives said Rickson was better then Royce.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptySat Apr 10, 2010 4:35 pm

Birdofthad wrote:
thanks killer, thanks bobbit when I made this last night I couldnt remember if Ryan or Ralph died so I didnt mention, thanks for clearing that though, how good did you think Ryan was????

agree boomer, I am high on Roger Gracie as well.

and Tim, not going to argue with Royce not being number 1, I dont have him as the best but if someone says Royce is, you certainly wont hear me argue with them.

I thought Ryan was a pretty damn good fighter. Was kind of a headcase out there but he had solid striking to go with the Gracie JJ
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyMon Apr 12, 2010 7:46 pm

interested how you rank them?????
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyMon Apr 12, 2010 7:50 pm

Kyra is high on my list
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyMon Apr 12, 2010 7:55 pm

hahaha nice GDP
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 9:20 am

1. Rickson
2.Royce
3.Renzo

I would rank more but these Gracie's are the only one's I have any real knowledge on.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyTue Apr 13, 2010 6:52 pm

thanks MMA
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyWed Apr 14, 2010 12:19 pm

Holy shit I forgot about Cesar. Updated mmaeyes gracie ranking

1. Rickson
2. Royce
3. Renzo
4. Cesar
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyWed Apr 14, 2010 12:30 pm

1. Hughes
2. Sakuraba
3. Shamrock
4. The Gracies
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyWed Apr 14, 2010 5:39 pm

Cesar didnt fair to well in his MMA career

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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyTue May 11, 2010 3:04 pm

#1 Kyra Gracie
Rank the Gracie's Kyra-gracie
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyTue May 11, 2010 4:31 pm

A lot of the Gracie's recognized Rickson as the best.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank the Gracie's   Rank the Gracie's EmptyTue May 11, 2010 4:37 pm

thats a hilarious Paul Daley prophecy fulfilling qupte
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