King Mo cut from Strikeforce

OU wrote:

Ludo wrote:

OU wrote:

Ludo wrote:

Like I said before it's a legitimate question to ask if he speaks/reads english seeing as he ticked "nothing" when he was in fact taking and receiving several different medications. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the difference between a lie and ignorance to the language presented to him.

So was the judge extremely high and thinking thinking they were understanding the Japanese that Mo was speaking? I've been there.

No, the judge was determining by fact, rather than accusation, that Mo lied on the medical form.

If the judge wanted to be a condescending asshole about it couldn't they have phrased it "We are speaking English so I know you can understand it." How is asking someone in English, that you have been speaking to in English, if they can speak English determining a fact?

PL: There’s no apologising for falsifying required information on the medical questionnaire. Mr Lawal, my question to you is that you signed this medical questionnaire after it was filled out did you not?

ML: I did, I did.

PL: Can you understand English?

ML: Yes.

PL: Can you read English?

ML: Uh-huh.

PL: Then you knew that by signing it, that the information on this medical questionnaire is supposed to be true and correct, right?

ML: Er, yes.

He's asking if Mo was capable of reading what the already filled out questionnaire had on it. Since Mo comes off totally unapologetic in all this I don't have a problem with someone posing questions this way in order to get the point across. It's still a valid question to someone who deliberately signed a medical form with false information on it. It's just like a contract. Never sign your name to anything without reading it first. Since he signed off on it either he's a liar, or he doesn't understand what was on there. Without hearing him say he understands the language on the form to begin with you can't prove he willfully lied. Intent is the issue.

Ludo wrote:

OU wrote:

Ludo wrote:

OU wrote:

Ludo wrote:

Like I said before it's a legitimate question to ask if he speaks/reads english seeing as he ticked "nothing" when he was in fact taking and receiving several different medications. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the difference between a lie and ignorance to the language presented to him.

So was the judge extremely high and thinking thinking they were understanding the Japanese that Mo was speaking? I've been there.

No, the judge was determining by fact, rather than accusation, that Mo lied on the medical form.

If the judge wanted to be a condescending asshole about it couldn't they have phrased it "We are speaking English so I know you can understand it." How is asking someone in English, that you have been speaking to in English, if they can speak English determining a fact?

PL: There’s no apologising for falsifying required information on the medical questionnaire. Mr Lawal, my question to you is that you signed this medical questionnaire after it was filled out did you not?

ML: I did, I did.

PL: Can you understand English?

ML: Yes.

PL: Can you read English?

ML: Uh-huh.

PL: Then you knew that by signing it, that the information on this medical questionnaire is supposed to be true and correct, right?

ML: Er, yes.

He's asking if Mo was capable of reading what the already filled out questionnaire had on it. Since Mo comes off totally unapologetic in all this I don't have a problem with someone posing questions this way in order to get the point across. It's still a valid question to someone who deliberately signed a medical form with false information on it. It's just like a contract. Never sign your name to anything without reading it first. Since he signed off on it either he's a liar, or he doesn't understand what was on there. Without hearing him say he understands the language on the form to begin with you can't prove he willfully lied. Intent is the issue.

The Nevada commission has had people in the past say they didn't understand English as their defense for wrong paperwork. They added this in to take that away.

Ludo wrote:

OU wrote:

Ludo wrote:

OU wrote:

Ludo wrote:

Like I said before it's a legitimate question to ask if he speaks/reads english seeing as he ticked "nothing" when he was in fact taking and receiving several different medications. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the difference between a lie and ignorance to the language presented to him.

So was the judge extremely high and thinking thinking they were understanding the Japanese that Mo was speaking? I've been there.

No, the judge was determining by fact, rather than accusation, that Mo lied on the medical form.

If the judge wanted to be a condescending asshole about it couldn't they have phrased it "We are speaking English so I know you can understand it." How is asking someone in English, that you have been speaking to in English, if they can speak English determining a fact?

PL: There’s no apologising for falsifying required information on the medical questionnaire. Mr Lawal, my question to you is that you signed this medical questionnaire after it was filled out did you not?

ML: I did, I did.

PL: Can you understand English?

ML: Yes.

PL: Can you read English?

ML: Uh-huh.

PL: Then you knew that by signing it, that the information on this medical questionnaire is supposed to be true and correct, right?

ML: Er, yes.

He's asking if Mo was capable of reading what the already filled out questionnaire had on it. Since Mo comes off totally unapologetic in all this I don't have a problem with someone posing questions this way in order to get the point across. It's still a valid question to someone who deliberately signed a medical form with false information on it. It's just like a contract. Never sign your name to anything without reading it first. Since he signed off on it either he's a liar, or he doesn't understand what was on there. Without hearing him say he understands the language on the form to begin with you can't prove he willfully lied. Intent is the issue.

what he said

I have no problem with the questions and how they were posed by the NSAC. King Mo was stupid and chose stupidity as his reasoning when filling out a government form.

Quote :

"I was out of line for calling the woman the 'B' word and I was wrong for that. I was kind of mad about the comments, I was offended by the comments made towards me and I was out of line. I was too emotional. I apologize for that. With that being said, I still feel that I was offended, but I'm in the wrong for what I said."

Lundvall was a guest on Inside MMA on HDNet to tell her side of the story (transcription via MMA Mania):

Quote :

"I was not upset, and I never considered it to be derogatory. What I was doing was laying the classic or standard foundation for the gentleman to make sure that he understood the form that he was signing, that it was designed to be a truthful statement and that the information he was supposed to put on the form was supposed to be true and correct."

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"From my perspective, I've used that standard line of questioning for each and every athlete that has come before us, when their candor on their pre-fight questionnaire has been an issue. On occasion, we do have fighters that come before us, that have indicated their trainers or maybe someone who was with them at the time or a manager has filled out the form -- that they don't read English, that they don't understand English, which maybe a second or a third language for them. What we try to do is to ensure that, if we're going to be taking that into account, that they do understand what it is that they're signing and that they have read it."

She also said that she did not hear of King Mo apologizing for the incident:

Quote :

"Well, number one: Mr. Lawal has not contacted me. But, if he did, I would take his call, and I very much would be happy to hear from him. To the extent that you have now informed me of something, I was not aware that he had expressed an apology. I'm thankful that he has, and I wish him the very best and was so happy also to learn in that you just reported that the staph infection in his knee has cleared up."