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Ninja Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone with the last name Rua or Emelianenko and Uncle Creepy Posts : 3831 Join date : 2009-07-15
| Subject: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:38 pm | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:48 pm | |
| wonder if this is the telling sign that Henderson is done in the UFC
What do you think
Dana really is just getting more petty and childish by the minute | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:31 pm | |
| I wonder how BJ Penn is going to feel about this. He's been sponsered by RVCA for years and he is tight with the owner.
Petty shit. Becoming a staple of the UFC.
Also, so much for "no hard feelings with Dan" | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:29 pm | |
| I really doubt that is the reason.
They banned One More Round and guess what? Hughes, KenFlo, & Stitch all work for the UFC. They banned Affliction and guess what? GSP, Rampage, and Chuck all stil work for the UFC. There are stiff rules and big prices to sponsor the UFC. We don't know what happened. King is just a UFC hater. | |
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redvexx8 Green Belt
Posts : 690 Join date : 2009-10-01 Location : ATL
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:57 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- I really doubt that is the reason.
I dont. UFC has this your either with us or against us type of attitude. | |
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ohiovol62 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Sakuraba, Fedor, GSP, and Big Nog Posts : 1079 Join date : 2009-09-11 Age : 39 Location : Dayton Ohio
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:44 pm | |
| Wouldn't expect anything less from Dana. This kind of childish behavior will come back to bite Dana in the ass. It's not good business to burn bridges at the frequency Dana burns them. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:20 pm | |
| Banning one of their best and most popular fighters main sponsor? And he is one of their five champions. How low will the UFC stoop? | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:30 pm | |
| Clinch Gear is owned by Dan Henderson, who isn't with the company anymore and likely to sign with its emerging rival. This is childish how? | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:35 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Clinch Gear is owned by Dan Henderson, who isn't with the company anymore and likely to sign with its emerging rival. This is childish how?
Well I would ask: when did it become likely that he signs with SF? And the whole idea of controlling the type of clothing that a fighter wears into the ring is strange. Does any other org in MMA lay down these laws? Does boxing? We always talk about the sponsorship $$$ that fighters get to enhance their othewise meager paydays, yet the UFC is always trying to interfere in those matters. It's pretty gay imo, and this rigity on such matter will only hurt itself in the long run. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:44 pm | |
| Disagree here. While it is unfair to compare MMA and the UFC to sports like Football and the NFL in certain contexts, here we can draw similarities. The NFL has the right to ban any clothes and sponsors they want to, and they do. Brian Urlacker was fined for wearing a vitamin water hat, NFL coaches are required to wear official team gear on the sideline, and even in the 80s Jim MacMahon was fined for wearing an Adidas headband. The NFL doesn't even have as much control over their broadcasts as the UFC does. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:33 pm | |
| the difference between the UFC bans and another sports ban such as the NFL is that the UFC's is selective with their bans. They do not ban all gear, wearing sponsor's clothing into the ring is done by every fighter, during every fight, typically with multiple sponsorships. But the UFC singles out companies merely because they sponsor a high profile non ufc fighter. Can Hendo or Fedor claim ownership with either comp? It's most defineatly petty and childish. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:21 pm | |
| Can Henderson claim ownership...? Did you read my other post? He is clinch gear. It's his label.
Never heard of the other company. But the UFC wouldn't ban them for sponsoring Fedor or any fighter as much as not paying the fee to be a UFC sponsor. Apparently they're some kind of skateboard/surf type company mostly with a few fighters, BJ, Vitor and Fedor. I doubt they wanted to pay the 100K fee the UFC charges to sponsor a fighter since fighting isn't a focus of the brand.
Childish? Naw dude this is grown up people binizz. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:27 pm | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:24 pm | |
| RVCA gone because of Fedor, Clinch Gear gone unless Hendo caves to UFC, childish to think otherwise. That's good business unless those fighters are with UFC. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:28 pm | |
| The statement RVCA is gone because of Fedor is likely an over simplification.
They're probably gone because of not paying the sponsor fee. RVCA have three fighters, two are huge UFC stars and one is Fedor. Has the UFC banned all of Fedor's brands? Affliction and Tapout are on every show in the universe and the UFC hasn't banned them as sponsors(since Affliction as a fight company died)
It's childish to think the UFC would ban a company with longstanding ties to one of their champions for sponsoring another fighter outside the company. Sponsor Fedor = automatic ban? Not quite. A rational way to look at this is that after Fedor signed with RVCA, the UFC probably demanded more from them to maintain their rights a UFC sponsor. RVCA only has three fighters and probably felt paying a ransom to the UFC isn't a big deal.
But it is actually. Where is BJ gonna get his gi-shorts now? That's his trademark. That and one sided asskickings against lightweights. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:50 am | |
| From Hendo's Sherdog interview.
On in the cage Sponshorships with SF and CBS.
"It's pretty much wide open, I can do whatever I want. Im not limited."
With the UFC.
"The UFC is really holding everybody hostage, and really making it difficult for the fighters to supplement their income." | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:58 am | |
| On the clinch gear ban.
"It happened during the negotiation process, we had a deal through the end of the year to pay a cetain amount a month to have the right to sponsor guys, which I think is not all that great for the fighters, they're taking away from some of these fighters who rely on that $$$, but we had a deal in place, and they basically cancelled that deal, and said Dan didn't resign yet so you guys are banned, and all it did was make me chuckle. We were trying to support some of these guys who were mostly fighting on the undercard."
It's iron fisted and petty at the same time. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: UFC bans RVCA and Clinch Gear Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:05 am | |
| Meanwhile
"Sf is so easy to deal with on issue's like that.... They don't try to contol all the fighters, every aspect of them. It's very refreshing" | |
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