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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:45 am | |
| Dude is lethal, Yvel is no joke standing too. Yeah he may be a little small for HW, plus you got those mammath wrestlers, but he's just one shot away.
What u think he'd be like as a LHW? where would u put him if he dropped down?
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:48 am | |
| Solid but do u think he could make light heavy? he doesnt have alot of fat to cut lol. | |
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Ninja Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone with the last name Rua or Emelianenko and Uncle Creepy Posts : 3831 Join date : 2009-07-15
| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:48 am | |
| I consider him the best striker at HW outside of Overeem and Fedor. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:48 am | |
| - Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
- I consider him the best striker at HW outside of Overeem and Fedor.
Yes!!!! He's really that legit | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:49 am | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- Solid but do u think he could make light heavy? he doesnt have alot of fat to cut lol.
Truw, but he weighd in at 23 call it 8 | |
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Cu Bu Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : AXE MURDERER Posts : 3648 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Norman oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:51 am | |
| 205 would be out of the ? LA. but he is 20 lbs smaller than the bigger wrestlers out there | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:24 am | |
| I'd argue he is a canidate for the best HW striker in MMA at this point. He looked a lot less stiff than before and considering Overeem is a cheating fraud he is probably better than he is as well. Especially in the cage where he won't be able to grow his lats every three weeks after he is TKO'd. Fedor seems to out strike strikers so he is still the best, but Dos Santos looks pretty damn good. I wish they'd bring back AA so he could fight him. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:24 am | |
| Coming around on my boy huh?
AA IMO is still the most talented HW striker, but he comes with a weak chin and leaves himself open at times. Dos would most likely KO him, but I'd watch htat fight all day | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:11 pm | |
| Just curious what people think on this, I still think he's a legit top 10 HW, but he is a little small, as a LHW I think he could beat anyone on a given day | |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Fedor and GSP Posts : 3124 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 44 Location : Houston, TX
| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:20 pm | |
| I still can't call him top 10 until he beats someone in the top 10. Hopefully his next fight will be against someone better. I mean damn, it was Yvel's debut in the octagon and he just didn't look good at all. He was overmatched big time. It was an impressive performance for sure but he needs a step up in competition. | |
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redvexx8 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:31 pm | |
| I dont think he could make 205. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:51 pm | |
| - Bigs03 wrote:
- I still can't call him top 10 until he beats someone in the top 10. Hopefully his next fight will be against someone better. I mean damn, it was Yvel's debut in the octagon and he just didn't look good at all. He was overmatched big time. It was an impressive performance for sure but he needs a step up in competition.
He's clearly a top 10 HW, he was before this fight and KO'd an extremely talented striker, Also Werdum was top 10 when Dos KO'd him. Not taking the time to order it but, Fedor, Brock, Nog, Mir, Cain, Barnett, Carwin, Dos Santos, Overeem, Werdum And Red, he weighed in at 237lb last night, that's obviously no cut | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:05 pm | |
| 1. No way he can make 205
2. He's too slow for Shogun, Machida, and Rashad. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:34 pm | |
| He could easily KO anyone, and Rashad? please, I have a list of guys beating Rashad
Machida Shogun Page Lil Nog Anderson as a LHW obviously Mousasi Hendo as a LHW Vitor as a LHW And Dos Santos
Also cutting from 237lb, how is that a no way he makes 205? | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:46 pm | |
| Because he doesn't carry that much fat on him. Say he cuts 10-12lbs of water weight. That still leaves about 20-22lbs. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:40 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- Because he doesn't carry that much fat on him.
Say he cuts 10-12lbs of water weight. That still leaves about 20-22lbs. That was my point exactly the guy is cut up there isnt much to cut. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:50 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- Because he doesn't carry that much fat on him.
Say he cuts 10-12lbs of water weight. That still leaves about 20-22lbs. Def a valid point Farm, he's cut up like a julian salad, I'll just say I think it's possible, but he'll stay a HW anyways | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:40 am | |
| He's a heavyweight with some massive power. He can bang with anyone. I dont picture at ever fighting at lhw | |
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cascade_run Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:22 am | |
| Why would he want to, his is mowing through guys, 20 pounds of muscle is not a fun cut, he doesn't have the wiry body like Anderson that would let him do that and still maintain his strength, I think he needs to put on more weight about 10 pounds to be able to not get bulled around by Lesnar if he comes back and other HW's | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:58 am | |
| Why would he want to, it's obvious, although a devasting striker, that division is filled now with huge talented jj and wrestling fighters, who have some power thamselves, he's one of the smallest guys in that division, some outweigh him by 40+lbs, considering he weighed in at 237lbs. I'm a fan, and think he's def top 10 and has been, but it's a simple question of what he'd be like as a LHW. | |
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ohiovol62 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am | |
| Why does he half to be a LHW? Cain's not a very big guy, neither is Nog. Just because Brock and Carwin are huge dosn't mean a more skilled fighter can't hang with them. He'll be ok. And if JDS isn't a top 10 guy then who the hell is? Yvel is pretty good at striking, Barnett had to take him down to beat him. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:59 pm | |
| But Cain is an elite wrestler and we haven't seen him face another good wrestler like Brock or Carwin yet to see if his size disadvantage would come into play. Nog train's Dos so that fight wouldn't happen. But Brock, Carwin and Mir are huge now, and while he's a more skilled striker, those 3 guys are more skilled in jj and wrestling, and have 40+ lbs on him, plus 1 punch power. Never said he had to be, but what if he was. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:16 pm | |
| I do not think he can cut to 205. Yet he can't hang with the guys who cut to make 265.
what is the hold up on the 235 division? | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:46 am | |
| He can hang don't get me wrong, the question was posed as why he'd want to drop, so I made the argument, really all I wanted to know was what he'd be like as a LHW, since he isn't that big, but no one answered. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Dos Santos as a LHW Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:50 am | |
| At LHW he would be a fuckin monster but every1 has the same point that we all think it couldnt happen. He is to big. | |
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