Overeem signs with Imperial Athletics

http://www.mmamania.com/2012/2/13/2795848/ufc-146-alistair-overeem-junior-dos-santos-authentic-sports-management

Blackzilians?

Rashad Evans constantly signing the fighters known for excessive kickin it or questions about ethics or work ethic. The blackzillions got michael johnson, melvin, meat, and overeem, AJ and a set of ATT guys...another camp that was known for positive tests, missing weight, accusations of too much partying and losses in all thier biggest fights.

Not feelin this camp. Too many headcases. Too many issues. Like the Bangals looker room circa 2010. This camp is a reason to pick against both Shad and Reem.

So Cigano by submission then.

Big dude for Rashad to train with for Bones, I'm not sold on Van Arsdale and I do think it will take some time for others there to adopt the work ethic it will take to be great, some of them will and some of them just don't have the mental capacity ala Melvin to figure it out.

Ludo wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Rashad Evans constantly signing the fighters known for excessive kickin it or questions about ethics or work ethic. The blackzillions got michael johnson, melvin, meat, and overeem, AJ and a set of ATT guys...another camp that was known for positive tests, missing weight, accusations of too much partying and losses in all thier biggest fights.

Not feelin this camp. Too many headcases. Too many issues. Like the Bangals looker room circa 2010. This camp is a reason to pick against both Shad and Reem.

Why? Imperials roster is loaded with guys who are known for issues, arrests, popped tests, fucked up weight cuts. its a camp of mma refugees from fallouts with other camps and black sheep. Imperial started as a splinter of ATT by Marcus Arelio, JZ, Jorge Santiago and Bigfoot last year. Jake Shields, Melvin, and AJ have also recently trained there. Nearly all of these fighters look worse than ever in their recent fights. The ONLY fighter who looks better since moving there is micheal johnson who was very rough around the edges and green. And he still almost lost to Roller after tooling his ass in round 1. Bigfoot OUTBOXED both AA and Fedor, but after a few months is being blasted by olympic wrestlers. Im not feelin their striking performances at all or their boxing coaches(which are?). Overeem needs to get the fuck up out of there if hes fighting JDS. Arsedale and Evans could help him if he was facing Cain or another technical wrestler but this is a bad fit.

This camp immediately dethrones ATT as worst major camp in MMA.

yeah cause Daniel Cormier hasn't spent his entire life winning at the highest level. He hasn't proven to be a totally athletic specimen or anything. Anthony Johnson missing weight, as though he doesn't have a history of that before, is now a reason to discredit the camp rather than a perpetual fat ass. Jake Shields obviously looked like shit against Ellenberger in the 50 seconds that fight lasted because of Imperial and not that his father died like 10 days before the fight.

I can't even take you seriously anymore. It's like your trolling 100% of the time.

Cormier looked phenomenal and trains with a better set of coaches, but suddenly his hand speed and timing is superior to Fedor and AA? Silvas timing was off and he was totally unprepared for Cormiers improved game. Sure no one could have expected that from Cormier but Silva looked like ass regardless. Santiago sucks again suddenly too. AJ moved up in weight and still missed by 20 pounds, if he was in a real camp no fuckin way would that happen. Trainers know your weight, follow your progress. No fickin way is Jackson or Nog or Mendez let they damn fighters walk in that overweight. Take a guy who cant make weight, put him in a dogshit camp, no wonder he missed worst than ever, even though he moved up. Melvin again being accused of not training hard or being serious, Michael Johnson still gassing out 7 minutes into 155lbs bouts.


Ludo be real. When you put a bunch of fighters known for fucking off together and let them run without the focus and discipline of a real camp, this is what happens. Blackzillions is a funhouse where its ok to skip sparring, jitz or conditioning class if "something comes up", no body hastles you for your diet and understands that young fighters have a right to snort blow off strippers at 4am even if you have signed fight in a month or too.

Because some of these losses have other factors at play does not mean we can ignore the complete collective failure since the inception of this group of notorious MMA miscreants and cast offs.

It kind of feels like the camp has become nothing more than Evans personal practice squad. Rashad Evans is a fighter I respected as a professional, so seeing him crown himself king of the morons has been a shock.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Cormier looked phenomenal and trains with a better set of coaches, but suddenly his hand speed and timing is superior to Fedor and AA? Silvas timing was off and he was totally unprepared for Cormiers improved game. Sure no one could have expected that from Cormier but Silva looked like ass regardless. Santiago sucks again suddenly too. AJ moved up in weight and still missed by 20 pounds, if he was in a real camp no fuckin way would that happen. Trainers know your weight, follow your progress. No fickin way is Jackson or Nog or Mendez let they damn fighters walk in that overweight. Take a guy who cant make weight, put him in a dogshit camp, no wonder he missed worst than ever, even though he moved up. Melvin again being accused of not training hard or being serious, Michael Johnson still gassing out 7 minutes into 155lbs bouts.


Ludo be real. When you put a bunch of fighters known for fucking off together and let them run without the focus and discipline of a real camp, this is what happens. Blackzillions is a funhouse where its ok to skip sparring, jitz or conditioning class if "something comes up", no body hastles you for your diet and understands that young fighters have a right to snort blow off strippers at 4am even if you have signed fight in a month or too.

Because some of these losses have other factors at play does not mean we can ignore the complete collective failure since the inception of this group of notorious MMA miscreants and cast offs.

It kind of feels like the camp has become nothing more than Evans personal practice squad. Rashad Evans is a fighter I respected as a professional, so seeing him crown himself king of the morons has been a shock.

And you know this how? You train there? Of course you don't. Way to randomly speculate to try to make your point.

Oh come off it. The fights speak for themselves. They only fighter with a winning record since the camp opened is Rashad. Every fighter out that camp looks slower and has shown shitty conditioning. The guys from this camp dont just lose, they get blown out the cage. And their wins arent pretty either. The only impressive win from the entire camp is Shad pasting a short notice Tito.

Bigfoots manager said the camp "isn't what he needs" and would rather Bigfoot train with Team Nog, which is where he is now I believe. Anyway from what I now understand, Overeem is basically being paid to bring his entire operation there. He needed a building for his team and apparently imperial is paying them to train there. its not the same as him joining as a regular camp member.

The criticisms of this gym and ATT before it are hardly state secrets yo.

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