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PostSubject: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 1:45 am

Dude is lethal, Yvel is no joke standing too. Yeah he may be a little small for HW, plus you got those mammath wrestlers, but he's just one shot away.

What u think he'd be like as a LHW? where would u put him if he dropped down?


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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 1:48 am

Solid but do u think he could make light heavy? he doesnt have alot of fat to cut lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 1:48 am

I consider him the best striker at HW outside of Overeem and Fedor.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 1:48 am

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
I consider him the best striker at HW outside of Overeem and Fedor.

Yes!!!! He's really that legit
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 1:49 am

timthebim wrote:
Solid but do u think he could make light heavy? he doesnt have alot of fat to cut lol.

Truw, but he weighd in at 23 call it 8
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 1:51 am

205 would be out of the ? LA. but he is 20 lbs smaller than the bigger wrestlers out there
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 2:24 am

I'd argue he is a canidate for the best HW striker in MMA at this point. He looked a lot less stiff than before and considering Overeem is a cheating fraud he is probably better than he is as well. Especially in the cage where he won't be able to grow his lats every three weeks after he is TKO'd. Fedor seems to out strike strikers so he is still the best, but Dos Santos looks pretty damn good. I wish they'd bring back AA so he could fight him.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 4:24 am

Coming around on my boy huh?

AA IMO is still the most talented HW striker, but he comes with a weak chin and leaves himself open at times. Dos would most likely KO him, but I'd watch htat fight all day
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 8:11 pm

Just curious what people think on this, I still think he's a legit top 10 HW, but he is a little small, as a LHW I think he could beat anyone on a given day
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 8:20 pm

I still can't call him top 10 until he beats someone in the top 10. Hopefully his next fight will be against someone better. I mean damn, it was Yvel's debut in the octagon and he just didn't look good at all. He was overmatched big time. It was an impressive performance for sure but he needs a step up in competition.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 8:31 pm

I dont think he could make 205.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 8:51 pm

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I still can't call him top 10 until he beats someone in the top 10. Hopefully his next fight will be against someone better. I mean damn, it was Yvel's debut in the octagon and he just didn't look good at all. He was overmatched big time. It was an impressive performance for sure but he needs a step up in competition.

He's clearly a top 10 HW, he was before this fight and KO'd an extremely talented striker, Also Werdum was top 10 when Dos KO'd him.

Not taking the time to order it but, Fedor, Brock, Nog, Mir, Cain, Barnett, Carwin, Dos Santos, Overeem, Werdum

And Red, he weighed in at 237lb last night, that's obviously no cut
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 9:05 pm

1. No way he can make 205

2. He's too slow for Shogun, Machida, and Rashad.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 9:34 pm

He could easily KO anyone, and Rashad? please, I have a list of guys beating Rashad

Machida
Shogun
Page
Lil Nog
Anderson as a LHW obviously
Mousasi
Hendo as a LHW
Vitor as a LHW
And Dos Santos

Also cutting from 237lb, how is that a no way he makes 205?
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 9:46 pm

Because he doesn't carry that much fat on him.

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Say he cuts 10-12lbs of water weight. That still leaves about 20-22lbs.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 10:40 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
Because he doesn't carry that much fat on him.

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Say he cuts 10-12lbs of water weight. That still leaves about 20-22lbs.

That was my point exactly the guy is cut up there isnt much to cut.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptySun Jan 03, 2010 10:50 pm

Farmer1906 wrote:
Because he doesn't carry that much fat on him.

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Say he cuts 10-12lbs of water weight. That still leaves about 20-22lbs.

Def a valid point Farm, he's cut up like a julian salad, I'll just say I think it's possible, but he'll stay a HW anyways
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 12:40 am

He's a heavyweight with some massive power. He can bang with anyone. I dont picture at ever fighting at lhw
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 1:22 am

Why would he want to, his is mowing through guys, 20 pounds of muscle is not a fun cut, he doesn't have the wiry body like Anderson that would let him do that and still maintain his strength, I think he needs to put on more weight about 10 pounds to be able to not get bulled around by Lesnar if he comes back and other HW's
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 1:58 am

Why would he want to, it's obvious, although a devasting striker, that division is filled now with huge talented jj and wrestling fighters, who have some power thamselves, he's one of the smallest guys in that division, some outweigh him by 40+lbs, considering he weighed in at 237lbs. I'm a fan, and think he's def top 10 and has been, but it's a simple question of what he'd be like as a LHW.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am

Why does he half to be a LHW? Cain's not a very big guy, neither is Nog. Just because Brock and Carwin are huge dosn't mean a more skilled fighter can't hang with them. He'll be ok. And if JDS isn't a top 10 guy then who the hell is? Yvel is pretty good at striking, Barnett had to take him down to beat him.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 6:59 pm

But Cain is an elite wrestler and we haven't seen him face another good wrestler like Brock or Carwin yet to see if his size disadvantage would come into play. Nog train's Dos so that fight wouldn't happen. But Brock, Carwin and Mir are huge now, and while he's a more skilled striker, those 3 guys are more skilled in jj and wrestling, and have 40+ lbs on him, plus 1 punch power. Never said he had to be, but what if he was.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptyMon Jan 04, 2010 11:16 pm

I do not think he can cut to 205. Yet he can't hang with the guys who cut to make 265.

what is the hold up on the 235 division?
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 12:46 am

He can hang don't get me wrong, the question was posed as why he'd want to drop, so I made the argument, really all I wanted to know was what he'd be like as a LHW, since he isn't that big, but no one answered.
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PostSubject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW   Dos Santos as a LHW EmptyTue Jan 05, 2010 12:50 am

At LHW he would be a fuckin monster but every1 has the same point that we all think it couldnt happen. He is to big.
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