Bader's gonna be pretty good

Nice finish kid

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Nice finish kid

I only saw the last minute of the fight but he had a good finish.

Nice win...BUT i'm still not convinced this guy will ever take on the likes of Lyoto, Shogun, Rampage and Rogerio without getting the smackdown.

He is part of the next wave of guys who will be contending for titles in five years. Jon Jones, King Mo, Phil Davis, Luiz Cane, Steve Cantwell.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

He is part of the next wave of guys who will be contending for titles in five years. Jon Jones, King Mo, Phil Davis, Luiz Cane, Steve Cantwell.

five years? really?

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Nice win...BUT i'm still not convinced this guy will ever take on the likes of Lyoto, Shogun, Rampage and Rogerio without getting the smackdown.

Those guys are the best of the best

Seriously he just named the top fighters in the world at LHW. I see bader getting way better he is only 26.

Ya, five years or less. In the next five years I should have said.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Nice win...BUT i'm still not convinced this guy will ever take on the likes of Lyoto, Shogun, Rampage and Rogerio without getting the smackdown.

Those guys are the best of the best

I know...i'm just saying i don't ever see Bader being on that level.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Nice win...BUT i'm still not convinced this guy will ever take on the likes of Lyoto, Shogun, Rampage and Rogerio without getting the smackdown.

Those guys are the best of the best

I know...i'm just saying i don't ever see Bader being on that level.

hes 26

Yeah I'm saying pretty good, think he'll be a guy just below that level, which is still really good. I think down the line he'll at least get a title shot.

Bader vs. Davis

Wasn't really impressed with Bader.

His boxing and cardio still make me doubt him. He still has time to develop though. If he puts it all together he could be great and contender.

Wolf, you really think Cantwell is going to be a contender? He's young but he really needs to improve before any talk of a title contender imo.

Yeah Im with Ninja his boxing has to get alot better and he did look alittle gassed last night. He threw alot of bombs that missed by a mile.

Guys, he is a 26 year old wrestler.

All wrestlers suck at striking initially. He has only been training striking for three years. In another three he, like most elite wrestling athletic talents, will have up-graded his striking tremendously.

He just knocked out a top-tenish LHW standing, his boxing isn't that bad now is it?

Well Jardine has been KOed in like 3 or 4 fights semi recently so Bader did knock him out but really who isnt knocking Jardine out these days lol. For a wrestler his cardio should be alittle better in my opion, but u are right Wolf he is still young but he has along way to go to be a very good striker. He left himself open so many times with wild punches that Jardine didnt take advantage of but all in all I thought he looked good.

I don't see a real cardio issue for him.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I don't see a real cardio issue for him.

I could be wrong but I thought he looked alittle gassed last night but to be honest I was alittle fucked up lol.

Being a little tired in the third round of a grueling fight isn't that bad of a knock imo.

The Jardine Bader fight showed what we know. If Bader gets the chance for a clean connection our gonna get hurt. That fight was a lot closer then I thought it would be. My friends were arguing about who won the first two rounds and I was like no one is winning this fight really. It was a stalemate. I was convinced that in the third Jardine was doing the little things that could have eeked him out a win but Bader pulled the perfect string of moves out. punch some queer into him, knock him off balance with a big knee forcing him to drop his hand for balance and level him over that dropped hand. Bader still have a lot to learn but a win is always a step in the right direction.

The fight was 1 rd a piece I think going into the 3rd.

Bader got a good win against a top 20 LHW, Jardine hasn't been exactly losing to chumps latley.

I actually do see Cardio as an issue for Bader. He was exhausted in the second round against Red. He seemed to be a bit gassed in the second against Jardine. He always seems to come back strong late though. Maybe it's an adrenaline dump issue, but the second round seems to give him issues as far as cardio goes.

He just has to learn how to control his energy better, he throws everthing into every punch.

I need to rewatch this fight since I didn't find a link until mid 3rd round of this fight. Before last night Bader always gassed in his few fights I have see cept the KO against the can he fought last year.