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PostSubject: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 1:25 pm

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/5/27/3046426/ufc-president-dana-white-daniel-cormier-205

Last night's UFC 146 all-heavyweight main card was very exciting and delivered more than I thought it would. There are still many MMA fans who haven't forgotten last weekend's showing by Daniel Cormier against Josh Barnett at Strikeforce.

When UFC president Dana White was asked about Cormier and his future in the UFC, Dana hinted that he made it clear that he doesn't think Cormier's future is at heavyweight (via ESPN):

"Yes, he will end up coming over to the UFC. The thing is I'd love to see the guy go down to 205lbs," White said. "I think he's a small heavyweight over here.

"Listen, I respect Josh Barnett, he did work Barnett. Barnett fights like once a year, I'm not taking anything away from Barnett, but it's a whole other ball game over here.

"I'm not telling him [Cormier], if the guy wants to stay at heavyweight, I'm not going to tell him where to go, but I think it would be a good move for him to go to 205."

Cormier certainly isn't a huge heavyweight, it's hard to argue that. But he's also been very successful as a smaller heavyweight.

How different are things in the UFC from Strikeforce?

Barnett is an established, pretty good sized heavyweight. Cormier put a beating on Antonio Silva, who is clearly a huge heavyweight (and was good enough to fight in the co-main event yesterday). Cain Velasquez's game isn't based on size, nor is Junior dos Santos'.

I'm not saying Cormier wouldn't be a force at 205, I'm just saying that I don't think it's that much of a "whole other ballgame" to where it's easy to anticipate him having trouble.
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Dana should fuck off.
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Shut up Dana
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 3:33 pm

Will someone please slap Dana already.
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GDPofDRC wrote:
Dana should fuck off.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 6:51 pm

Dana is really saying this because he wants to avoid the whole friends with benefits deal that Cain and Cormier have.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 7:00 pm

what a crock of shit
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I like it because I think he provides a nice fight for Johnii Jones
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 7:19 pm

It isn't a crock of shit, it is a promoter having to deal with the headache of two elite training partners in the same weight class. Dana doesn't deserve any hate for this.
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It isn't a crock of shit, it is a promoter having to deal with the headache of two elite training partners in the same weight class. Dana doesn't deserve any hate for this.

Dana suggesting a top 5 heavyweight drop down to 205 because Dana may have problems isn't looking out for Cormier. Its a crock of shit, it doesn't help Cormier who has just proved he is one of the best heavyweights in the world, to abandon his division.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 10:28 pm

Cromier kidneys failed last time he tried to cut weight.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 11:10 pm

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Cromier kidneys failed last time he tried to cut weight.

Bet his kidneys would be just fine is he lost weight the correct way with diet.
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Dana is really saying this because he wants to avoid the whole friends with benefits deal that Cain and Cormier have.

and my b wolf i wasn't saying what a crock of shit to your comment was saying what a crock of shit in general
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 11:15 pm

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Cromier kidneys failed last time he tried to cut weight.

Bet his kidneys would be just fine is he lost weight the correct way with diet.

why are ewe all saying he should drop after what he has accomplished/?

it makes no sense

the dude just vaunted himself up the ladder, but it doesn't work for Dana? so he needs to drop to 205?

No, just no, no one thought Cromier would be where he is today when the tournament was announced, the dude earned it let him try to get the heavyweight belt
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 11:27 pm

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Cromier kidneys failed last time he tried to cut weight.

Bet his kidneys would be just fine is he lost weight the correct way with diet.

why are ewe all saying he should drop after what he has accomplished/?

it makes no sense

the dude just vaunted himself up the ladder, but it doesn't work for Dana? so he needs to drop to 205?

No, just no, no one thought Cromier would be where he is today when the tournament was announced, the dude earned it let him try to get the heavyweight belt

I'm preaching about him deserving the title shot before Cain or Overeem, but he could make 205 without cutting. He has 33 pounds to lose easily.

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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 11:35 pm

If he diets properly he could cut 33 pounds easily though he is going great at HW and shouldn't have to.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptySun May 27, 2012 11:50 pm

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If he diets properly he could cut 33 pounds easily though he is going great at HW and shouldn't have to.

Yea those Olympic guys have no idea how to cut weight.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 1:31 am

BUT WHY SHOULD HE HE JUST EARNED A TOP 3 SPOT IN THE DIVISION
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 2:43 am

FWB is the only reason.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 8:51 am

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BUT WHY SHOULD HE HE JUST EARNED A TOP 3 SPOT IN THE DIVISION

To face guys more his size? To fight for the belt if Cain wins the title? Because his boss recommended it? Because it would be better for his health to not be overweight? There are reasons. Not that great of reasons though.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 10:34 am

Yea, leaving his body where it naturally wants to be is worse for his health than forcing him down to an unnatural 205. He is a natural HW. The discussion is over.
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Yea, leaving his body where it naturally wants to be is worse for his health than forcing him down to an unnatural 205. He is a natural HW. The discussion is over.

Are you blind? He has a gut and boobs. He easily has 30 pounds of bad weight he could lose (not cut). next you're going to tell me Fedor and Nelson are natural heavyweights too.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 12:40 pm

Yes, they are. Not everyone's body is built the same. You are not his doctor nor are you a training partner, coach or clearly anyone who knows anything about this. These are smaller HW's. But you'd be surprised how solid that "fat" is.

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Yes, they are. Not everyone's body is built the same. You are not his doctor nor are you a training partner, coach or clearly anyone who knows anything about this. These are smaller HW's. But you'd be surprised how solid that "fat" is.


Not everyone is going to look like Herman & Kongo, but you're kidding yourself if you think he doesn't have fat to lose.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205   UFC President Dana White Wants Daniel Cormier To Drop To 205 EmptyMon May 28, 2012 2:29 pm

He is a natural HW. Since he is on the small size, keeping a bit of extra padding is advantageous. This is the nature of a division which scales 206-265 pounds.


Deal with it.
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