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PostSubject: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 6:29 pm

These 5 I am picking, because they just don't have much, if anything, left in the tank:

Mirko - He is killing his own legend, just for a paycheck.
Big Nog - Has looked good in 1 fight in 2 years, time to pack it in.
Pulver - Tired of watching him get worked over by questionable opponents.
Trigg - Hasn't looked good in a while.
Hughes - Looks in great shape, but is not the fighter he once was.
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 6:37 pm

These 5 I am picking, because they just don't have much, if anything, left in the tank:

Mirko - He is killing his own legend, just for a paycheck. - sad but true.
Big Nog - Has looked good in 1 fight in 2 years, time to pack it in. - Just because he can finally be stopped like everyone else is no reason to retire.
Pulver - Tired of watching him get worked over by questionable opponents. - true
Trigg - Hasn't looked good in a while. - looked great at MW. Should have stayed there.
Hughes - Looks in great shape, but is not the fighter he once was. - please. He just beat Serra and could still trash half the top ten.
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 6:42 pm

Matt Hughes would get beat by everyone in the top 10 and a few in the top 15
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 6:46 pm

oggy420 wrote:
Matt Hughes would get beat by everyone in the top 10 and a few in the top 15

Naw, I'm with Wolf on this one. Hughes could still handle plenty of those guys.
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 6:53 pm

i disagree. I think Serra takes him in a rematch as well, i really hope we get to see the rematch cause Hughes has no business fighting guys like alves and GSP obviously. Fitch would maul him, even the overrated british strikers would probably hurt him before he got a chance to lay n pray. He cant strike with anyone in the top 10 and guys like Paulo Thiago would submit him if he tries to lay on them.
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 8:02 pm

Hughes has one of the best wrestling/BJJ hybrid games in MMA. Like an old Jake Sheilds. He would beat any of the jokers from AKA.
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Chuck Liddel.
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 8:32 pm

Who has Hughes lost to? The #1 WW in the world and then the #2/3. Hughes still has plently of gas in the tank. His style isn't going to dominate like it used to, but he's got enough to beat a lot of top guys. After he dismantles Henzo, he'll get a big name and prove it.
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 8:45 pm

I agree with Farmer, Sooner, and Wolf.

Hughes is still probably the #6 or 7 WW in the world and would beat alotta the top 10 and 15 guys.

my 5 that need to retire:

- Mark Coleman
- Randy Couture
- Chuck Liddell after his next fight
- Stephan Bonnar
- Jens Pulver


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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 8:48 pm

NoRegret wrote:
I agree with Farmer, Sooner, and Wolf.

Hughes is still probably the #6 or 7 WW in the world and would beat alotta the top 10 and 15 guys.

my 5 that need to retire:

- Mark Coleman
- Randy Couture
- Chuck Liddell after his next fight
- Guy Mezger
- Jens Pulver


Guy Mezger retired a long time ago
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 8:49 pm

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NoRegret wrote:
I agree with Farmer, Sooner, and Wolf.

Hughes is still probably the #6 or 7 WW in the world and would beat alotta the top 10 and 15 guys.

my 5 that need to retire:

- Mark Coleman
- Randy Couture
- Chuck Liddell after his next fight
- Guy Mezger
- Jens Pulver


Guy Mezger retired a long time ago

Really? I looked the other day and he was still on the UFC active roster. Weird.

Ok well take him off and add Stephan Bonnar
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 8:49 pm

Andrew the Raider King wrote:
These 5 I am picking, because they just don't have much, if anything, left in the tank:

Mirko - He is killing his own legend, just for a paycheck.
Big Nog - Has looked good in 1 fight in 2 years, time to pack it in.
Pulver - Tired of watching him get worked over by questionable opponents.
Trigg - Hasn't looked good in a while.
Hughes - Looks in great shape, but is not the fighter he once was.


agree on the bold
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 8:50 pm

Guy Mezger suffered a stroke and hasnt fought since 2003
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 8:51 pm

Well, I will take that name off and add Stephan Bonnar, my mistake.
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 8:54 pm

NoRegret wrote:
Well, I will take that name off and add Stephan Bonnar, my mistake.

its alright no biggie

Weird he is still on the active roster when he hasnt fought there since UFC 19
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 9:04 pm

1. Jeremy Horn
2.Randleman
3. Loser of tito vs chuck (matter of fact they should have that in their contract it would make it more entertaining)
4. Pulver
5. Mirko
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 9:48 pm

muayjitsu wrote:
1. Jeremy Horn
2.Randleman
3. Loser of tito vs chuck (matter of fact they should have that in their contract it would make it more entertaining)
4. Pulver
5. Mirko


saw him lose to someone this summer and it was sad how for he has fallen

I hadnt seen him fight in a while so i was surprised
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 10:59 pm

Yeah, Idk how you guys can say Hughes should retire. He may not be what he once was, but with that being said he's still a borderline top 5 WW IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyThu Feb 25, 2010 11:19 pm

Hughes' lack of standup and diminishing speed have rendered him unable to compete with top 10 talent these days. Who he's lost to doesn't say as much as who he struggled against does. He spent most of the Serra fight seeing double due to a head butt that occurred in the first round. What do you think happens when someone who throws like Koscheck, Alves, Rumble, Hardy, Semtex, or Paulo Thiago nails him?

His striking skills were always sub par, and thats what keeps him from really extending his career. His shot is telegraphed as a result of his speed dropping. His bread and butter is therefore less effective. You think anyone who does any kind of research won't meet every shot with a knee now?
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PostSubject: Re: 5 fighters who need to retire   5 fighters who need to retire EmptyFri Feb 26, 2010 9:28 am

Andrew the Raider King wrote:
These 5 I am picking, because they just don't have much, if anything, left in the tank:

Mirko - He is killing his own legend, just for a paycheck.
Big Nog - Has looked good in 1 fight in 2 years, time to pack it in.
Pulver - Tired of watching him get worked over by questionable opponents.
Trigg - Hasn't looked good in a while.
Hughes - Looks in great shape, but is not the fighter he once was.


agree all but nog. yeah nog is not his old self but the guy can still bang and needs to get back to his roots which is on the ground.
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