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PostSubject: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 3:38 am

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June 21st.

He is on a three fight winning streak. 5-2 since 07. This isn't a terrible fight at all. I like Fedor by KO.
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 8:23 am

Even though I was super disappointed about the thought of Rolles vs Fedor. This is still pretty damn disappointing. It will be close to a 2 year layoff for Rizzo before this fight goes down. Which makes this possibly a step down from even Rolles.
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 9:21 am

Might as well not even fight.
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Meh...
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Farmer1906 wrote:
Might as well not even fight.

This.
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 10:00 am

He was ranked in the top 25 at Matrix and SBnation before he dropped out due to inactivity. Hes been working with Blackhouse and the only reason he didn't destroy Tim last year was an injury. This is about as good a fight as is out there.
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He was ranked in the top 25 at Matrix and SBnation before he dropped out due to inactivity. Hes been working with Blackhouse and the only reason he didn't destroy Tim last year was an injury. This is about as good a fight as is out there.
He is old and hasn't fought in nearly 2 years. The drop in rankings is justified. That's a long layoff for an old man.
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 12:55 pm

Fedor Haters: Fedor is over the hill and is past his prime!

Fedor is set to face Pedro Rizzo.

Fedor Haters: Why is Fedor facing someone who is past is prime and over the hill! Rofl! Lol!

Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 1:36 pm

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Fedor Haters: Fedor is over the hill and is past his prime!

Fedor is set to face Pedro Rizzo.

Fedor Haters: Why is Fedor facing someone who is past is prime and over the hill! Rofl! Lol!

Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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LOL same song and dance for the Fedor nuthuggers trying to justify everything.
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 4:10 pm

Blind hate.
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 4:57 pm

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LOL same song and dance for the Fedor nuthuggers trying to justify everything.

The same thing could be said exactly about the Fedor Haters trying to add a negative spin to everything like yourself.

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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 5:46 pm

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josh200612 wrote:
LOL same song and dance for the Fedor nuthuggers trying to justify everything.

The same thing could be said exactly about the Fedor Haters trying to add a negative spin to everything like yourself.


I consider myself Fedor neutral. He is past his prime and he is fighting no bodies outside of Zuffa now. Even in his prime he mixed in a few cans. He was still the ebst HW on the planet for a long time.
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 5:56 pm

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josh200612 wrote:
LOL same song and dance for the Fedor nuthuggers trying to justify everything.

The same thing could be said exactly about the Fedor Haters trying to add a negative spin to everything like yourself.


I consider myself Fedor neutral. He is past his prime and he is fighting no bodies outside of Zuffa now. Even in his prime he mixed in a few cans. He was still the ebst HW on the planet for a long time.

I am sorry but Pedro Rizzo is not a nobody....he was a legend back in the day. That's like saying Mo Smith or Ken Shamrock are nobodies becasue they are past their prime. Pedro beat Barnett, prime Coleman, prime Severn, prime Ricco, AA, and Monson twice. That's a very, very good resume.
Is Rizzo past his prime? Yes
Is Fedor past his prime? According to you Yes.

So we have a past his prime fighter vs another past his prime...whats the problem?


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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 6:06 pm

And your comment how he mixed in a few cans:

I am sorry to break it to you but every champion during that era fought cans!

Liddell fought Jemery Horn and Vernon White for the title

Big Nog fought Enson Inoue, Bob Sapp, and Sanae Kikuta with the title.

Tito fought Elvis Sinosic and Yuki Kondo for the title.

Rich fought Nate Quarry for the title.

Wand fought every japanese can and his brother
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 6:30 pm

well, i must say..that sucks

but as we know, there arent many options and we don't know the availibility of the better options(Sergei, Duff)...and a few of the better options Fedor has already beat.

I wonder why M-1 won't have any of their younger HW's fight Fedor. They have a few HW in house, that are not well known but are pretty good and likely better than Rizzo at this point. They are scrapping the barrell for familiar names but all the familiar names are over the hills and far away.
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well, i must say..that sucks

but as we know, there arent many options and we don't know the availibility of the better options(Sergei, Duff)...and a few of the better options Fedor has already beat.

I wonder why M-1 won't have any of their younger HW's fight Fedor. They have a few HW in house, that are not well known but are pretty good and likely better than Rizzo at this point. They are scrapping the barrell for familiar names but all the familiar names are over the hills and far away.

Because M-1 is putting all their stock into Guram for the future and right now Fedor would beat him.

When Fedor is actually ready to retire he will fight Guram and lose. Passing the torch in the process.
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 6:54 pm

Both Barnett and Cromier defend Fedor vs Rizzo bout:

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What are you going to do?” Barnett told ESPN.com. “Would you rather see [Emelianenko] not fight at all? At the end of the day, it’s not always up to Fedor. Don’t believe Pedro was the only guy asked.

“So, what’s the other option? How about he just sits around for another six months?”


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“There’s just not that many guys who would be OK,” Cormier said. “If they said, ‘He’s fighting Rolles Gracie,” people would say he [Gracie] got beat by Joey [Beltran] and flushed out of the UFC. If it were Bobby Lashley, they’d say he’s just a pro wrestler who got beat by Chad Griggs.

“It’s always going to be something. The best guys are under the Zuffa umbrella. [Emelianenko] is not -- so he doesn’t have much to choose from.



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Don't have a problem with this fight at all rizzo still has killer leg kiks and fedor can still bang it should b fun
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PostSubject: Re: M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo   M-1 : Fedor to fight Pedro Rizzo EmptyFri Apr 20, 2012 11:22 pm

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LOL same song and dance for the Fedor nuthuggers trying to justify everything.

The same thing could be said exactly about the Fedor Haters trying to add a negative spin to everything like yourself.


I consider myself Fedor neutral. He is past his prime and he is fighting no bodies outside of Zuffa now. Even in his prime he mixed in a few cans. He was still the ebst HW on the planet for a long time.

I am sorry but Pedro Rizzo is not a nobody....he was a legend back in the day. That's like saying Mo Smith or Ken Shamrock are nobodies becasue they are past their prime. Pedro beat Barnett, prime Coleman, prime Severn, prime Ricco, AA, and Monson twice. That's a very, very good resume.
Is Rizzo past his prime? Yes
Is Fedor past his prime? According to you Yes.

So we have a past his prime fighter vs another past his prime...whats the problem?

Rizzo's prime was over 10 years ago. He is from the dark ages of MMA. Beating him means nothing.

Fedor is past his prime, but I don't consider him washed up. He should still be challenging guys in the top 10 IMO, but he's stuck fighting no one worth while. I'd rather see him not fight at all.
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There was a rumor a few months back that Fedor would fight the GP winner...becuase the agreement is that the GP winner will have another fight in Strikeforce..and this was said AFTER UFC took all their HW. I think Showtime(who still works with M-1) wants to put Fedor vs. GP Winner because Fedor has drawn viewers for them and it's a main event fight. I think it's funny that it's Josh and Cormier in particular to stand up for this matchup and keep Fedor's credibility up amongst the haters or people growing weary. Maybe Fedor will fight the winner in Strikeforce..but i doubt Zuffa will let that happen and i doubt the GP winner has another fight even if there is an agreement. They'll probably get cut from Strikeforce for some inexcusable offense and get signed by UFC a week later.
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"A lot of my stories are usually weird stuff from after parties that you really can’t talk about but going to Japan a lot you really learn about a lot of different people. You see Jake Shields over there all the time, you see Gilbert Melendez over there all the time and it’s just a weird situation when you’re in this foreign land with all of these Americans but the most interesting thing was drinking vodka with Fedor. [We] are sitting there in the hotel bar and we’re talking and we’re having a great time and all of a sudden I realize that this fool speaks English. I was like ‘Come on man, you’re really going to pull this?’ It’s not good English or clear English but you can definitely understand it enough to talk to him. He was just like ‘Nah, I don’t like doing it because I don’t feel comfortable on the microphone’ and we were just talking for five minutes in a straight English conversation without a translator. Then he goes ‘You know it's funny’ and I go ‘What’s that?’ and he says ‘The more you drink vodka, the better you think your Russian is.’ That was when I first started realizing how the world works."
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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/5/16/3024054/mma-legend-fedor-emelianenko-may-retire-after-rizzo-bout

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Former Pride champion Fedor Emelianenko speculated openly that his next bout, against Brazilian veteran Pedro Rizzo on June 21 in St. Petersburg, Russia, may be his last. Emelianenko spoke to the press assembled for a press conference yesterday in Russia and told them that the Rizzo fight may be his last.

The Russian news site Rianovosti quoted Fedor as saying, "I think it's time to call it a day. This fight may be my last one."

Emelianenko has fought twice since being cut by Strikeforce, racking up a decision win over Jeff Monson and finishing Satoshi Ishii on New Year's Eve in Japan.

Prior to that Emelianenko lost three straight fights in Strikeforce. First he was submitted by Fabricio Werdum and then TKO'd by Antonio Silva and Dan Henderson. Prior to losing to Werdum, Emelianenko hadn't lost an MMA bout in over a decade.
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It truly is a shame that he never once got to compete in the UFC, butI am hoping that in the future, when M-! Global falls apart, that they can reconcile and he can be involved with the organization.
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