Bellator 70

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The full Bellator 70 weigh-in results included:

MAIN CARD (MTV2)

Rick Hawn (156) vs. Brent Weedman (156)
Champ Cole Konrad (265.2) vs. Eric Prindle (265)
Hiroshi Nakamura (135.8.) vs. Luis Nogueira (135.8.)
Derek Campos (154.8.) vs. Rich Clementi (157.2) - 157-pound catchweight

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike.com)

Keith Schneider (173.6) vs. Josh Shockley (170.8.) - 173-pound catchweight
A.J. Matthews (170.8.) vs. Charlie Rader (171)
Jeremiah Riggs (185.2) vs. Kelvin Tiller (190.8.)*
Kyle Bradley (156.8.) vs. John Harris (155.8.) - 156-pound catchweight
Derek Arcement (136) vs. Blake Dufour (136)

* - Clementi, Schneider, Tiller and Harris each missed weight and will be fined a portion of their purse.

No NBA game tonight, I expect a slight ratings boost.

A lot of people missing weight yesterday.

GDPofDRC wrote:

A lot of people missing weight yesterday.

Faulty scales.

saulty fales for sure.

GDPofDRC wrote:

saulty fales for sure.

Yeah, No Love for those guys.

LOLOLOL

DUDE

THE GANGSTER WALTER WHITE SHOT IN THE HEAD FOUGHT TONIGHT AND GOT CHOKED TO DEATH ON SPIKE

disappointed wolf...somebody in the chat said JDS has not fought a serious wrestler yet and you didnt destroy him

Yea I did. Who are you? NP roll call.

That was a crazy knockout.

my mind is still blown over the breaking bad actor in the cage. He got did worse than hisenburg did his ass. also, this live chat program sucks, only half my msg's go through and some of these users are insufferable newbs. I like bellator but these new age anti-UFC dweebs who inflate seriously inferior fighters like Konrad and say anyone who believes JDS would beat him is just buying into hype are severely annoying.

Man that guys good. I think he takes Galvao.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

my mind is still blown over the breaking bad actor in the cage. He got did worse than hisenburg did his ass. also, this live chat program sucks, only half my msg's go through and some of these users are insufferable newbs. I like bellator but these new age anti-UFC dweebs who inflate seriously inferior fighters like Konrad and say anyone who believes JDS would beat him is just buying into hype are severely annoying.

you kind of over extended your newfound zuffa shllism saying Schaub would beat Konrad..and now you are calling people anti-UFC dweebs and actually thinking it's the fighters outside of Zuffa getting all the "hype" when it's not getting the zuffa hype job being what holds them in low regard with fans like sadly, you've become.

I reread that four times and finally got what you're trying to say. I am not a Zuffa shill. I never, ever watch primetime or countdown videos. It isn't some hype machine. I've been shitting on Cole Konrad since the beginning of his career. I know how to evaluate fighters. Nothing more. I don't watch hype videos. I cannot stand that stuff. I watch fights. That is it. It isn't being a shill thinking Bellator fighters inherently don't pass a dozen or so UFC or Strikeforce fighters who would smash them. The fighters that are good, like Curran, Dantas, Alvarez, Chandler I rank highly. Guys that are average and would be middle of the pack in the UFC like Falcao I rank in the middle of the pack. There are probably 20 MWs as good or better at the least in the UFC better than him. Is that how im a shill? Justify your comment.

I just think these anti-Zuffa shills go to far and make themselves look retarded. There is the same problem on this site. We got people sticking Rick Hawn in the top five for crying out loud. Top 25, sure, I'll cosign that, but be serious. Not every fighter on TV is built the same. I like Bellator too, but slow the fuck down people. No, it doesn't make you look like a tr00 MMA fan to be "in the know" about Bellator fighters when those fighters are not ranked highly by MMA media and plenty of fans who have been watching the sport for ten years. It just makes you look like you have a smalldick complex and the need to be "underground" or something. Shut that noise off. Evaluate the fighters, fuck the gloves. Fact is, Bellator fighters who would be nobodies in the UFC get higher profile and thus overrated sometimes. Just the way it is.

Schaub would beat Konrad. Schaub is a complete fighter with athletic hips who could block his shot, stay on the outside and knock him out. I do not buy Konrad's style. The UFC and SF passed on him for a reason. His prospect report was dismal and his style of wrestling in the NCAA isn't great against non-cans in MMA. Schaub smashes fat wrestlers. All about the match ups durd. Cole Konrad is garbage.

Schaub is a hack. Complete fighter? get the fuck out of here.

oh what the hell...you think Pat Barry, Schuab, and Mitrione are legit. Yet, Konrad sucks.

The SF purchase killed you.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Schaub is a hack. Complete fighter? get the fuck out of here.

His chin is worthless but he has a good ground game, good hand speed, power, footwork, athletic hips. If he had a chin he'd be in the top five within a year. But his inability to withstand punishment hurts him. What the fuck fights do you watch?

KingsOwn19 wrote:

oh what the hell...you think Pat Barry, Schuab, and Mitrione are legit. Yet, Konrad sucks.

The SF purchase killed you.

Konrad would beat Barry. Konrad "belongs" in the UFC but isn't a notable HW or contender. Again, people, even smart people like you and ninja get profile confused with skill. Konrad has high profile. But he isn't worth his profile. Most Bellator fighters are "ufc level" but where in the UFC would they be ranked?

But those other two guys would kill him. I was saying that from the beginning of Konrad's career. The guy is a fat, useless piece of shit. The first guy with decent hips or an NCAA pedigree he faces murders him. Meat and Schaub are legit. The best HW's are fast, midrange explosive guys who have good hips and speed. This is why fedor dominated. This is why cain, cormier etc dominated. Remember, I was predicting their rise before anyone else in this piece. Do not question my gangsta.

Just about all of them and i've been saying he is trash from the start and you know that.

Still depresses me that CroCop stayed active long enough to take a loss to that hackasaurus rex.

Also, i've never been high on Konrad and never said he would be a high level HW but by the time he's on his way to the UFC, Brendan Slop will be on his way out...actually nvm, i doubt Konrad will be on his way to the UFC after Schaub's next fight.

You never liked Meat or Schaub due to TUF bias, not due to skill. I don't look at gloves, tuf history, bellator history, pride history and over rate UFC fighters like Lesnar, or Bellator fighters or whoever. I look at what I see in the cage.

I ranked Hawn 10 and said he had top 5 potential already. You will come around soon enough.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

You never liked Meat or Schaub due to TUF bias, not due to skill. I don't look at gloves, tuf history, bellator history, pride history and over rate UFC fighters like Lesnar, or Bellator fighters or whoever. I look at what I see in the cage.

not true at all....the skill just isnt there. They both have zero base in MMA and it shows. It only works with brawlers with similar training backgrounds, or shot legends with nerve damage like CroCop.

I don't dislike Mitrione at all. Anybody who dispatches of Kimblow is fine in my book...but he's not good.

10-9 Hawn.

I think he's fallen in love with the KO. Turning down oppurtunities for trips.

Have you seen his career? They've both developed nicely. They're good athletes and have been in the UFC for years. They've got backgrounds in MMA now. This is HW MMA dude. Come on.

Hawn has plenty of potential too. I just think he is top 25 right now. No where near top 10.

10-9 Hawn.