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PostSubject: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 5:43 pm

After last night, I have Cain 3rd, behind Fedor and Brock, I also think those two fighters with Anderson would be Fedor's biggest threats. With leapfroggin Mir, I just think Cain would overwhelm him.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 5:48 pm

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Rogers
6. Santos
7. Nog
8. Carwin
9. Werdum
10. Overeem
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 5:53 pm

Number 2. Better resume than Brock, and obviously the better fighter.

It just boils down to which chest tattoo is less stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 5:56 pm

Obviously the better fighter, man you make me laugh bro.

I love how you consistently dog Brock, but when asked what dream fights would you want, Fedor vs. Brock tops ur list.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 5:57 pm

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Rogers
6. Santos
7. Nog
8. Carwin
9. Werdum
10. Overeem

Rogers at 5? is this you Ninja?
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:01 pm

well I had Nig either 3 or 4 Cain 10 I believe, cant remember, He is top 5 Know IMO

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Dos Santos or Cain
5. Cain or Dos Santos
6. Nog
7. Rogers
8. Werdum
9. Carwin
10. Overeem / Barnett = PUSH , Barnett aint active and Overoid wont come here
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:05 pm

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Velasquez
5. Rogers
6. Dos Santos
7. Nog
8. Carwin
9. Werdum
10 Arlovski
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:06 pm

1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Cain
4. Mir
5. Dos Santos
6. Barnett, would be higher if not for layoff + roids
7. Nog
8. Carwin
9. Werdum
10. Overeem
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:07 pm

tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Rogers
6. Santos
7. Nog
8. Carwin
9. Werdum
10. Overeem

Rogers at 5? is this you Ninja?

I don't see how Rogers at 5 is so far-fetched.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:09 pm

I don't buy into Rogers at all
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:11 pm

Skyab23 wrote:
1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Velasquez
5. Rogers
6. Dos Santos
7. Nog
8. Carwin
9. Werdum
10 Arlovski


really?
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:12 pm

AA is actually 10th for the boards ratings, I have trouble putting him in the top 10, a solid win and he would be though.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:16 pm

Yeah, Arlovski. He beat Rothwell and Nelson just before he loses to Fedor (#1) and Rogers (#5)..that puts him at about 10.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:19 pm

Why is me wanting Fedor to right-hand Brock to death funny to you?

You seriously don't see how Cain is seen as the better fighter by some? It's not like I am the only one who thinks this. He is like a Jose Aldo in that he was crowned long before he ever actually faced anyone. Right now I'd still put him at threeish, considering Barnett is off my rankings for inactivity and Nog is out of the top five.

LA has strange opinions in general. Rogers is a monster.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:20 pm

interesting, I dont consider him top 10 but agree with LA if he beats someone nice than he will be back in
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:23 pm

I don't see how it's so hard to see him in the top 10 when he loses 2 fights, one to the #1 heavyweight, and then Rogers who is a top 10 heavyweight. Just before Arlovski fought Fedor, he was considered a number 1 contender for the Heavyweight title. I guess we should all put Big Nog out of the top 10 as well, since he's lost 2 of his last 3 fights.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:25 pm

I didnt have Andrei as the number uno contendor though, just IMO he isnt, doesnt mean Im right. I still think Nogs a top 10 guy maybe Im wrong
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
Why is me wanting Fedor to right-hand Brock to death funny to you?

You seriously don't see how Cain is seen as the better fighter by some? It's not like I am the only one who thinks this. He is like a Jose Aldo in that he was crowned long before he ever actually faced anyone. Right now I'd still put him at threeish, considering Barnett is off my rankings for inactivity and Nog is out of the top five.

LA has strange opinions in general. Rogers is a monster.

Why? cause I don't believe in Rogers? 10 second fluke win against AA is his claim to fame.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:27 pm

so whats that say about Andrei then ? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:29 pm

That he has a glass jaw and was probably have been caught off gaurd.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:46 pm

You can win too impressively. Rogers is penalized for that.

Rogers is no different than Carwin or many of these other UFC prospects that arrived in the last 2 years, except he is not in the UFC, so he must suck you know.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:53 pm

1.Cain Velasquez
2. Fedro
3. Brock Lesnar
4.Mir
5.Brett Rogers
6.Dos Santos
7.Carwin
8.Big Nog
9.Werdum
10.Overeem









i actually have cain at 4 jus wanted to get you guys rattled
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PostSubject: Re: Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?   Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now? EmptySun Feb 21, 2010 6:56 pm

Not at all, I don't work like that.

Rogers is just a big guy who throws his hands, he fought a whole bunch of nobodies leading up to the AA fight, then came out with IMO, a flukish 10 second KO of a very talented HW with a glass jaw. AA probably took him lightly too, but that's my opinion. And those who saw these positives out of the Fedor fight are really reaching IMO. I think Guys like Carwin would expose Rogers, they'd get takedowns with great wrestling and GnP. Standing they offer the same thinbg as Rogers, minus some speed, one punch power and size. Carwin could just as easily KO Rogers standing as Rogers could Carwin, but Carwin can take Rogers down and GnP. A guy like Dos Santos would murder him IMO, way better striker against a guy whose just a striker, hmm. I think guys like Yvel, Kongo, Gonzo could beat Rogers, though it could go the other way around.
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Who are the three ahead of Cain? Mur?
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tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Not at all, I don't work like that.

Rogers is just a big guy who throws his hands, he fought a whole bunch of nobodies leading up to the AA fight, then came out with IMO, a flukish 10 second KO of a very talented HW with a glass jaw. AA probably took him lightly too, but that's my opinion. And those who saw these positives out of the Fedor fight are really reaching IMO. I think Guys like Carwin would expose Rogers, they'd get takedowns with great wrestling and GnP. Standing they offer the same thinbg as Rogers, minus some speed, one punch power and size. Carwin could just as easily KO Rogers standing as Rogers could Carwin, but Carwin can take Rogers down and GnP. A guy like Dos Santos would murder him IMO, way better striker against a guy whose just a striker, hmm. I think guys like Yvel, Kongo, Gonzo could beat Rogers, though it could go the other way around.

Yo I could buy this. I never put Rogers at 5 and don't agree with that, but I do think he is a top 10 guy. His size and athleticism makes his lack of wrestling pedigree more workable. Lesnar and Carwin are only good wrestlers due to size. Not that he will ever be as good as they are, but I think he could catch up.

His speed for his size is really what makes me think a lot of him. Also the improvement in his technique from fight to fight. I like his future.
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