A new MMA?

Submitted for your approval...

One league, one commissioner, one belt for each class which would now include bantam, feather, cruiser and super heavy, three women's classes, a pay scale based on a universal ranking system (Some exhaustive thought would need to be given here), a TV network deal that shows weekly cards with five televised fights per card and still monthly PPV cards for title fights and top contender fights... You see as it is now, it's still too much like boxing in that there are too many hands in the pot.

You know, we now understand and accept that literally every org that pops up systematically implodes themselves, but should we have to feel this way?... Are we ready for the concept of a single entity... An NFL, MLB, NBA or NHL if you will? Sure the little shows that dot that country such as my local shows (Desert Brawl) can still put on their shows as kind of a minor league system, along with the arts that have been around forever that aren't true MMA. But I'm talking about one king pin that's so financially secure that we don't have to worry about one guy testing positive for something crushing the foundation.

There's a lot of things about this that concept would work and "grow the sport" exponentially. Avoid the mistakes of the big three by resisting unions. If you have a set pay scale based on performance and ranking, there's no need for anyone to be underpaid or overpaid (Key here is that the entity would have to have an open book policy, declaring adjustments in pay scale yearly based on revenue of company share... And it would have to be written in contract of every fighter that joins). You get paid by performing, period... If you have the right resume, you get the jack. An obvious one is that everyone would have to have insurance while you're employed witht he company. Every Saturday night, you have a two hour Saturday night fights show airing 5 fights with anyone from a 15-50 ranking looking to work up the ladder. These can be done at midsize arena's around the country, giving a much wider audience a chance to catch it that normally aren't able to go to the big events in the few selected cities that PPV's are in. Monthly PPV cards are the same, but air the undercard on whatever network the entity is teamed with. Added weight classes and women make for a much more rounded company (I have a feeling that seeing women fight might not hit with many people, so those might need to be aired as the #5 card on the PPV and undercards of the weekly shows until it becomes accepted by the masses).

For the fans, you know where to turn and who you'll see fight. And you KNOW you will get to see them fight. They aren't on some back ass channel that only one satellite company provides 12 hours after the fact. For the fighters, it is security. As long as you perform, you stay employed and get paid. Lose a string of fights and you might be back in Podunk for a few months trying to get your uppercut back. For the little companies that have been there forever, they are still bringing up the newbs and the guys that fell off for a bit. For the companies that keep popping up trying to do too much too fast, they will need to find another cash cow to latch on to. Try the world badminton league...

If done right... It's perfect!



I gotta go to a meeting... But you all think about the benefits and drawbacks... I may have missed a few thoughts (In a hurry to get this out) that I'm sure you will all point out, but I will address as best I can when I have time.

yeah, fuck unions

Yeah...I'm in with that. Won't happen, but it would be the best possible solution to the current issues.

I'm waiting for the cliff's notes to come out on this book

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I'm waiting for the cliff's notes to come out on this book

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I'm waiting for the cliff's notes to come out on this book

thats fuckin funny

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I'm waiting for the cliff's notes to come out on this book

That was a gem

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I'm waiting for the cliff's notes to come out on this book

While I know LTFG is a genius who has been running his own million dollar corporation for 40 years and is all knowing and everything, but without pictures I'm not interested in any book of his!

Wolfgangsta wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

I'm waiting for the cliff's notes to come out on this book

While I know LTFG is a genius who has been running his own million dollar corporation for 40 years and is all knowing and everything, but without pictures I'm not interested in any book of his!

It's all right kiddo, I expected no less from you. You can keep playing in your little glass tubes while being an anonymous part of the thinking mans machine. You see, there are two types... The talkers and the doers. I'm in the 1% that take control and employ the 90% like you that rely on us for security in every form in life. You can mock all you want (As many insecure people often do), but without people like me who take the risks and continue to try and grow our enterprise even in these times, you are sorting through crap for enjoyment! Oh, and 22 years... But still almost as long as you've been littering this planet.

Now you could take a mature route and attempt to actually give some thoughtful insight into the topic (No one else has), or you can go classic Wolfy and add your own immature thoughts directly to my post? I think you'll take that road since having the power of mod status is the only power you'll likely ever have in this world... Pathetic.

I'm kinda confused here LTFG, what exactly are you looking for/trying to accomplish here?

lol touched a raw nerve did I? Lighten up man.

Anyway, what you said makes sense sort of in a world where all of those impossibilities actually happened. But what you said was so unrealistic in today's climate that spending much time on it would be a total waste.

I could post a long diatribe about heathcare reform based on a system of accountability where we're not stuck footing the bill of the giant hordes of American fatasses that pollute the heathcare system with diabetus and colesterol, but in reality fat women will not stop chugging 40 ounce fountain drinks and Arkansas families will still spoon feed chicken grease to their dirtyfaced children. These things will never change.

Why waste time babbling about nonsense?

Ziggy116 wrote:

I'm kinda confused here LTFG, what exactly are you looking for/trying to accomplish here?

He wants affirmation. Just reaffirm his intelligence, say he had a great idea, give him a gold star and let him be on his way.

I think Wolfy vs. LTFG is my favorite battle on the board. It's actually intelligent and not just a "Fuck you Brock rules...fuck you he sucks" kinda conversation

Ziggy116 wrote:

I'm kinda confused here LTFG, what exactly are you looking for/trying to accomplish here?

Accomplish? Maybe a little thought provoking dialogue. When I typed this earlier there was no story about Affliction/Strikeforce possibly merging... The morning was off to a slow start other than Affliction cancelling a show. I was simply asking for input from people capable of thought outside of immature one liners as to whether or not they think the possibility is there and if they would like to see a single entity for MMA. To be honest, it's the only way the sport will ever truly be mainstream...

Sorry for asking man, just wasn't exactly sure what you were looking for cause I think we can all agree that either complete cross-promotion or one single org is the best option by far.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

lol touched a raw nerve did I? Lighten up man.

Anyway, what you said makes sense sort of in a world where all of those impossibilities actually happened. But what you said was so unrealistic in today's climate that spending much time on it would be a total waste.

I could post a long diatribe about heathcare reform based on a system of accountability where we're not stuck footing the bill of the giant hordes of American fatasses that pollute the heathcare system with diabetus and colesterol, but in reality fat women will not stop chugging 40 ounce fountain drinks and Arkansas families will still spoon feed chicken grease to their dirtyfaced children. These things will never change.

Why waste time babbling about nonsense?

You are trying to compare healthcare reform with legitimizing a sport? This is where you go wrong and why you will be a lifetime cog. If we all thought the same way you do, we would still be living in mud huts, wearing loin cloth and etching marks into stone tablets for communication... The only nonsense and assbabble as you call it that I see here is coming from you.

All it takes is a few people with some cash and connections and the willingness to make it happen (Sadly it's a million times easier in today's world to accomplish things than it was in generations past)... Or for the rest to continue to spoon feed Dana White a gift since none of them seem to have a clue how to run a business. With the growth and populatiry of the sport itself, it's inevitable... I just hope that the group that makes it happen does it right and doesn't let unions destroy it from within.

Stay negative, cynical and uneducated my friend... If that's what serves you...

LikesToFightGuy wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

I'm kinda confused here LTFG, what exactly are you looking for/trying to accomplish here?

Accomplish? Maybe a little thought provoking dialogue. When I typed this earlier there was no story about Affliction/Strikeforce possibly merging... The morning was off to a slow start other than Affliction cancelling a show. I was simply asking for input from people capable of thought outside of immature one liners as to whether or not they think the possibility is there and if they would like to see a single entity for MMA. To be honest, it's the only way the sport will ever truly be mainstream...

MMA is a young man's sport my friend. If you can't handle a little ball busting then I'd look for something a little more your speed pops.

Ziggy116 wrote:

Sorry for asking man, just wasn't exactly sure what you were looking for cause I think we can all agree that either complete cross-promotion or one single org is the best option by far.

Don't be sorry Ziggy... The ony bad question is the one that goes unasked...

I was just hoping that there were a few on here that might be willing to entertain the thought of discussing something outside of tits, ass and which fighter is a bigger douche... I don't mind partaking in the latter since I use this as a menal break, but it still gets tiring at times...

Oh yeah... And Wolfy's still a thumb sucking infant...

I do hear ya there...I can only do so many pussy polls, but this topic has been discussed ad nauseum so I just asked.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

LikesToFightGuy wrote:

Ziggy116 wrote:

I'm kinda confused here LTFG, what exactly are you looking for/trying to accomplish here?

Accomplish? Maybe a little thought provoking dialogue. When I typed this earlier there was no story about Affliction/Strikeforce possibly merging... The morning was off to a slow start other than Affliction cancelling a show. I was simply asking for input from people capable of thought outside of immature one liners as to whether or not they think the possibility is there and if they would like to see a single entity for MMA. To be honest, it's the only way the sport will ever truly be mainstream...

MMA is a young man's sport my friend. If you can't handle a little ball busting then I'd look for something a little more your speed pops.

Huh? What the hell does that have to do with anything we have discussed? Are you saying that football, basketball, hockey and baseball (All right I'll give you that one) aren't geared towards all generations? Are you saying that even though I've spent a lifetime practicing the arts involved and followed the sport since its inception these thoughts aren't valid? Are you really this simple Wolf, because at times you show flashes of intelligence?...

I just brought up an equally unrealistic example. Try and follow.


Hopefully MMA will be as you say someday.


I however would like to see tournaments become the primary vehicle where MMA champions and challengers are crowned.

My ideal situation would actually be similar to kickboxing, tennis or golf where there are several "majors" each year, one in Vegas, one in NY, one in Japan etc. Different fighting surfaces in different tournaments. In tennis there is clay vs grass, football has domes and stadiums. Japan would be a ring, Vegas an octagon ect.

LikesToFightGuy wrote:

Huh? What the hell does that have to do with anything we have discussed? Are you saying that football, basketball, hockey and baseball (All right I'll give you that one) aren't geared towards all generations? Are you saying that even though I've spent a lifetime practicing the arts involved and followed the sport since its inception these thoughts aren't valid? Are you really this simple Wolf, because at times you show flashes of intelligence?...

No, I was making a joke calling you old and saying if you can't handle a little ball busting, as is common practice among young men, maybe you should find somewhere "safer" to post.

The only one arguing here is you. The only one offended here is you. Calm the fuck down.

I can get with that Wolfy...I do not however see multifight tourneys happening in one night. In regards to your comments on different surfaces are you referring to some fights in cages and some in rings?

lol wolfy...LTFG is not the only one on here that needs a good calm the fuck down lately!

Ziggy116 wrote:

I can get with that Wolfy...I do not however see multifight tourneys happening in one night. In regards to your comments on different surfaces are you referring to some fights in cages and some in rings?

Ya, I changed my post to reflect that.

I like how Dream/Pride/Sengoku does the tornaments. Three events with the final two rounds on one night.