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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 4:13 pm

Duffee needs to find a home in an org where he can train with AKA and take on guys he should be fighting. Being KO fodder for top level HWs isn't going to make him better. Fedor puts him to sleep hard and then we've got a guy who will have been KO'd in 3 straight fights. That will certainly play with his psyche. He definitely needs to fight more composed than he did against Overeem here
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 4:19 pm

josh200612 wrote:
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I don't think any rational person can claim Fedor "is not a man".

He's not a man when it comes to M-1 he's their little whipping boy.
They make him millions. They aren't exactly giving him the Don King treatment and bleeding him dry.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 4:21 pm

OU wrote:
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I don't think any rational person can claim Fedor "is not a man".

He's not a man when it comes to M-1 he's their little whipping boy.
They make him millions. They aren't exactly giving him the Don King treatment and bleeding him dry.

They are still making him look like a fool with these fights, he is better than this.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 4:22 pm

Fedor vs the winner of Kongo and Hunt is my dream
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 4:37 pm

Outside of Sergei it's the best matchup possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 4:38 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:
Fedor vs the winner of Kongo and Hunt is my dream
I'd prefer Fedor vs Murrr or Lesnar. Domination.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 4:39 pm

OU wrote:
bobbitt15 wrote:
Fedor vs the winner of Kongo and Hunt is my dream
I'd prefer Fedor vs Murrr or Lesnar. Domination.

LOL! Yeah.....
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 4:39 pm

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Outside of Sergei it's the best matchup possible.
I think you are forgetting about Hershel Walker and Kimbo Slice, but that's OK.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 4:39 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:
Fedor vs the winner of Kongo and Hunt is my dream
You really want to sees Fedor vs Hunt rematch?
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2012 6:21 pm

Duffee really needs to go back to being a prospect. The guy has the goods but UFC hyping him to the moon boosted his profile to where Ubereem's management and now Fedor's view him as a marketable fight when he really should not be fighting guys of that caliber yet...he'll get knocked out again.

the good news for Duffee is once he goes back to fighting middle of the pack guys like he should at this point in his career...it may come easy..or these can damage him.

Atleast he's probably making a ton of mone right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 5:14 am

I can understand wanting to defend Fedor, and this really is one of the better fights possible, but at the same time the flack from the anti Fedor camp is expected with this kind of shit. I mean, really, Todd Duffee?
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 10:29 am

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I can understand wanting to defend Fedor, and this really is one of the better fights possible, but at the same time the flack from the anti Fedor camp is expected with this kind of shit. I mean, really, Todd Duffee?
Going with the trend of this thread, what better options would you suggest?
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 10:42 am

Kingsown makes a good point, Duffee was being hyped, but he asked to be fast tracked after KOing a guy in 7 seconds and they did. And even Wolf is questioning this. But what is worse is claiming Fedor is still top 10 prospect? Really? Did you see those three fights when he fought 2 top ten prospects in his division subbed and TKO? Then to put an exclamation point on his career he got KTFO by a LHW in the 1st round. He is now fighting has beens and wannabes, yet some of you defend this as reasonable because? Oh, he doesn't want to play by the UFC rules. Well they got everything you want, but you are mad at them because they didn't want to co-promote. Enjoy his retirement tour kids and in a few years, when he has hung up his spurs and M-1 is on the same level as the Bodog Championships, don't say I didn't warn you.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 11:56 am

Should be fun for about 20 seconds.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 2:36 pm

not a guy on a two fight losing streak. There are plenty of ranked guys in the top 50 on fight matrix. M1 has a HW champion. also some LHWs out there. BEs prospect watch. Duffee does kind of have a name. This fight still sucks ass.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 2:42 pm

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not a guy on a two fight losing streak. There are plenty of ranked guys in the top 50 on fight matrix. M1 has a HW champion. also some LHWs out there. BEs prospect watch. Duffee does kind of have a name. This fight still sucks ass.
Well if you really start to look at it, it's hard to find better options. You can't even name M-1 Champion, so how can you call him a worthy opponent? What LHW out there would be a better matchup? Fact remains Duffee has fought on the big stage, he has knock out power, strong as an ox and is much larger then Fedor. I asked you to provide better matchups, you didn't list a single name. Connect a name to those thoughts, it gets a little more challenging when you do that.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 3:25 pm

I'd pick Duffee to beat plenty of guys on Fight Matrix's non UFC top 50. That site is a list of names in the ballpark area of where they should be ranked. Nothing more.



So how many of these guys do you think beat Duffee? These are the HWs, not with Bellator or Zuffa, fight matrix ranks higher than Duffee.


 Eddie Sanchez - Maybe
 Tony Lopez - No
 Brett Rogers - Maybe
 Peter Graham - No
 Andrei Arlovski - Maybe
 Damian Grabowski - Maybe probably
 Tim Sylvia - No
  Shamil Abdurahimov - Probably not
 Jeff Monson - Probably not
 Magomed Malikov - Probably not
 Mike Whitehead - No
 Tim Hague - No
 Tyler East - No
 Satoshi Ishii - No
 Guram Gugenishvili - Maybe Probably 
 Bobby Brents - No
 Dion Staring - No
 Blagoi Ivanov - Maybe Probably 
 Jermaine Van Rooy - No
 Michal Kita - No
 Carmelo Marrero - No 
 Chris Barnett - No
 Bobby Lashley - No
 Kenny Garner - Probably not
 Levan Razmadze - No
 Maro Perak - No
Ben Reiter - No
 Mike Ciesnolevicz - No 
 Joe McCall - No
 Magomed Abdurahimov - No 
 Alexei Kudin - No
 John Brown - No
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 3:28 pm

This is just sad for Fedor's career, and the sport of MMA as a whole really. Not a single legit fight for Fedor outside of Zuffa besides that oppressive fat blog in Bellator. I donno emperor, call it a fuckin day or sign with Zuffa. I just can't get that excited about this. I know there are no other options, but really?
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 3:30 pm

Or in other words, these dudes are in my discussion. Would the beat Duffee? Maybe maybe not, but are they also any better a matchup for Fedor?

Eddie Sanchez - Maybe
Brett Rogers - Maybe - Seen it
Andrei Arlovski - Maybe - Seen it
Damian Grabowski - Maybe probably
Shamil Abdurahimov - Probably not
Jeff Monson - Probably not - Seen it
Magomed Malikov - Probably not
Guram Gugenishvili - Maybe Probably
Blagoi Ivanov - Maybe Probably
Kenny Garner - Probably not
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 3:30 pm

I see your point OU, there really isn't anyone available who presents a challenge, who isn't in the UFC. So why not retire? This is turning into the old days when fighters would come into towns and take on the local tough guy. I mean he can make money elsewhere right? He is co-owner of a large MMA promotional company, isn't he?
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
This is just sad for Fedor's career, and the sport of MMA as a whole really. Not a single legit fight for Fedor outside of Zuffa besides that oppressive fat blog in Bellator. I donno emperor, call it a fuckin day or sign with Zuffa. I just can't get that excited about this. I know there are no other options, but really?

That is what your bookmarked UFC.com wants you to believe. Plenty of UFC HW's would get washed out by some of those listed, Duffee included.
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Wolfgangsta wrote:
This is just sad for Fedor's career, and the sport of MMA as a whole really. Not a single legit fight for Fedor outside of Zuffa besides that oppressive fat blog in Bellator. I donno emperor, call it a fuckin day or sign with Zuffa. I just can't get that excited about this. I know there are no other options, but really?
So you say he either plays the Zuffa game or he needs to call it quits? I think Fedor has earned the right to not fold to Zuffa's demands and continue to fight until he no longer has the passion to do so. Bellator is doing a "super fight" with Aoki and Alvarez. Why not Polar Bear vs Fedor eventually? It's possible. What about Sergei? Eventually the timing could be right for that fight too.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June   Fedor vs Todd Duffee for June - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2012 3:33 pm

I don't even know if Duffee would or wouldn't beat those guys. We've barely seen him fight. The only cool thing about this dude's entire career is the clown noise made at the end of that lookoutawhale video he was in. That's it.
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Earned the right? He has take millions of Pride fanboys on a circus tour of PPVs and each time he got paid big money and each time you got your practically guaranteed victory. When he finally does show up with an organization who isn't a 1 or 2 off PPV show, he goes 1-3. He earned the right to go off and do the freakshow circuit, he has used up that currency, don't you think? I say Wolf is right get in the game or get the fuck out! Because at this point, it is reaching epic loser proportions, for the former king of MMA.
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