Diaz vs Estima

How could Nick afford to pay that money to the hospital? He drives a crappy car and can't afford a new one or a house. At least that's what he told us all.

Payout Perspective:

No-showing this past weekend probably hurt the Nick Diaz brand. But, then again, this behavior is normal for Diaz. Gracie’s explanation sheds some light on what could have been the problem causing Diaz not to participate Saturday. Certainly, Diaz’s absence hurt the event as many relied on his appearance — sponsors, vendors, fans in attendance and those purchasing the live stream online. Diaz’s explanation is plausible and his demand not to meet a grappler aspiring to be in MMA makes sense from Diaz’s point of view.

From a public relations perspective, it seems like Diaz, not Gracie, could have made the statement about the reasons for not appearing. Regardless of the management of the event or the promises given about his opponent, many people relied on Diaz to appear at the event. Even if he were to decline participation and just show up to sign autographs and/or conduct a demonstration it would save face. With the no-show, it continues the stigma that Diaz does not play the game and hurts future appearance opportunities.

Renzo Gracie on Nick Diaz no-show: 'If there’s someone to blame, it’s me'

Jits, lies and videotape.

There's been a lot of finger-pointing in the wake of last weekend's World Jiu-Jitsu Expo, one that was marred by a canceled "superfight" between Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) welterweight Nick Diaz and his opponent, famed grappling stud Braulio Estima.

Diaz, who failed to appear in the main event, took his ball and went home after getting played by a Brazilian crony, according to his official statement.

The man behind the expo, longtime mixed martial arts (MMA) veteran Renzo Gracie, wants to be the guy to take the blame for the breakdown in communication, as well as his decision to let an "amateur" deal with the fighters scheduled to attend.

His comments from "The MMA Show with Mauro Ranallo" (transcribed by The Score) after the jump.



"I have to be honest, if there’s someone to blame, it’s me. Even though it was my expo, I had one guy working on it and he was good at organizing it and putting it together. The only thing he’s not good at is dealing with fighters. From what I understand, Junior called Cesar Gracie’s room the night previously at midnight and said Braulio Estima would be 10 pounds overweight. You have to understand, Nick Diaz was already giving up too much fighting that caliber of fighter in BJJ. For Nick to take the match, it shows the kind of guts he has. It ended up turning out the way that it did because the guy dealing with the fighters is an amateur, and he didn’t understand the emotions the athletes go through."
Weigh ins, fables and scales, oh my!

While Renzo is (kind of) taking responsibility for last weekend's fiasco, there is a long list of culpable parties. Diaz's temper, Estima's weight cut, Junior's lies and Gracie's leadership make for a volatile mix. And Dana White can't believe you're even shocked!

this Brazilian "Junior" is almost as big a mystery man as the mexican Chael SOnnen

wouldn't Diaz have an advantage by Estima weighing in on the day of? he wouldn't have the time to recover as Diaz did.

killerofchicken wrote:

wouldn't Diaz have an advantage by Estima weighing in on the day of? he wouldn't have the time to recover as Diaz did.

same day weigh ins were found to cause the dehydration which leads to brain swelling, so they determined having a fight the same day that you made your brain swell isn't a good idea. Since no punches the weight drain shouldn't effect Estima other than just going through the actual cut.
IMO this is just Diaz coming out with excuse after excuse.

Birdofthad wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

wouldn't Diaz have an advantage by Estima weighing in on the day of? he wouldn't have the time to recover as Diaz did.

same day weigh ins were found to cause the dehydration which leads to brain swelling, so they determined having a fight the same day that you made your brain swell isn't a good idea. Since no punches the weight drain shouldn't effect Estima other than just going through the actual cut.
IMO this is just Diaz coming out with excuse after excuse.

The drain in itself is hard enough, especially on the day OF!

but IMO Diaz had nothing to lose going into this, if he lost, he would have lost to an elite BJJ black belt and that would have been that. everyone expected him to lose...

Quote :

@CesarGracieBJJ Hi César i was reading yr statement. vry interesting points..

1st- When junior approached me 2 Offer me the fight I was actually training at the blackzilians at the time so obviously I was training Mma. Junior told me abt nick not wanting 2 fight an Mma fighter. I nevr fought before so he said it was fine & y u dnt cancel the fight before if ths was really an issue..??

2nd- nobody has ever bended no rules for me. Because there was no rules set to start off with, it wasnt going to be a UFC match but a superfight on a BJJ Expo so the whole point here was for us to show a fight..has Nick signed a contract that stated the date time and weight that we both need to reach? I didn't. And since this whole thing was going to be a friendly event I really don't see any issue here even if Nick turned up 10lbs overweight. Still when asked I went and dropped the weight to meet the requirement. Actually to put things straight it was myself that called Junior around 10pm Friday to check if there is going to be a weigh in at all. He kept contacting you and got back to me saying I need to be 180 that time, of course I said I can't for the simple reason I was away in Irvine and it was already late at night but I said sure no problem I'll make it first thing in the morning if needed, even if it would put me in a bigger disadvantage I didnt care I just came to fight. Junior had actually called me back no later than midnight that he spoke to you and confirmed the weigh in for 10am.

Besides when did Nick actually weigh in? And who witnessed that if we are being so strict and proffessional?

3rd - you are saying Nick had left by 10am Saturday morning? Why you never said anything then? I even asked you I'd like to see him and his weight and you said he's not gonna come down because he ate already and wouldn't make the weight anymore. And Lana after speaking to you called his room and said he was actually there sleeping. Nobody at any point had mentioned he could have left. Leaving me believing we would fight till the very last minute, now youre talking about lack of proffesionalism in the organisation of the superfight and this was very professional behaviour right?

There is many more points here that I don't agree with but I am just fed up of this whole situation and don't agree for anyone to ever release the blame from Nick for whatever reason, we were there to fight and that's what should happen no excuses, we are both professional athletes and should respect one another no matter what. And this is inexcusable.

Estima

thats a big fuck you to Diaz and Ceaser...

Shit, I didn't need to read Estima's expected response to believe Cesar was trying to stretch perception by his statement on Diaz' behalf. Why even bother. Diaz legacy as irresponsible idiot/ducker is approaching that of the successful MMA fighter.

Yeah, Estima punched holes in Cesar's statement.

I like Diaz as a fighter, but reading all that "he does not want to face anybody going into MMA because he does not want them to benifit in an MMA career because of BJJ match with Nick"...as if a exhibition win over Diaz would even be a pimple on the ass of Braulio Estima's list of achievements in BJJ.

Out of all Estima's wins over top grapplers in the world and winning top tournaments...his win over the Lodi BJJ Champion is what is going to put him over the top. Who does Nick think he is?

My question is how big is Stockton? Where does Nick go on those days when "nobody can find him"? Does nobody know his routine or where he likes to go after all this time?

Not very big. Who knows how hard they actually look.

Cesar Gracie ‏ @CesarGracieBJJ
@BraulioEstima thanks for your response. I think the problem is we both got our information from Junior. Let's get on a radio show together

Poor Junior. Seems to be the fall guy for everybody.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Shit, I didn't need to read Estima's expected response to believe Cesar was trying to stretch perception by his statement on Diaz' behalf. Why even bother. Diaz legacy as irresponsible idiot/ducker is approaching that of the successful MMA fighter.

biggest joke in Cesars BS letter was the, Nick fights MMA so you need to respect him as a man. Oh you mean the guy that DIDNT SHOW UP? I NEED TO RESPECT HIM?

head scratcher

Nothing anyone would have said would have changed the internet nerdsphere response where everyone acts like Jim Rome in their finger wagging about Diaz's character. Clearly, Nick Diaz is Nick Diaz. Like this kind of behavior is a surprise. But obviously his camp was lied to several times and some shit didn't go down right. It isn't just as if Diaz ducked this dude. They were half steppin and Shady and Diaz is a basketcase and won't play that game. Don't fuck around with Diaz and maybe he'll show up.


Maybe.

Lol