Subject: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:59 pm
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"The UFC was appalled by the transphobic comments made by heavyweight Matt Mitrione today in an interview on "the MMA Hour".
"The organization finds Mr Mitrione’s comments offensive and wholly unacceptable and - as a direct result of this significant breach of the UFC’s code of conduct – Mr Mitrione’s UFC contract has been suspended and the incident is being investigated.
"The UFC is a friend and ally of the LGBT community, and expects and requires all 450 of its athletes to treat others with dignity and respect."
After telling another joke, host Ariel Helwani asked Mitrione, "Why do you hate Fallon Fox so much, and why do you keep calling she a 'he'?"
"Because she's not a he. He's a he," he said. "He's chromosomally a man. He had a gender change, not a sex change. He's still a man. He was a man for 31 years. Thirty-one years. That's a couple years younger than I am. He's a man. Six years of taking performance de-hancing drugs, you think is going to change all that? That's ridiculous.
"That is a lying, sick, sociopathic, disgusting freak," he continued. "And I mean that. Because you lied on your license to beat up women. That's disgusting. You should be embarrassed yourself. And the fact that Florida licensed him because California licensed him or whoever the hell did it, it's an embarrassment to us as fighters, as a sport, and we all should protest that. The woman that's fighting him, props to you. I hope you beat his ass, and I hope he gets blackballed and never fights again, because that's disgusting and I'm appalled by that."
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:00 pm
I'm not surprised.
But I'd be surprised if this was handed out of Hughes office.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:50 pm
yeah, somebody is clearly stepping on Matt Hughes toes here.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:08 pm
He shouldnt have been suspended in my opinion.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:16 pm
What a fucking joke....Did Dana get suspended for his homophobic comments in the past?...
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:34 pm
Fact is, Mitrione took it too far and if UFC didnt do anything..you bet your ass the UFC would be in headlines the next day for not punishing him and then 24 hours later Mitrione's words are representative of the UFC's feelings on the issue. They had to do something. It's just the world we live in now. I doubt the suspension will be too harsh..they just had to take action and then let it die down.
UFC's no tolerance approach to it is of result of Dana's own fuck up though. Thats what makes it pretty funny. They have to walk on egg shells on this stuff because the fuckin president of the company made an immature video over something incredibly stupid..got publically shamed and had to give out the fake apology.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:38 pm
Not one person would've stopped watching the UFC because of those comments so Matt shouldn't have been suspended.
Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:45 pm
Matt makes a good point. Its basically a dude beting up chicks and that's fucked up.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:54 pm
freakzilla wrote:
Not one person would've stopped watching the UFC because of those comments so Matt shouldn't have been suspended.
That's not what they're afraid of. If the activists get rolling on this(which they would big time if UFC didnt step on it quick), it becomes bad publicity and sponsers get pissed off.
Say the UFC did nothing and refused to do anything because Mitrione has the right to his opinion. Next day the spokesman for a powerful gay, bi, tranny group spins Mitrione's individual comments into something that represents the UFC organization as a whole, "this is how they feel" in the process they'll bring up Dana White's brush with these groups. It will all be complete garbage but heat is heat...and sponsers feel that and bolt It happens all the time. The expectation from those groups and sponsers, is that UFC punishes Mitrione and they did it.
Like Rush Limbaugh for example probably didnt lose any listeners after he slayed Sandra Fluke..shit, he might even gained some for all i know..but he still had to do major damage control because of the horrible publicity and he lost a shitload of sponsers.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:56 pm
But when you start referring as a transgender person with terms like freak, disgusting, sociopath, etc....your employer certainly has the right to take action and most would
My only problem is it seems he brought those up while discussing how appalled he was that the information about the sex change wasn't disclosed before a fight which is a totally different story
Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:59 pm
KingsOwn19 wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Not one person would've stopped watching the UFC because of those comments so Matt shouldn't have been suspended.
That's not what they're afraid of. If the activists get rolling on this(which they would big time if UFC didnt step on it quick), it becomes bad publicity and sponsers get pissed off.
Say the UFC did nothing and refused to do anything because Mitrione has the right to his opinion. Next day the spokesman for a powerful gay, bi, tranny group spins Mitrione's individual comments into something that represents the UFC organization as a whole, "this is how they feel" in the process they'll bring up Dana White's brush with these groups. It will all be complete garbage but heat is heat...and sponsers feel that and bolt It happens all the time. The expectation from those groups and sponsers, is that UFC punishes Mitrione and they did it.
Like Rush Limbaugh for example probably didnt lose any listeners after he slayed Sandra Fluke..shit, he might even gained some for all i know..but he still had to do major damage control because of the horrible publicity and he lost a shitload of sponsers.
Kings is right. Its all about being politically correct and being scared of pissing people off.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:45 pm
Dana and Zuffa want the UFC to be mainstream so you gotta remain PC. I don't agree with the decision but I understand why they're doing it.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:44 am
Meathead just fought, I'm sure his suspension won't really effect his timeline for his next fight. So really it's a way for the UFC to "punish" Meathead without actually punishing him. Suspend him for 3 months...he fights in 4, what's the big deal? Looks good on paper though.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:48 am
bunch of bullshit.......meat spoke the truth and this fuck with a vag needs to get lost. Meat spoke up for the right of the sport and props to him for doing so. Yeah he might of went off a little but so be it. ala dana rant
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:09 am
I'm surprised anyone is surprised. Plenty of people, myself included, have the same view on Fox fighting women. Difference is most people are decent enough to not present it like prejudice idiots weather they are hate filled individuals or not. If you're prejudice be prejudice, but expect to be told to fuck off when you air it out, especially by your employer.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:53 pm
Anyways, I watched the whole MMA Hour interview. Matt isn't intelligent. Miguel Torres. Matt wrote jokes to be told about Loyyd Irvin and rape chokes, before his written material about Fox. Not intelligent.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:48 pm
Now Fallon herself has responded, releasing the following to MMA Fighting:
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"Matt Mitrione went well beyond disagreeing with the medical experts who say I should be able to compete as a woman, and personally attacked me as a fighter, as a woman, and as a human being.
"His comments do not reflect the spirit of our sport, where most competitors uphold values like respect and dignity."
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:27 pm
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Now Fallon herself has responded, releasing the following to MMA Fighting:
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"Matt Mitrione went well beyond disagreeing with the medical experts who say I should be able to compete as a woman, and personally attacked me as a fighter, as a woman, and as a human being.
"His comments do not reflect the spirit of our sport, where most competitors uphold values like respect and dignity."
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:38 am
mitrione's comments were idiotic, especially in the world we live in where the very notion of free speech is an outdated memory.
he could have spoken his mind in a different way and it wouldn't have been an issue, but calling fox a 'sick, sociopathic freak' does not encourage intelligent debate on the subject.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:55 am
cheekynffc wrote:
mitrione's comments were idiotic, especially in the world we live in where the very notion of free speech is an outdated memory.
he could have spoken his mind in a different way and it wouldn't have been an issue, but calling fox a 'sick, sociopathic freak' does not encourage intelligent debate on the subject.
Nobody is taking away his freedom of speech, but nowhere in the american bill of rights does it say that an employer needs to let an employee say whatever they want while at the same time representing the employer whether directly or indirectly. Freedom of speech means he cannot be arrested or imprisoned for things he says aloud or in the media, and he can also choose any religion he likes without similar persecution.
Unfortunately for Mitrione the world we live in is one in which professional athletes are constant representatives of their "teams"(read organizations/employers). Though I doubt this hurts him any to be honest. He'll probably only be out 3-4 months which he'd have likely been out anyway.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:04 pm
Dana White wrote:
Work at a company in America and say ignorant stuff publicly and see what happens to you.
Hello pot, meet kettle.
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Subject: Re: Meathead suspended for comments about Fallon Fox Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:15 pm
Jon Jones had the following to say about Mitrione (via MMA Junkie):
"I think he's terrible for that," Jones said. "It's ridiculous. I think Fallon Fox, that's a strong person. Despite what the person has been through in their life, that's a strong person. I'm a fan of that person because of what they've gone through and what they're willing to go through.
"People like Matt Mitrione are scumbags. He's a scumbag. I don't care if he's off suspension or doesn't fight again. He's a ridiculous person."
"He needs to shut his mouth," Jones said. "That's how I feel about that kid. He's scum."
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