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PostSubject: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 6:42 pm

Flo is my pick on the GOR. But my pick is in part based off my belief that Flo has a reach advantage. But a couple guys on the ESPN board(I know, an awful source for info) we're saying that Penn has the reach advantage. Anyone got an official tale of the tape?
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 7:01 pm

BJ has a 70 in. reach.

Kenny has a 74 in. reach.
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 7:04 pm

aight, I'm cool with my pick.

just for shits and giggle's, what was Penn's reach adv vs Sherk?
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 7:08 pm

captain organic wrote:
aight, I'm cool with my pick.

just for shits and giggle's, what was Penn's reach adv vs Sherk?

Sherk's reach is 67 in.

http://www.myvideofight.com/UFC/Sean-Sherk-vs-Frankie-Edgar-UFC-98-Video
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 7:14 pm

And here is proof that Kenny has a 74 in reach. Check 7:31.


http://www.mmalinker.com/xExternal.php?vidid=18447
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 7:20 pm

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
captain organic wrote:
aight, I'm cool with my pick.

just for shits and giggle's, what was Penn's reach adv vs Sherk?

Sherk's reach is 67 in.

http://www.myvideofight.com/UFC/Sean-Sherk-vs-Frankie-Edgar-UFC-98-Video

Wow I would have thought the difference was much more then that. That fight should have won Penn an award for Best Use of the Jab in an MMA Fight. I loved that fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 2:42 am

Reach is a good stat to use for boxers or MMA fighters that use boxing as their standup style. Kenny is a Muay thai guy and his reach is not a big factor seeing as he favors kicks and the clinch. Actually on the ground those longer arms may be a weekness seeing how you have bj on his back with that much more limb to grab on too.
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 7:00 am

muayjitsu wrote:
Reach is a good stat to use for boxers or MMA fighters that use boxing as their standup style. Kenny is a Muay thai guy and his reach is not a big factor seeing as he favors kicks and the clinch. Actually on the ground those longer arms may be a weekness seeing how you have bj on his back with that much more limb to grab on too.

Kenny's a great boxer as well as muay thai guy. That's what makes him so dangerous, he's good from range and in the clinch. He has one of the best boxing coaches out there right now in Peter Welch, he uses angles excellently, he has great hands, he has great head movement, and he has an excellent jab. Reach is definitely important in this fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 8:14 pm

chorky777 wrote:
muayjitsu wrote:
Reach is a good stat to use for boxers or MMA fighters that use boxing as their standup style. Kenny is a Muay thai guy and his reach is not a big factor seeing as he favors kicks and the clinch. Actually on the ground those longer arms may be a weekness seeing how you have bj on his back with that much more limb to grab on too.

Kenny's a great boxer as well as muay thai guy. That's what makes him so dangerous, he's good from range and in the clinch. He has one of the best boxing coaches out there right now in Peter Welch, he uses angles excellently, he has great hands, he has great head movement, and he has an excellent jab. Reach is definitely important in this fight.

Plus with reach(with kick's as well as punches) Florian may have the advantage from distance, with an excellent clinch game, Flo may have the advantage when the fight is tight. Penn may have to find that middle ground comfort zone.

Vs Huerta Flo showed that he uses the reach very well. I know Penn is not Huerta, but let's not act like the reach advantage is not significant.
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 9:16 pm

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
captain organic wrote:
aight, I'm cool with my pick.

just for shits and giggle's, what was Penn's reach adv vs Sherk?

Sherk's reach is 67 in.

http://www.myvideofight.com/UFC/Sean-Sherk-vs-Frankie-Edgar-UFC-98-Video

You sure you didn't misplace a decimal in there somewhere? Watching Sherk try and throw I would think it's closer to 6.7"...
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PostSubject: Re: Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage?   Penn vs Flo- Reach Advantage? EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 11:01 pm

Reach is hella important in all MMA fights. Brock landed that shot on Randy that he clearly saw coming because he has a 304 inch reach.

bloodyelbow had one of those big dumb write ups after Sherk lost to Edgar about the problems with his striking. All bunk. If he had 74 inches of reach he'd be a ko artist with his current skill set everything being equal. This is MMA, not boxing.
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