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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:37 pm
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I'm in the courtroom for the Eddie Alvarez hearing that could determine his fighting future. I spoke to him; he's nervous but hopeful.
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Early on, Judge Linares seems skeptical that Alvarez would be irreparably harmed by missing out on UFC 159 opportunity
Mike Chiappetta MMA@MikeChiappetta
FOX vs Spike is being argued now, and whether that is a fair match in the contract.
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Alvarez's attorney arguing that Bellator saying they will put him on PPV's is an "illusory" match.
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Judge to Alvarez's side on Bellator's PPV match issue: "you're asking me to assume they're going to breach a contract".
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Alvarez counsel citing his world ranking dipping due to public perception of Bellator as issue of non-monetary damages.
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Bellator counsel saying Spike/Viacom platform has proven strong launching point for PPV.
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Bellator attorney says a match is "monetary, plain & simple," and says they matched.
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Bellator: "you can't suggest with a straight face that Fox is better than Spike. They're both mega-entities."
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Bellator attorney: "I'm representing to the court that yes, we have a major fight lined up" for #Alvarez
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Decision on #Alvarez will be made later today. Either judge will grant injunction allowing him to fight at UFC 159, or court process goes on
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:41 pm
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I spoke to Eddie at conclusion of hearing. He feels 50/50 on outcome but feels the judge was fair with his questions. Waiting game now.
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:00 pm
Quote :
Bellator: "you can't suggest with a straight face that Fox is better than Spike. They're both mega-entities."
2 shows on Spike with Bellator, one ratings detail released: Bellator 85 - 938,000 viewers. Bellator 86 - We'll find out later today.
Fox Networks UFC event programming comparison: UFC on FOX 1 - 5.7 million viewers UFC on FOX 2 - 4.7 million viewers UFC on FOX 3 - 2.25 million viewers UFC on FOX 4 - 2.36 million viewers UFC on FOX 5 - 3.41 million viewers UFC on FX 1 - 1.3 million viewers UFC on FX 2 - 1.4 million viewers UFC on FX 3 - 1.1 million viewers UFC on FX 4 - 1.3 million viewers UFC on FX 5 - 1.1 million viewers UFC on FX 6 - 970,000 viewers UFC on FX 7 - 1.9 million viewers UFC on Fuel 1 - 217,000 viewers UFC on Fuel 2 - 197,000 viewers UFC on Fuel 3 - 173,000 viewers UFC on Fuel 4 - 300,000 viewers UFC on Fuel 5 - 140,000 viewers UFC on Fuel 6 - 143,000 viewers
Average viewers per Bellator on Spike event - 938,000 viewers Average viewers per UFC on a Fox Network event - 1.6 Million viewers
FOX is better than Spike.
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:21 pm
Court ruled on Eddie's injunction
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:05 pm
I hope they rule in Eddie's favor.
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:22 pm
They didnt. He was denied.
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:26 pm
KingsOwn19 wrote:
They didnt. He was denied.
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:40 pm
That's some bullshit!
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:37 pm
I think this thing is having an effect on the future landscape of the sport.
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:40 pm
The chances of Eddie winning that were slim. As far as the actual trial, I still have a hard time believing the Fox-Spike difference won't win him the case
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:31 pm
I wonder if Eddie will be at or on the rumble tonight to stick it tna.
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:02 pm
GDPofDRC wrote:
I think this thing is having an effect on the future landscape of the sport.
In this way, the business of contracts, who signs where when and why for how much, this is changing it in Zuffa and other I think.
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:29 pm
Certification of Dave Meltzer filed in Alvarez-Bellator lawsuit
February 11, 2013
MMA Fighting and the Wrestling Observer’s Dave Meltzer has filed a certification of UFC PPV numbers in a recent filing in the Eddie Alvarez-Bellator lawsuit. Meltzer, filing on behalf of Alvarez, attests to UFC PPV buy rates and makes an estimate on buy rates featuring GSP and Jon Jones.
Notably, in the January 24, 2013 certification, he testified that cards headlined by GSP average 770K PPV buys excluding UFC 100. Jon Jones’ average between 500-525K buys. His Certification also includes a breakdown of UFC PPV buys over the last 3 years. The premise is that Alvarez would have appeared on a card which headlined GSP or Jones.
In the Certification, he indicates that he is “one of the best, if not the best, source of pay per view buy rates in mixed martial arts.” Meltzer states that he has reviewed the Declaration of Ray Longboard as it relates to Mr. Longboard’s opinion that Alvarez would not have received 200K PPV buys if he were to appear on a UFC PPV. Mr. Longboard’s Declaration was filed in conjunction with Bellator’s opposition brief to Alvarez’s request for a preliminary injunction.
Meltzer states that the UFC has averaged between 450K to 475K PPV buys over the last 3 years. Only twice did the UFC draw 200K or below in those 3 years according to Meltzer.
Meltzer stated that if Alvarez appeared on a PPV with GSP, the buy rate would exceed 680K PPV buys. He stated that a Jones PPV with Alvarez participating would exceed 450K PPV buys.
Meltzer indicates that the “buy rates are an approximations which are calculated from various other indicators, but are generally accepted as accurate throughout the mixed martial arts industry.” Payout Perspective:
Interesting. In addition to the Certification, Meltzer includes a list of PPV buys (which he lists as “UFC PPV Estimates”) over the past three years. MMA Payout has updated our Bluebook and you can view them here. This is a very interesting turn of events as the Certification opens up the issue of how PPV buys are estimated. Although the Certification does not go into detail about how buy rates are approximated, this method will come out during a deposition and/or other phase of discovery. The question will be whether Mr. Meltzer will divulge his methods and/or sources. This brings up journalistic ethics versus the law. Would a Court require Meltzer to divulge a source and/or would Meltzer risk being in contempt? At this point, Bellator would argue that the methods of Meltzer are undefined and that his opinion of the PPV estimates lack foundation and call for speculation.
The discovery phase of the Alvarez case just got a little more interesting. We will see the extent as to how much Bellator will try to pull back the curtain on PPV buys.
It's gonna be a long time..it won't end until he A)inks a deal with Bellator B)the court rules that Bellator didnt match and he's free to go to UFC C)He waits it out...which from what i understand is a long long time.
So unless he chooses option A. I'm afriad he'll be in limbo for...
The legal battle between the former champion and his former employer continues. Bellator attempted to get the crux of Alvarez's counterclaim dismissed, but the motion was rejected by the presiding judge.
Judge Jose L. Linares of the U.S. District court denied Bellator's motion. SI.com provides the quote from Judge Linares' decision:
"In deciding the instant motion to dismiss, this Court must accept allegations in Alvarez's counterclaim as true," wrote Judge Linares. "Accepting the validity of Bellator's argument would require this Court to make a factual determination that Bellator, in fact, had a legitimate business-related justification for proposing a contract to Alvarez purporting to match the Zuffa offer. It would be inappropriate for this Court to make a factual determination at this stage."
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Subject: Re: Bellator Sues Alvarez: Updates from todays court session Fri May 03, 2013 6:02 am